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Guys,

Back from a break and just looking at the F4 again, i note that the GBU10's are no longer available to load onto station 2 and 8 for some reason?

If in any doubt if you review the dash one (5-35 of the Feb79 manual widely available and used as one of your sources no doubt) for the weapons table you will see they can be mounted on all hardpoints except the centre station.

Note station 2 and 8 could also take the GBU11 (an older 3000lb class weapon).

Please can you enter this back in as its quite limiting at present as taking GBU10 means you cannot select wingtanks.  It also limits other loadout capabilities.

Thanks

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Guys,
Back from a break and just looking at the F4 again, i note that the GBU10's are no longer available to load onto station 2 and 8 for some reason?
If in any doubt if you review the dash one (5-35 of the Feb79 manual widely available and used as one of your sources no doubt) for the weapons table you will see they can be mounted on all hardpoints except the centre station.
Note station 2 and 8 could also take the GBU11 (an older 3000lb class weapon).
Please can you enter this back in as its quite limiting at present as taking GBU10 means you cannot select wingtanks.  It also limits other loadout capabilities.
Thanks
The weapon has not been removed from those pylons.

Could you send a screenshot or something to show your issue?
Potentially you are just running into the issue with the list being too long and hence not showing everything because DCS has no scrollbar on it. Cheers
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Posted
7 hours ago, Zabuzard said:

The weapon has not been removed from those pylons.

Could you send a screenshot or something to show your issue?
Potentially you are just running into the issue with the list being too long and hence not showing everything because DCS has no scrollbar on it. Cheers

Are ED ever going to address this issue? I know you guys have told them about it but they are clearly not interested. Perhaps it’s on the list behind all the super carrier work that needs to be done (5 years and counting) …..

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They're still there - the issue is what Zabuzard describes. The list simply has too many entries for them to all be included (at least on my end).

Personally I get around this by using weapons restrictions and removing weapons not in USAF inventory (such as the SAMP Type 25 bombs and the BL775). Unfortunately as these aren't persistent (even optionally so - something I requested here), this has to be done every single time I want to use bombs cut off by the length of the list, which further isn't helped by the fact that the list sometimes has duplicate entries for the same thing on a different station.

The other thing is that historical mode doesn't filter payloads by operator, only by date - that would also alleviate this issue in lieu of a scrollbar (which I also separately requested here).

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Posted
8 hours ago, Zabuzard said:

The weapon has not been removed from those pylons.

Could you send a screenshot or something to show your issue?
Potentially you are just running into the issue with the list being too long and hence not showing everything because DCS has no scrollbar on it. Cheers

Oh good lord - yea so im in VR, pimax crystal original version with eye tracking.  I've also not been able to select in 2D which i will have set to a 1080p (given i only fly in VR but sometimes boot into 2D just to work on the mission editor etc)

So what we are saying they are there but because the list goes to the bottom of the screen that we cannot select , wow that is dumb played DCS since lomac days and never knew this was an issue - @BIGNEWY @NineLine This needs to be looked at, this is a real issue and a massive limitation, especially as the amount of weapons increase.

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Posted (edited)
8 hours ago, Zabuzard said:

The weapon has not been removed from those pylons.

Could you send a screenshot or something to show your issue?
Potentially you are just running into the issue with the list being too long and hence not showing everything because DCS has no scrollbar on it. Cheers

What about having it on a special weapons adapter then it would appear at the top of the list in station 2 and 8 ?  Or having a template (that is selectable no matter what role the aircraft is configured to in the mission editor) that appears in the list so could select a loadout that says has 4 x GBU 10 and a centreline Fuel Tank?  The player could then select and change the outer pylons if they wanted additional fuel tanks etc?

Seems a win possibly?

 

EDIT - OK so i did change my 2D to 1440 and can now see the list - can now select.  That's so dumb though @ ED 

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Posted
17 hours ago, Hawkeye_UK said:

Guys,

Back from a break and just looking at the F4 again, i note that the GBU10's are no longer available to load onto station 2 and 8 for some reason?

If in any doubt if you review the dash one (5-35 of the Feb79 manual widely available and used as one of your sources no doubt) for the weapons table you will see they can be mounted on all hardpoints except the centre station.

Note station 2 and 8 could also take the GBU11 (an older 3000lb class weapon).

Please can you enter this back in as its quite limiting at present as taking GBU10 means you cannot select wingtanks.  It also limits other loadout capabilities.

Thanks

Please attach your dcs log. 

Remove all unofficial mods and run a slow repair and test. thank you 

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Please attach your dcs log. 
Remove all unofficial mods and run a slow repair and test. thank you 
Is that really necessary when @Zabuzard pretty much confirms this to be an issue?

Cheers!

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We need to get past this copy paste response Bignewy - I wouldn't post a message if i had Mod's running or if i'd not already done a repair to test first.  Not everything needs a log or track file.

The issue is not my PC, or mods, or anything else apart from game resolution (i normally fly in VR so dont have monitor setup at 1440 as pointless).

If the weapons table is too long to display in 1080, then you cannot select the weapons on the bottom of the weapons table (aks GBU10, 24,MK84 Air etc)  You can test this yourself on the F4 module with station 2 and 8.

The issue is very much an ED issue, not Heatblur, as Heatblur themselves have indicated in the above response.  DCS needs to have a scrollbar in the weaspons table, as pure and simple as that.

Please submit to the dev team.

 

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Posted
18 minutes ago, BIGNEWY said:

Please attach your dcs log. 

Remove all unofficial mods and run a slow repair and test. thank you 

Dude the issue is the weapon list for stations 2 and 8 is huge and doesn't fit on the screen, a log isn't going to tell you anything and it's definitely not mod related.

These lists were probably never envisioned to be so large but they are now and need a scroll bar.

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I ask for logs as its the only way to look for issues, if it feels like a copy paste response its because I have to ask, and can not take the word of everyone here.

But no worries, if heatblur have reported it all is good, we just have to wait. 

 

 

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Ive just checked with the team a sub menu is being created to allow for the longer list. 
 
Excellent! Thank you!

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Are ED ever going to address this issue? I know you guys have told them about it but they are clearly not interested. Perhaps it’s on the list behind all the super carrier work that needs to be done (5 years and counting) …..
Please do not misinterpret lack of time as lack of interest.

ED is aware of the issue and ofc interested in finding a suitable fix for it.
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Posted
2 hours ago, BIGNEWY said:

Ive just checked with the team a sub menu is being created to allow for the longer list. 

 

Excellent thank you for the quick response.  Will wait for it on the patch notes, as a workaround ive created templates in 4k resolution then they are there int he rearm tab that i can then manipulate, but for newer players or others may not have this ability so great to see this sorted.

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