ILS and ATC not working / working only sometimes

[Hiob]

Did anyone else notice problems with ILS lately? Or is it just me?

Lately I can't receive any ILS guidance more often than not. Last occurrence in Ramat David. ATC isn't answering either.
I had that problem on different aircraft and different maps.

There's always the possibility I did something wrong of course, but I doubt that I can't do it in any aircraft anymore.

[ex81]

Used ILS yesterday on Caucasus and PG. Worked well (A10c II)

[Hiob]

9 minutes ago, ex81 said:

Used ILS yesterday on Caucasus and PG. Worked well (A10c II)

Exactly the Maps and Aircraft, I didn't try..... 

Thanks for the data point though!

I assumed that it isn't broken in general, for that would have caused more noise probably.

 

My troubles were in the Phantom and C-101, SA and Syria.

Edited September 30, 2024 by Hiob

[razo+r]

1 minute ago, Hiob said:

Exactly the Maps and Aircraft, I didn't try..... 

Thanks for the data point though!

I assumed that it isn't broken in general, for that would have caused more noise, I assume.

 

My troubles were in the Phantom and C-101, SA and Syria.

For communication, always make sure you use the correct radio and the corresponding PTT button. Also, making sure that the ATC belongs to the same coalition as you doesn't hurt.

Then, if you can contact ATC, make sure you use the ILS of the RWY that they tell you or if you have the possibility, force a certain runway to be active by adding some wind, preferably something like 5m/s / 10kts as it seems lower speeds may cause issues / irregularities.

Also keep in mind that some ILS can be bugged (Al Dhafra is an example I believe) and god knows how the extremely limited ATC of DCS is handling airports with more than 1 seperate runway.

[Hiob]

4 minutes ago, razo+r said:

For communication, always make sure you use the correct radio and the corresponding PTT button. Also, making sure that the ATC belongs to the same coalition as you doesn't hurt.

Then, if you can contact ATC, make sure you use the ILS of the RWY that they tell you or if you have the possibility, force a certain runway to be active by adding some wind, preferably something like 5m/s / 10kts as it seems lower speeds may cause issues / irregularities.

Also keep in mind that some ILS can be bugged (Al Dhafra is an example I believe) and god knows how the extremely limited ATC of DCS is handling airports with more than 1 seperate runway.

Thank you for the tips, I will have an eye on that. Even though I never had those problems in the past. I'm using easy comms. (But I had Jester tune in the ATC frequency)

[ex81]

7 hours ago, razo+r said:

For communication, always make sure you use the correct radio and the corresponding PTT button. Also, making sure that the ATC belongs to the same coalition as you doesn't hurt.

Then, if you can contact ATC, make sure you use the ILS of the RWY that they tell you or if you have the possibility, force a certain runway to be active by adding some wind, preferably something like 5m/s / 10kts as it seems lower speeds may cause issues / irregularities.

Also keep in mind that some ILS can be bugged (Al Dhafra is an example I believe) and god knows how the extremely limited ATC of DCS is handling airports with more than 1 seperate runway.

Just had to learn this. And will never forget !

[draconus]

On 9/30/2024 at 1:05 PM, razo+r said:

god knows how the extremely limited ATC of DCS is handling airports with more than 1 seperate runway

It still depends on the wind speed and direction so the ATC will set one or the other runway active, so always contact ATC > Inbound and listen. Some airports are one direction only but ATC will change between the two parallel runways. Nellis is special and you'll always take off 03 and land 21 but the active runway can be either R or L. You can't hear the difference from ATC voice message but someone pointed out that it may be written in the subs when the voice is playing.

[Hiob]

5 minutes ago, draconus said:

It still depends on the wind speed and direction so the ATC will set one or the other runway active, so always contact ATC > Inbound and listen. Some airports are one direction only but ATC will change between the two parallel runways. Nellis is special and you'll always take off 03 and land 21 but the active runway can be either R or L. You can't hear the difference from ATC voice message but someone pointed out that it may be written in the subs when the voice is playing.

That is, if ATC even answers, which was part of my problem.

A general problem is, that turbulances that are barely noticable in the cockpit (the liveliness of the air body in DCS is one of the weakpoints unfortunately), are enough to shut down Airport operations it seems.  (Didn't do proper scientific tests on this, but it's currently my only trail)

[draconus]

29 minutes ago, Hiob said:

That is, if ATC even answers, which was part of my problem.

Let us know the details next time if you can reproduce the issue. I heard there was some MP problem wrt to ATC/AWACS.

I'm pretty sure turbulence has nothing to do with ATC comms.

[Hiob]

11 minutes ago, draconus said:

Let us know the details next time if you can reproduce the issue. I heard there was some MP problem wrt to ATC/AWACS.

I'm pretty sure turbulence has nothing to do with ATC comms.

Yeah, when I find something I can reliable reproduce, I'll post it here.
Problem is that I was up to make long IMC/Nav flights and the issue always is at the end of an hour long flight - so no useful tracks.