shaggy Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 Yeah grow up people. Tomcatz and other modders don´t get paid by making models. they make them in their free time and they do a good jobb. constructive criticism is always good and will make the modders develope their skills. But smashing someone down witha sledge hammer is just dumb. Keep such comments for yourself and get out and socialize with people. You guys clearly don´t know how to behave and I bet your mothers aint proud with you. Yeah I bet my comment sucks balls but this is jsut retarded behaviour over and over again. Tomxcatz! im really looking forward to this one and more mods from you. A personal request is some ground objects, such as buildings and airport stuff. In particular NATO stuff to fill the crimea with some western equipment. This F-4 should also make a good addition to Lock On +1 ;) 2 Intel Core i7-8700 3,20GHz - EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti SC2 - 32Gb Ram - DCS on 500 GB SSD - Windows 10 - Thrusmaster Warthog - Thrustmaster TPR pedals - Track Ir 5 - Samsung Odyssey+ [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] http://www.virtualredarrows.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfsierra2 Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 (edited) I'd say it's really good for trying the first time modeling a Phantom II ! Nice Job, Tomcatz ! Here is the real one with Tom's model for comparison: Edited July 14, 2009 by golfsierra2 kind regards, Raven.... [sigpic]http://www.crc-mindreader.de/CRT/images/Birds2011.gif[/sigpic] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Szelma Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 Hmmmm....... :pilotfly: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valery Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 (edited) Yes. These are my old skins for default models F-4 . Edited July 14, 2009 by Valery Не критикуй! Если можешь, сделай лучше! Главная ошибка любой программы в том, что она вообще была написана. Благодарю за внимание. "pallmall" Valery [sIGPIC]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic3296_3.gif[/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valery Posted July 14, 2009 Share Posted July 14, 2009 2 golfsierra2 2 shaggy Each person have the right for own opinion and for a freedom of speech, even if this opinion is negative. Is not it democracy? The author should study, study and study 1 Не критикуй! Если можешь, сделай лучше! Главная ошибка любой программы в том, что она вообще была написана. Благодарю за внимание. "pallmall" Valery [sIGPIC]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic3296_3.gif[/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMCATZ Posted July 15, 2009 Author Share Posted July 15, 2009 (edited) Oh men...:inv: okay. At first: Thanks for all the support. There are much constructive critic in it and thats very good. Of course I didnt start a "Who build faster-race"- it was a compilation of pics over about weeks and months to build my Phantom. However: It´s a hobby only. So I have to study and study and study...I`ll do it next time. Without my computer, at the beach while flirting with girls... See ya PS: Valery: pretty nice skin and cool website- it looks really fantastic Edited July 15, 2009 by TOMCATZ Born to fly but forced to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS01_WinteR Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 I mean that, model looks good, TOMCATZ do models better and better.Good look with next models. WinteR | Virtual Smokey Bandits | Virtual Czech MiG-15UTI Solo Display Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Szelma Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 Much better :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey45 Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 its best to make the model from one set of blueprints then modify it with referance pics. The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMCATZ Posted July 15, 2009 Author Share Posted July 15, 2009 Yes, basicly right but most blueprints aren´t correctly. It`s pretty hard to find correct blueprints about the right version. My biggest problem is to model without producing bad vertexes. I allways confused how ED designers was able to model jets with some polys only and that all looks so smooth and accurate. 2 Born to fly but forced to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey45 Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 Yes, basicly right but most blueprints aren´t correctly. It`s pretty hard to find correct blueprints about the right version thats why you work off the same set of prints then find the version of plane [or whatever] your doing and edit your model with the referance pics of the same version.. The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfsierra2 Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 Yes. These are my old skins for default models F-4 . So these are only other skins, not 3D models ?! @Szelma: Tomcatz built a new 3D model from scratch, so what about your 'Hmmmm... " ? Yes, compared to the original Lock-On models, there still is room for improvement, but you called Tom's work 'crap' which is - despite you denied it - attacking him instead of pointing out details that Tom should improve. @Valery: Each person have the right for own opinion and for a freedom of speech, even if this opinion is negative. Is not it democracy? The author should study, study and study You are right, and nobody will tell you the opposite here. However, same