Mouse Polling Rate

[paul2437]

IN VR when i move the mouse the frame rate drops rapidly if I don't move it I have a constant framerate is this a known problem. I adjusted the polling rate to below 500 and it works for a while until I leave the game. When I restart DCS back to square one. Using Pimax Crystal Sim at 72hz

[silverdevil]

1 hour ago, paul2437 said:

IN VR when i move the mouse the frame rate drops rapidly if I don't move it I have a constant framerate is this a known problem. I adjusted the polling rate to below 500 and it works for a while until I leave the game. When I restart DCS back to square one. Using Pimax Crystal Sim at 72hz

i knew the mouse polling was a solution for some users. me included in 2D. this is the first time i have heard that the fix did not stick after re-entering DCS.

is the polling rate the same in the mouse settings? i checked my settings and the polling rate is the same and remains unchanged.

[paul2437]

13 hours ago, silverdevil said:

i knew the mouse polling was a solution for some users. me included in 2D. this is the first time i have heard that the fix did not stick after re-entering DCS.

is the polling rate the same in the mouse settings? i checked my settings and the polling rate is the same and remains unchanged.

I honestly don't know what the issue is I changed my polling rate to 125hz following the windows 11 method. I have had issues with my Pimax Crystal that have now been solved. I don't have any active mouse software that could be a culprit the only mouse settings I have is via windows 11 as below.

The only new addition to my rig is the Thrustmaster AVA base but I don't think that's an issue.

[silverdevil]

2 hours ago, paul2437 said:

I honestly don't know what the issue is I changed my polling rate to 125hz following the windows 11 method. I have had issues with my Pimax Crystal that have now been solved. I don't have any active mouse software that could be a culprit the only mouse settings I have is via windows 11 as below.

The only new addition to my rig is the Thrustmaster AVA base but I don't think that's an issue.

i am just wondering. does the mouse you have been using supposed to have software? like logitech or the like? it could be that you need to install the software. i am aware of issues created when manufacturer "drivers" are not used.

[paul2437]

Its a logitech G402 wired version I've had for years using default windows driver I will check logitech website.

I think GHUB will cause more problems by all accounts very buggy.

Edited September 24, 2024 by paul2437

[TKhaos]

40 minutes ago, paul2437 said:

Its a logitech G402 wired version I've had for years using default windows driver I will check logitech website.

I think GHUB will cause more problems by all accounts very buggy.

 

I use the Logitech G502 Lightspeed wireless mouse, C920 webcam and G733 wireless headphones on one of my systems and use GHUB for all of them. I've never had a single issue with GHUB since it was launched, the previous Logitech Gaming Software it replaced could be a bit hit and miss at times.

[silverdevil]

13 hours ago, paul2437 said:

I think GHUB will cause more problems by all accounts very buggy.

i personally do not have any issues. i have two mice, keyboard, and head phones.

12 hours ago, TKhaos said:

I use the Logitech G502 Lightspeed wireless mouse, C920 webcam and G733 wireless headphones on one of my systems and use GHUB for all of them. I've never had a single issue with GHUB since it was launched, the previous Logitech Gaming Software it replaced could be a bit hit and miss at times.

agreed.

@paul2437 you can try and if it is causing issues, then get rid of it. how you are now doing seems to be buggy anyway so what is there to lose?

[paul2437]

9 hours ago, silverdevil said:

i personally do not have any issues. i have two mice, keyboard, and head phones.

agreed.

@paul2437 you can try and if it is causing issues, then get rid of it. how you are now doing seems to be buggy anyway so what is there to lose?

Your Right give it a go later.

[paul2437]

Ghub Installed seems to work ran DCS for an hour or so in VR no mouse issues

[silverdevil]

19 hours ago, paul2437 said:

Ghub Installed seems to work ran DCS for an hour or so in VR no mouse issues

good to hear. when you are comfortable your problem is fixed, mark the topic solved. it will help others searching for a fix.

