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Porco Rosso · June 19, 2025

Wow , can’t wait

SOLIDKREATE · June 20, 2025

Can't wait man! I'm going to blast 'All Along the Watch Tower' by Jimi when I go on my first mission.

Zad Fnark · June 23, 2025

I'm looking forward to moving mud with the Hun all day long.

Absolute classic airframe.

Basco1 · July 21, 2025

I'm really looking forward to the release of this....

SOLIDKREATE · July 21, 2025

Day one buy, I even have $85 in my PayPal saved just for this.

Andrew8604 · January 26

Just watched this video. Outstanding interview! Most encouraging outlook from the Grinnelli Team. I like their thinking and most especially their willingness to communicate in this video and their Project Tracker.

They spoke of possibly getting a next module contract with ED, before the Hun is done, to keep the team engaged; now that they've got experience. I think that next module should be (of course this is just my wish) the F-105D (not G yet), if the technical information they need is available. I think the G will be much more complex with electronic warfare stuff. I think the -105D will be on the level of difficulty approaching that of the F-4E, but single seat. So, no 'Jester' feature needed like the G will need. Tackle the -105D, first, then go to the G, in my opinion. And if they do that, also make the KC-135A AI tanker...the one with the J57 turbojet engines.

And if they want another module to develop in parallel to the F-105... Something with a radar...old analog radar...there are interceptors: F-86D, F-89, F-94, F-101B, F-102A, all relatively simpler designs. But then there's the sales potential of these modules to consider. Possibly only the F-101B or F-102A can sell, and probably not a lot. I'd go for any and all of these, though. The F-86D 'Sabre Dog' especially intrigues me...the F-86 with afterburner! It fired a salvo of mighty-mouse, air-to-air rockets, though...that's it! Looking more forward to about 1970: The A-7E is spoken for by another dev. No word on when...or if they'd also make the USAF version. So, maybe Grinnelli would make the A-7D...but that's another relatively complex, single-seat attack aircraft, with HUD and radar. And then there's the more complex F-106A interceptor.

On the US Navy side of things: Probably a professional-level, full module of the A-4E Skyhawk. The mod is very good, but I suspect it doesn't have a photogrammetrically accurate cockpit and external model. The F-8J Crusader is spoken for by another dev, but will it ever be completed? The F-8E or F-8H might be better choices? Another possibility might be the RA-5C Vigilante ...but can that sell, as a supersonic, photo-recon, carrier jet...and 2-seat complexity? For single-seat simplicity, there's the RF-8A or G photo-recon version of the Crusader that could operate from the 7 Essex-class carriers with angled deck and steam catapults, in the early 1960s thru about 1976...Vietnam era. And I'm totally confused about what's happening with the A-1H Skyraider. They could maybe do the F-6A Skyray or F-3B Demon interceptors/fleet defenders. Again, sales potential is questionable with those.

I think that's about it, for US aircraft. The rest would be in bombers or Korean War & WWII aircraft.

Silver_Dragon · January 26

26 minutes ago, Andrew8604 said:

Just watched this video. Outstanding interview! Most encouraging outlook from the Grinnelli Team. I like their thinking and most especially their willingness to communicate in this video and their Project Tracker.

They spoke of possibly getting a next module contract with ED, before the Hun is done, to keep the team engaged; now that they've got experience. I think that next module should be (of course this is just my wish) the F-105D (not G yet), if the technical information they need is available. I think the G will be much more complex with electronic warfare stuff. I think the -105D will be on the level of difficulty approaching that of the F-4E, but single seat. So, no 'Jester' feature needed like the G will need. Tackle the -105D, first, then go to the G, in my opinion. And if they do that, also make the KC-135A AI tanker...the one with the J57 turbojet engines.

