Razor18 Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 Hi Badger, some small things just FYI: At least on Mission 5(?) (wondering if on others too) mission is declared "completed" as soon as you touch the deck, even if you bolter and have to go around. Case III departures do not have any clearing turn (as shown on the kneeboard graphic), just climb straight ahead (on BRC), crossing 5 NM at or above 1500 feet. On Case I departures, messages triggered by crossing 7 NM come way too late, sometimes even beyond 8 NM. Just a feedback... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger633 Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 (edited) HI @Razor18 Thanks for the feed back, always welcome. Mission 5 has a series of things it looks for to trigger a success, just checked, one of them is a Fords speed needs to be below 40 knots. So did you only just get off again as you must have dropped below 40 knots or there is a DCS bug.? The Case 3 departure diagrams are taken straight from the DCS supercarrier instructions, page 26. Best let them know. The 7NM is a difficult one to get exact. The reason is the voice is triggered by going outside a moving zone which is set about the Carrier. So as you fly out to what was the 7Nm point, the carrier is still following you and so is the 7Nm boundary but WP 1 is not. You do hit the zone boundary due to the massive speed differences but the exact distance from WP 1 and the Carrier will depend on your time taken to start up and the speed you fly the first leg at so darn nearly impossible to get it spot on unfortunately. Edited August 20 by Badger633 F/A-18C Campaigns : The Serpent’s Head / The Serpent’s Head 2 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- I9 9900K @ 5.0Ghz / Gigabyte 2080ti water force extreme / 32 Gb RAM Corsair Dominator Platinum 3600 / 2Tb Samsung 970 Evoplus NVMe M.2 / Thrustmaster Warthog Hotas / Thrustmaster Pedals / Valve Index. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razor18 Posted August 20 Author Share Posted August 20 (edited) No, I boltered and went around. No way I ever dropped below 40 KTS, I wouldn't have been able to take off again I guess... ED probably knows their Case III departure picture to be wrong, as in their text above the pic in the SC Guide, they also write: "Following the launch, climb straight ahead at 300 KIAS, crossing 5 nautical miles from the carrier at 1500 feet AGL or above." And in fact if you look at AI Case III launches, they also don't do clearing turns. I understand, but maybe you can set the TACAN distance as a trigger? Other recent F-18 campaigns did the same feature flawlessly, "release" message came exactly at 7 NM TACAN distance. But it's not that big problem after all... Edited August 20 by Razor18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger633 Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 @Razor18 I will check out mission 5. You wouldn't happen to have a track or a Tacview of the flight? The trigger is definitely only if Ford is below 40 so could be a bug. Regarding using the TACAN distance never used this as a trigger before. However that will be exactly the same as using moving zone. If i set the zone at 7Nm radius you will get the trigger when Ford is 7Nm from the Carrier as measured using TACAN but not distance from WP0. Think in mission 5 I set moving zone at 8Nm to allow for start up so you would be approx 7 nm from WP0. In hindsight think i will just set zone to 7NM so at least on the TACAN you would be exactly 7Nm when you get the voice. F/A-18C Campaigns : The Serpent’s Head / The Serpent’s Head 2 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- I9 9900K @ 5.0Ghz / Gigabyte 2080ti water force extreme / 32 Gb RAM Corsair Dominator Platinum 3600 / 2Tb Samsung 970 Evoplus NVMe M.2 / Thrustmaster Warthog Hotas / Thrustmaster Pedals / Valve Index. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razor18 Posted August 20 Author Share Posted August 20 (edited) Sorry, it was M4, TacView attached. I'm not sure I understand: "If i set the zone at 7Nm radius you will get the trigger when Ford is 7Nm from the Carrier as measured using TACAN..." Wouldn't it be exactly the point to set the trigger when you are 7 NM from the Carrier/TACAN, and WP0 should not play any role?... Sorry, I do not know too much about Mission Editing... Tacview-20240819-151945-DCS-SYRIA M4 NIGHT MOVES.zip.acmi Edited August 20 by Razor18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger633 Posted August 20 Share Posted August 20 @Razor18 yes agreed and that's what I'll do . cheers. Will look at Mission 4. F/A-18C Campaigns : The Serpent’s Head / The Serpent’s Head 2 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- I9 9900K @ 5.0Ghz / Gigabyte 2080ti water force extreme / 32 Gb RAM Corsair Dominator Platinum 3600 / 2Tb Samsung 970 Evoplus NVMe M.2 / Thrustmaster Warthog Hotas / Thrustmaster Pedals / Valve Index. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talvid Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 https://youtu.be/k8LXZv337NU?si=o6ef_dikgedolJf6 skip to 18:15 minutes lol VR rig - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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