[paul2437]

On 9/26/2024 at 10:19 AM, silverdevil said:

good to hear. when you are comfortable your problem is fixed, mark the topic solved. it will help others searching for a fix.

Sorry to say back to square one. What ever polling rate I apply via Ghub its as it was I had about a day with no glitches its got to be something else I am missing.

Update only happens in DCS other flight sims are fine.

Edited September 28, 2024 by paul2437

[BeerNfrites]

I had issues getting my polling rate to stick in ghub.

IIRC the way I solved it was to create a profile and then save that profile to the local memory of the mouse. It was an absolute pain but did eventually manage to get it to stick.

I would check, but I vowed to never go near the software again once I got it sorted. I tested using a browser based mouse polling test.

[paul2437]

19 hours ago, BeerNfrites said:

I had issues getting my polling rate to stick in ghub.

IIRC the way I solved it was to create a profile and then save that profile to the local memory of the mouse. It was an absolute pain but did eventually manage to get it to stick.

I would check, but I vowed to never go near the software again once I got it sorted. I tested using a browser based mouse polling test.

I have no  idea how to do that 68 years old.

[silverdevil]

7 hours ago, paul2437 said:

I have no  idea how to do that 68 years old.

the mouse polling issue is noted in the changelog for patch released 9/30 as fixed.

[paul2437]

11 hours ago, silverdevil said:

the mouse polling issue is noted in the changelog for patch released 9/30 as fixed.

Yes seen that set my mouse back to default settings ran DCS mouse movement no glitches in VR [as yet] see how it goes. 

[zero2005]

On 10/1/2024 at 1:27 PM, silverdevil said:

the mouse polling issue is noted in the changelog for patch released 9/30 as fixed.

Newest patch actually broke it for me... Logitech GPro Superlight... Haven't had this issue for a long while, but now its back for me...

its random though, usually on first launch it causes the lag with movement, but if I select an option that force restarts DCS (ie full screen on/off or Vsync on/off) sometimes it makes it go away?

[silverdevil]

On 10/5/2024 at 7:48 PM, zero2005 said:

Newest patch actually broke it for me... Logitech GPro Superlight... Haven't had this issue for a long while, but now its back for me...

its random though, usually on first launch it causes the lag with movement, but if I select an option that force restarts DCS (ie full screen on/off or Vsync on/off) sometimes it makes it go away?

Very odd. So apparently ED did a change that they thought fixed at least the DCS causes. Maybe there is another issue like mission, modules being used, conditions in the mission, host pc system....

[Red Dog]

I'm not a VR user but I do have mouse related issue in DCS as well. I think I found the solution. Might be interesting to you guys

 

The issue I have is that my mouse cursor is erratic when I am in the UI of DCS. It doesn't happen all the time, just sometimes for no particular reason.
When it happens the mouse cursor slighly oscillates and drift for a very long time before stopping (withou me moving the mouse)
When the mouse cursor stops drifting, it's not where I placed and I have to move the mouse  to get the cursor on the UI button I want, and the problem starts again.
While that happens, DCS in the task manager is using a lot of ressources and is red coloured, which is not the case when that particular issue doesn't happen.
I'm sure you can imagine that setting up a mission is a nightmare in such condition. particularily in MP

Anyway, I have been searching issue for this for a long while and only whne I read this post I realised it might be a mouse setting.

I have a Razer Basilisk V2 mouse. You can adjust the mouse cursor speed with specific mouse buttons
And yesterday I found out that the issue is only happening when my mouse cursor is too fast. When I decrease my mouse cursor speed with the Razer settings, the problem in DCS disappears.
Slow mouse speed = OK in DCS
Fast mouse speed = NOK in DCS

For records, I do not have such problem in other sims (FS, Xplane, BMS etc it's only in DCS and I run multiscreen in all of them

I haven't found the specific mouse speed threshold yet but you guys indeed might want to decrease the mouse cursor speed to avoid the framerate hits

Hope that helps and hoep that ED looks into that mouse cursor speed issue