as with Szelma, some words explaining why you are dissatisfied with Tomcatz' model would have been much, much better than just applauding Szelma's attack by posting :lol::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:+1 You see the difference ? Let's relax and wait for Tomcatz' upgrade. kind regards, Raven.... [sigpic]http://www.crc-mindreader.de/CRT/images/Birds2011.gif[/sigpic] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Szelma Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 Oh my God ! I start spam war :( Golfsierra2 please focus on Tomcatz Phantom, end oftopic OK ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMCATZ Posted July 15, 2009 Author Share Posted July 15, 2009 Well, my point of view is: I have to be prepared all times that some people critizise me hardly. I`ll allways hope that I can learn somethings and talk with some interesting people. Some day in far far future, anyone will build an super fantastic, high quality and benchmarking F-4 Phantom model. Including 20 colour shemes, 200arguments about damages, 100.000polygons and 4LOD models. As freeware, flyable and with her own cockpit- Rear and Front! I wait for it, really! Okay- Sorry- I dreamed. So I haven`t any problems and all can still use the standart Phantom as well. Born to fly but forced to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeroscout Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 hmm, I'm just thinking, maybe if you subsurfed it once (Blender term, idk what it is in 3Ds Max, "surface subdivide" or something?) it will give you morr verticies to work with and you could smooth it out and then combine redundant faces? Just thinking out loud, cause parts seem kinda low poly. Also, a good skin can make a HUGE difference! I think the skin needs a bit of work. Also, maybe you could show us a few renders without any skin (Just the basic model) and maybe we could give some better ideas. Keep working at it Tomcatz! DCS Wishlist: 1) FIX THE DAMN RIVERS!!! 2) Spherical or cylindrical panorama view projection. 3) Enhanced input options (action upon button release, etc). 4) Aircraft flight parameter dump upon exit (stick posn, attitude, rates, accel, control volume, control-surface positions, SAS bias, etc). 5) ADS-33 maneuver courses as static objects. 6) Exposed API or exports of trim position and stick force for custom controllers. 7) Select auto multiple audio devices Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esac_mirmidon Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 Great work mate ¡¡ " You must think in russian.." [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Windows 7 Home Premium-Intel 2500K OC 4.6-SSD Samsung EVO 860- MSI GTX 1080 - 16G RAM - 1920x1080 27´ Hotas Rhino X-55-MFG Crosswind Rudder Pedals -Track IR 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambo Posted July 15, 2009 Share Posted July 15, 2009 (edited) Look what you done Those who make bad critics :doh: Thanks a lot! :badmood: Tomcatz man don't give up because of a few who don't know what their talking about Cheer Up mate:beer: You are making great mods for the comunity and FREEWARE Bitte,arbeit weiter auf dem F-4:pilotfly: Edited July 16, 2009 by Rambo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMCATZ Posted July 16, 2009 Author Share Posted July 16, 2009 Bitte,arbeit weiter auf dem F-4:pilotfly: "Ist okay- Ich bleibe dran" :yes: I believe that it looks much better now. Yes- I allways have many problems with vertex errors and I need much more experience to manage it. And to smooth some groups is an hell work. Hope noone missunderstud my last pics: its the LOAMC-Phantom I posted. Good night Born to fly but forced to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theGozr Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 Well well Again Tomcatz it seems that i will like this one as well :) Your planes make me want to fly formation :) Fly it like you stole it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vrv Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 So do I get napalm on this bad boy or what? :pilotfly:nice work. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] EtherealN: I will promptly perform a sex change and offer my hand in marriage to whomever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS01_WinteR Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 TOMCATZ kann ich betetest machen?Das ist sehr interresant model fur mich. WinteR | Virtual Smokey Bandits | Virtual Czech MiG-15UTI Solo Display Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambo Posted July 16, 2009 Share Posted July 16, 2009 "Ist okay- Ich bleibe dran" :yes: :notworthy::v: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMCATZ Posted July 16, 2009 Author Share Posted July 16, 2009 Yes, here: http://remixshare.com/?file=exjr3ehojc you can test a little bit. Its an BETA only and all I have. :noexpression: Cheers 1 Born to fly but forced to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS01_WinteR Posted July 17, 2009 Share Posted July 17, 2009 Ok i will post you message with bug list and other things WinteR | Virtual Smokey Bandits | Virtual Czech MiG-15UTI Solo Display Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitch Posted July 19, 2009 Share Posted July 19, 2009 I think the Pilots must move a little bit forward and a little bit bigger. Please make the canopy a little bit shining or glossy..... http://www.mitch-janssen.de Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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