And if they want another module to develop in parallel to the F-105... Something with a radar...old analog radar...there are interceptors: F-86D, F-89, F-94, F-101B, F-102A, all relatively simpler designs. But then there's the sales potential of these modules to consider. Possibly only the F-101B or F-102A can sell, and probably not a lot. I'd go for any and all of these, though. The F-86D 'Sabre Dog' especially intrigues me...the F-86 with afterburner! It fired a salvo of mighty-mouse, air-to-air rockets, though...that's it! Looking more forward to about 1970: The A-7E is spoken for by another dev. No word on when...or if they'd also make the USAF version. So, maybe Grinnelli would make the A-7D...but that's another relatively complex, single-seat attack aircraft, with HUD and radar. And then there's the more complex F-106A interceptor.

On the US Navy side of things: Probably a professional-level, full module of the A-4E Skyhawk. The mod is very good, but I suspect it doesn't have a photogrammetrically accurate cockpit and external model. The F-8J Crusader is spoken for by another dev, but will it ever be completed? The F-8E or F-8H might be better choices? Another possibility might be the RA-5C Vigilante ...but can that sell, as a supersonic, photo-recon, carrier jet...and 2-seat complexity? For single-seat simplicity, there's the RF-8A or G photo-recon version of the Crusader that could operate from the 7 Essex-class carriers with angled deck and steam catapults, in the early 1960s thru about 1976...Vietnam era. And I'm totally confused about what's happening with the A-1H Skyraider. They could maybe do the F-6A Skyray or F-3B Demon interceptors/fleet defenders. Again, sales potential is questionable with those.

I think that's about it, for US aircraft. The rest would be in bombers or Korean War & WWII aircraft.

The F-105G has the problem of its entire EW (Electronic Weapon System) equipment; much of it is currently restricted, and changes would need to be made to the core to implement it somehow, because it's currently a feature that's not present.

Regarding versions of other aircraft being developed by third-party manufacturers, this could lead to a conflict of interest. It's quite possible that neither ED or other third parties are interested in build more versions of own modules (F-86, A-7, F-8), especially since these are ongoing projects. Regarding certain interceptor aircraft like the F-89/F-102/F-106, one could argue for the inclusion of a Western CGI like SAGE or similar, since they weren't pure fighters, and in their design, this would be another point to implement.

The problem with reconnaissance aircraft remains that they are highly specialized, and we still lack usable functionality for them on DCS. We also don't know if there are plans to implement them in the dynamic campaign or how they would be used in missions (there was a "placebo" functionality developed by Heatblur for the SIGINT concept in the AJS-37, but it remained just a side note that never progressed). Currently, all reconnaissance pods are merely decorative.

The A-4 would be possible if someone could form a third-party development team and secure a contract. I believe the CT and A-1 issue will be temporary, and sooner or later, they will regain third-party status and focus on the project again (remember that many third-party teams are not full-time, but rather groups of enthusiasts who combine their jobs with developing modules for DCS).

Edited January 26 by Silver_Dragon

Rudel_chw · January 26

22 minutes ago, Andrew8604 said:

And if they want another module to develop in parallel to the F-105... Something with a radar...old analog radar...there are interceptors: F-86D, F-89, F-94, F-101B, F-102A, all relatively simpler designs.

why so many US aircraft? .. I’d rather have more aircraft from sweden (the lansen or draken), france (the super etendard or the mirage 3), or UK (like a EE Lightning, or the Hawker Hunter) … we already have so much American presence on DCS, foreign aircraft are more intriguing.

Edited January 26 by Rudel_chw

Schmidtfire · January 26

+1 for Lansen or Draken

Ala13_ManOWar · January 27

15 hours ago, Rudel_chw said:

why so many US aircraft? .. I’d rather have more aircraft from sweden (the lansen or draken), france (the super etendard or the mirage 3), or UK (like a EE Lightning, or the Hawker Hunter) … we already have so much American presence on DCS, foreign aircraft are more intriguing.

Hope the Mirage III is finally made by Aerges once the F-104 comes out since apparently they have access to ex-Spanish Air Force aircraft data

But Etendard, Lightning and Hunter would certainly be nice to have either.

