rapid Posted June 19 Posted June 19 (edited) Hi Guys, A Polish company wants to break into the HOTAS market. Think they are looking for backers. The Throttle seems like a niche idea with the longer "Throw" will probably need another desk to lay the Throttle on as it looks HUGE! https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/flight-sim-joystick/wyrix-flight-sim-joysticks?ref=discovery_location&total_hits=701&category_id=270 Edited June 19 by rapid 1 Asus ROG Crosshair Hero VIII , Ryzen 3900X, Nzxt Kraken Z73, Vengence RBG Pro DDR4 3600mhz 32 GB, 2x Corsair MP 600 pcie4 M.2 2 TB , 2x Samsung Qvo SSD 2x TB, RTX 3090 FE, EVGA PSU 800watt, Steelseries Apex Pro. TM WartHog,TM TPR, Track IR, TM 2 x MFD, Asus VG289Q, Virpil Control Panel#2
Aapje Posted June 20 Posted June 20 I see red flags all over the place, from the absurd 'American' marketing full of exaggerations and nonsense everywhere, to the fact that they chose a name that is already taken in the com domain and not registered in the pl or eu domain (showing a lack of due diligence). So only back it if you are fine with losing the money and not ending up with a product. The interesting parts that I see: Using a magnetic connector that is probably non-indexed for the joystick. This means that you can choose any angle to connect it, you don't have a DIN-connector that can break, and you can connect/remove the grip very fast. Moza also uses a connection that doesn't need to be plugged in. However, it is unfortunate that they didn't show it more close up in the video. A rail-based, linear throttle, which doesn't exist yet in the high-end. Using an electric motor for the detents. VKB has promised us a rail-based version of the STECS with electric detents, but that could be years out. That said, I'd prefer to get one from an established brand like VKB over this company. 2
rapid Posted June 20 Author Posted June 20 1 hour ago, Aapje said: I see red flags all over the place, from the absurd 'American' marketing full of exaggerations and nonsense everywhere, to the fact that they chose a name that is already taken in the com domain and not registered in the pl or eu domain (showing a lack of due diligence). So only back it if you are fine with losing the money and not ending up with a product. The interesting parts that I see: Using a magnetic connector that is probably non-indexed for the joystick. This means that you can choose any angle to connect it, you don't have a DIN-connector that can break, and you can connect/remove the grip very fast. Moza also uses a connection that doesn't need to be plugged in. However, it is unfortunate that they didn't show it more close up in the video. A rail-based, linear throttle, which doesn't exist yet in the high-end. Using an electric motor for the detents. VKB has promised us a rail-based version of the STECS with electric detents, but that could be years out. That said, I'd prefer to get one from an established brand like VKB over this company. lol Just putting it out there my good man lol After a write up like that the company may probably fold now. 1 Asus ROG Crosshair Hero VIII , Ryzen 3900X, Nzxt Kraken Z73, Vengence RBG Pro DDR4 3600mhz 32 GB, 2x Corsair MP 600 pcie4 M.2 2 TB , 2x Samsung Qvo SSD 2x TB, RTX 3090 FE, EVGA PSU 800watt, Steelseries Apex Pro. TM WartHog,TM TPR, Track IR, TM 2 x MFD, Asus VG289Q, Virpil Control Panel#2
tekwoj Posted June 22 Posted June 22 For me a small red flag would be calling a mount unique when it's a monstertech with their logo stamped on. If the uniqueness is in hole set up then it's another small red flag. 1
TheBiggerBass Posted June 22 Posted June 22 (edited) Am 19.6.2025 um 19:13 schrieb rapid: Hi Guys, A Polish company wants to break into the HOTAS market. Think they are looking for backers. The Throttle seems like a niche idea with the longer "Throw" will probably need another desk to lay the Throttle on as it looks HUGE! https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/flight-sim-joystick/wyrix-flight-sim-joysticks?ref=discovery_location&total_hits=701&category_id=270 The linear throttle is an interesting concept. However I see some red flags due it's design complexity and size. >500mm is a huge thing on your desk or arm rest. Edited June 22 by TheBiggerBass 1 System: HP Z2 Tower, Win11 24H2, i9-14900K, 64GB RAM, 2TB SSD (M2) + 18TB HDD (Sata), GeForce RTX4070 TI Super 16GB VRAM, Samsung Odyssey 57" curved monitor (main screen) + BenQ 32" UW3270 (secondary screen), VKB Gunfighter Ultimate MK4 + S-TECS Throttle DCS: All terrains, allmost all modules, most user flyable mods - CA, WWII Assets
Aapje Posted June 22 Posted June 22 26 minutes ago, tekwoj said: For me a small red flag would be calling a mount unique when it's a monstertech with their logo stamped on. If the uniqueness is in hole set up then it's another small red flag. I thought that it is just a generic chinesium clamp with their logo. There are a ton of these already on the Internet I doubt that Monstertech would allow rebrandings. That was one of the things I noticed as well.
