More Israeli skins for the phantom

[Tomhaitin]

In the IAF there were 4 phantom squadrons, the 119th, the 107th, the 69th, and the 201st. but is the current build of the f-4e we are missing some of these skins and it would really help with emersion if we had all 4 skins and even variants with downed plane markings.

[=475FG= Dawger]

Immersion is the proper word.

Emersion is the process of emerging from water versus being immersed into water. 

 

[Raven (Elysian Angel)]

This looks like something that needs to be addressed no later than the launch day of the official HB campaign

[RevampedGrunt]

Just gotta wait for a paint kit from HB. Maybe then we'll see more than just Israeli skins. If they were to keep on adding liveries officially though, it'd hog up space for those who don't have it. 

[Jacknemo]

I second the motion.  There should have been more Israeli F-4 skins from day one. 

There are way too many Turkey and Egypt skins in my opinion.

[Kurnass1977]

Il 7/9/2024 at 12:26, Tomhaitin ha scritto:

In the IAF there were 4 phantom squadrons, the 119th, the 107th, the 69th, and the 201st. but is the current build of the f-4e we are missing some of these skins and it would really help with emersion if we had all 4 skins and even variants with downed plane markings.

To be correct there were 5 Squadron, the 105th Sq. transitioned from the Sa'ar to the Kurnass after the YKW  ( in March 1975) thanks to the emergency aid delivered planes in the aforomentioned conflict. In reality the bulk of these birds in USAF SEA camouflage ( Karpada in Hebrew for Toad, in light of the darker tones) equipped the 69th Sq.

105 Sq markings will be very attractive ,with the arrow running on the fudelage lenght, especially the white outlined-red one. Also the Squadron had the distincion to claim the last Kurnass kill during Peace for Galilee in 1982 , generating consequently the last Kurnass ace Ben Ami-Peri

 

https://forum.dcs.world/topic/291842-official-f-4e-livery-discussion/page/11/

Edited September 16, 2024 by Kurnass1977

[SgtPappy]

6 hours ago, Kurnass1977 said:

To be correct there were 5 Squadron, the 105th Sq. transitioned from the Sa'ar to the Kurnass after the YKW  ( in March 1975) thanks to the emergency aid delivered planes in the aforomentioned conflict. In reality the bulk of these birds in USAF SEA camouflage ( Karpada in Hebrew for Toad, in light of the darker tones) equiooed thr 69th Sq.

105 Sq markings will be very attractive ,with the arrow running on the fudelage lenght, especially the white outlined-red one. Also the Squadron had the distincion to claim the last Kurnass kill during Peace for Galilee in 1982.

 

https://forum.dcs.world/topic/291842-official-f-4e-livery-discussion/page/11/

 

At some point I hope to make a Karpada and/or Yiftach Spector's slatted F-4E since he flew slatted F-4E's without TISEO, just like what we have now.

[Kurnass1977]

4 ore fa, SgtPappy ha scritto:

At some point I hope to make a Karpada and/or Yiftach Spector's slatted F-4E since he flew slatted F-4E's without TISEO, just like what we have now.

Yeah, will be great. But which Spector plane?

[SgtPappy]

19 hours ago, Kurnass1977 said:

Yeah, will be great. But which Spector plane?

Probably this one, but it depends what I find the most reference material for. If you have some, let me know.

https://www.aviationgraphic.com/aviation-lithographs/2145-f-4e-kurnass-184-iaf-107-tayeset-jp-1735.html

[Kurnass1977]

For a strange twist of event this 's the same plane I build for my IAF collection...http://www.arcforums.com/forums/air/index.php?/topic/271129-kurnass-184-yom-kippur-war1973/&tab=comments#comment-2569871

Spector used different airframe to claim his kills, if interested can research in my refs

[SgtPappy]

5 hours ago, Kurnass1977 said:

For a strange twist of event this 's the same plane I build for my IAF collection...http://www.arcforums.com/forums/air/index.php?/topic/271129-kurnass-184-yom-kippur-war1973/&tab=comments#comment-2569871

Spector used different airframe to claim his kills, if interested can research in my refs

If you don't mind, then yes please! Send me a PM if you want to discuss more. I prefer to have a slatted F-4E that he got some kills in during the YKW. It seems that the one you made (very well done model btw!) has no slats and maybe the art I have of it is incorrect or post-YKW.

[Kurnass1977]

Ok, so I'll search for a YKW slatted bird used by Spector ( or others?) in engament resulting in Kills

For sure Kurnass 184 wasn't a slatted bird, 122 was one (assuming that you are interested in 107 Sq. planes, the Sq. commanded by Spector during yhe YKW)

Will inform you of my research via PM as soon I've sorted out something useful

Edited September 17, 2024 by Kurnass1977

[SgtPappy]

3 hours ago, Kurnass1977 said:

Ok, so I'll search for a YKW slatted bird used by Spector ( or others?) in engament resulting in Kills

For sure Kurnass 184 wasn't a slatted bird, 122 was one (assuming that you are interested in 107 Sq. planes, the Sq. commanded by Spector during yhe YKW)

Will inform you of my research via PM as soon I've sorted out something useful

 

Thank you! No rush though. I'll be doing some research too and forward you what I learn.

Then I'll be away on vacation in October so I'll probably make the livery itself when im back.

[IronMike]

On 9/7/2024 at 11:26 AM, Tomhaitin said:

In the IAF there were 4 phantom squadrons, the 119th, the 107th, the 69th, and the 201st. but is the current build of the f-4e we are missing some of these skins and it would really help with emersion if we had all 4 skins and even variants with downed plane markings.

Apologies for the late reply, they are all in the works. This patch will see the 69th toad livery, and more will follow in time for the campaign, including the older hammer livery.