Silver_Dragon · January 27

15 hours ago, Rudel_chw said:

why so many US aircraft? .. I’d rather have more aircraft from sweden (the lansen or draken), france (the super etendard or the mirage 3), or UK (like a EE Lightning, or the Hawker Hunter) … we already have so much American presence on DCS, foreign aircraft are more intriguing.

Simply because of the problem of accessing that data. Any American aircraft is easier to manufacture than any European one (let alone a Russian or Chinese aircraft).

And they tend to sell better. Swedish aircraft will most likely come from Heatblur, French aircraft from "Dassault"/Aerges, and if a third-party UK company appears, let's remember the problems of building a Harrier FSR.1 by "other" 3rd party, its restricted radar, especially when they can be picky about safety.

Joe1978 · January 27

I must admit that the Super Etendard, the Mirage III, or a Draken would be great additions, but I wouldn't say no to a F-105 or a more exotic F-106. I think these latter aircraft (F-105 or F-106) would be much more physically accessible for Grinnelli's team, with all the advantages that entails.

As for the A1, CT had until the end of this month to present "something" to the emergency department... Today is the 27th. I suppose we'll see what happens soon.

Edited January 27 by Joe1978
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ThorBrasil · January 27

Is it true that the F-100D doesn't have chaff and flares? If so, its missions must be very specific.

Ala13_ManOWar · January 27

2 hours ago, Joe1978 said:

As for the A1, CT had until the end of this month to present "something" to the emergency department... Today is the 27th. I suppose we'll see what happens soon.

Hope so, I like that prop…

1 hour ago, ThorBrasil said:

Is it true that the F-100D doesn't have chaff and flares? If so, its missions must be very specific.

Apparently they say it is. Keep in mind it was developed before all the fancy missile stuff began to be widespread. Even SAMs weren't a thing at first. It didn't needed them. Until it did need them .

Remember anyway the first SEAD missions weren't using a RWR of fancy anti radiation missiles, they just pointed to the base of the smoke column and dropped iron bombs.

Cab · January 27

1 hour ago, Ala13_ManOWar said:

Remember anyway the first SEAD missions weren't using a RWR of fancy anti radiation missiles, they just pointed to the base of the smoke column and dropped iron bombs.

YGBSM!

Andrew8604 · January 28

My comment was based upon the video posted of the interview with the Grinnelli team. It seemed that they were interested in another Vietnam-era aircraft. The F-100D's premier usage was in the Vietnam War. I'm a little worried the Hun is a bit over-hyped. It doesn't appear to have much more sophisticated avionics than the F-86F: same gunsight and radar, I believe. It will have an an/APR-25 RHAW display (RWR) with strobe lines, as seen and explained in the video, and no alphanumerics. It will also have a navigation computer, which I think will be similar to that of the A-4E Skyhawk. It will have its 4 M39 20mm revolver cannon (like the two in the F-5E), 2.75-inch rockets, dumb bombs, napalm, bomblet dispensers (I think - like those of the A-4E) and AIM-9B or possibly E Sidewinders. It's a Vietnam-era fighter-bomber. When that war ended, it's usage was coming to an end. It's not going to excel in dogfights with MiG-29s... nor probably most of any MiGs. Nonetheless, I'll by purchasing it because of its nostalgia and history...and it 'looks' cool, to me. It's not going to be, "Oh cool, I'm going to mop up on Cold War Germany servers with this." If you get a thrill out of flying the F-86F, you'll probably love the F-100D, I think.

So, Grinnelli spoke of pondering a next module (by no means a done deal, as far as the video interview sounded). Century series was mentioned, F-102 was mentioned, in loose talking, something with a radar was desired. I was just thinking along those lines. The F-86D has a radar, probably on par with that in the F-5E and MiG-19P.