Nightdare Posted June 24 Posted June 24 On 6/22/2025 at 10:55 AM, TheBiggerBass said: >500mm is a huge thing on your desk or arm rest. If it's FFB that's enough space for actuators It certainly is more for the somewhat more 'dedicated' simpits, I myself made 50cm+ USB button panels 1 Intel I5 13600k / AsRock Z790 Steel Legend / MSI 4080s 16G Gaming X Slim / Kingston Fury DDR5 5600 64Gb / Adata 960 Max / HP Reverb G2 v2 Rhino FFB / Virpil MT50 Mongoost T50 Throttle, T50cm Grip, VFX Grip, ACE Rudder / WinWing Orion2 Navy, UFC&HUD, PTO2, 2x MFD1, PFP7 / Logitech Flight Panel / VKB SEM V / 2x DIY Bodnar Button Panels
rapid Posted June 25 Author Posted June 25 You should post a picture mate. Asus ROG Crosshair Hero VIII , Ryzen 3900X, Nzxt Kraken Z73, Vengence RBG Pro DDR4 3600mhz 32 GB, 2x Corsair MP 600 pcie4 M.2 2 TB , 2x Samsung Qvo SSD 2x TB, RTX 3090 FE, EVGA PSU 800watt, Steelseries Apex Pro. TM WartHog,TM TPR, Track IR, TM 2 x MFD, Asus VG289Q, Virpil Control Panel#2
Dogmanbird Posted June 25 Posted June 25 VKB has promised us a rail-based version of the STECS with electric detents, but that could be years out. we might see this as a dual throttle FFB device with detents in not too distant future 1
Thadiun Okona Posted June 25 Posted June 25 8 hours ago, rapid said: You should post a picture mate. All in all it seems expensive for cam base and grip and throttle that don't have a proper sim to use them in, no other planes besides F35 have this HOTAS so that's a little odd to shell out that much without an F35 even on the horizon 2
rapid Posted June 26 Author Posted June 26 Too much real estate for me. 1 Asus ROG Crosshair Hero VIII , Ryzen 3900X, Nzxt Kraken Z73, Vengence RBG Pro DDR4 3600mhz 32 GB, 2x Corsair MP 600 pcie4 M.2 2 TB , 2x Samsung Qvo SSD 2x TB, RTX 3090 FE, EVGA PSU 800watt, Steelseries Apex Pro. TM WartHog,TM TPR, Track IR, TM 2 x MFD, Asus VG289Q, Virpil Control Panel#2
Dogmanbird Posted June 26 Posted June 26 yeah i agree. For someone faithfully married to the f35, as some are in love with the f16, i could kind of understand the interest in it As much as i'd love another competitor in the market, I think the force feedback products will make this market obsolete 2
rapid Posted July 6 Author Posted July 6 Nice find Aapje, As what has already been pointed out there will be a very small market for this device. But on "HIND" sight it may work well as a Helo Collective! Asus ROG Crosshair Hero VIII , Ryzen 3900X, Nzxt Kraken Z73, Vengence RBG Pro DDR4 3600mhz 32 GB, 2x Corsair MP 600 pcie4 M.2 2 TB , 2x Samsung Qvo SSD 2x TB, RTX 3090 FE, EVGA PSU 800watt, Steelseries Apex Pro. TM WartHog,TM TPR, Track IR, TM 2 x MFD, Asus VG289Q, Virpil Control Panel#2
Nightdare Posted July 6 Posted July 6 On 6/25/2025 at 10:01 AM, Dogmanbird said: VKB has promised us a rail-based version of the STECS with electric detents, but that could be years out. we might see this as a dual throttle FFB device with detents in not too distant future Hell, Star Citizen might even be released prior to VKB releasing their linear throttle 23 hours ago, Aapje said: So indeed an actuator Looked at modding my Orion2 with such things to create auto-throttle functionality I'll admit I'm not their market, but wish them the best Personally, I think offering this 'on-demand' to any fans would be a bit safer than trying to create a mass product with help of crowd funding Not saying it isn't possible, but looking at the current commercial market and its players, it's gonna be tough to get in at high end 1 Intel I5 13600k / AsRock Z790 Steel Legend / MSI 4080s 16G Gaming X Slim / Kingston Fury DDR5 5600 64Gb / Adata 960 Max / HP Reverb G2 v2 Rhino FFB / Virpil MT50 Mongoost T50 Throttle, T50cm Grip, VFX Grip, ACE Rudder / WinWing Orion2 Navy, UFC&HUD, PTO2, 2x MFD1, PFP7 / Logitech Flight Panel / VKB SEM V / 2x DIY Bodnar Button Panels
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