The F-86D is so different from the F-86F as to not be a conflict, that I can see. It was originally going to be the F-95 but changed to F-86D so as to not look on paper like a whole new production to the "funds providers". So, F-86D would go along with the F-89, F-94, F-101B, F-102 and later F-106 as dedicated interceptors working in a ground-controlled radar environment and SAGE. (The Sabre-derivative, US Navy FJ-4 Fury - more of an attack jet - could also be a module significantly different from the related F-86F Sabre.) These interceptors have little capability otherwise and therefore may not be too popular with most DCS fans, I suppose.

The F-105D, single-seat, Thunderchief is what I think would be the next big Vietnam-era aircraft Grinnelli should do. I have no idea if they would do a non-US aircraft module. I'm not against it. I think I saw a Folland Gnat T.1 in the same hangar in Houston, TX as the F-100F is, which Grinnelli had access to. A Gnat would be a good little jet, too.

Joe1978 · January 29

I'm probably wrong, but I've always thought the F100 was already bit obsolete by the time it arrived in Vietnam war.

The Thud would be a very interesting option and very welcome to the community. Of the Century Series, I personally would prefer an F106, but it's true that its operational history is nowhere near that of the F105.

ANGST · January 29

16 minutes ago, Joe1978 said:

I'm probably wrong, but I've always thought the F100 was already bit obsolete by the time it arrived in Vietnam war.

The Thud would be a very interesting option and very welcome to the community. Of the Century Series, I personally would prefer an F106, but it's true that its operational history is nowhere near that of the F105.

Watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e32ltJAdt1I

MiG21bisFishbedL · January 30

On 1/29/2026 at 9:52 AM, Joe1978 said:

I'm probably wrong, but I've always thought the F100 was already bit obsolete by the time it arrived in Vietnam war.

The Thud would be a very interesting option and very welcome to the community. Of the Century Series, I personally would prefer an F106, but it's true that its operational history is nowhere near that of the F105.

You kind of have to ask yourself 'obsolete in what way?'

As the video posted to you lays out (And you should definitely watch it, NAPFATG is a fantastic creator) it definitely came into its own in the ground attack roles it fulfilled. That's really what we see with combat aircraft; they aren't totally obsolete all at once, but they do get reduced responsibilities within doctrine and the battle space as they age. It's why you'll see downright ancient fighters like the MiG-21 soldier on in nations that can actually afford to replace them and are only now doing just that.

In combat, you can do a lot with a fast jet, basically. When it's no longer suitable for the high-stakes of air superiority where every little thing can matter, it'll definitely find a niche in various ground pounding missions.

Joe1978 · January 30

Yes, I've seen it and found it extremely interesting. Thanks for sharing. Actually, when I referred to obsolete, I wasn't thinking about poor performance, just that technology had improved, leaving him behind in certain roles (yes, the MiG 17 was also like that)

Yesterday I ordered "F-100 Super Sabre Units of the Vietnam War" to investigate further.

Jetguy06 · January 31

I remember reading somewhere, somewhen that the F-100 performed the majority of USAF CAS missions in the Vietnam War. Is this true? Am I misremembering? Was the source wrong?

Nate--IRL-- · January 31

1 hour ago, Jetguy06 said:

I remember reading somewhere, somewhen that the F-100 performed the majority of USAF CAS missions in the Vietnam War. Is this true? Am I misremembering? Was the source wrong?

"Buzzard 01 what would you prefer, four bombs on the target, or a dozen bombs around the target?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e32ltJAdt1I

Nate

Jenrick · February 3

F-9 Panther would be an important piece of naval aviation history, and expand our options for the Korean War.

Zone5 · February 4

4 hours ago, Jenrick said:

F-9 Panther would be an important piece of naval aviation history, and expand our options for the Korean War.

Hear hear! The Panther would be an excellent addition to the MiG-15/F-86F/La-9/Corsair Combo, and could even have an add-on variant... the Cougar (or if you want a trainer, the Twogar!) More Grumman Cats!

I'd also really love to see the Lansen and the Draken (especially the Draken!) Those two are legendary, and set the ground work for the Viggen and Grippen.

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