cannot reproduce RWR Does not Warn of SA-5 Launch

[bonesvf103]

In the last week or so I have experienced that an SA-5 missile has hit me and I never knew it was there because the RWR never gave a missile launch warning.  My RWR was on; I can tell because I can hear the SA-5 spiking me and I can see all the radar indications in the RWR.

Shouldn't there be a launch warning when the SA-5 launches since it is a SARH missile?  I actually thought I was hit by an SA-18 since there was no warning, but the log showed it was definitely an SA-5.

Here is video.  At 3:30 you can hear me being spiked, so I know the RWR was on.  Skip to 17:34, and you can see the moments before I'm hit, there is no warning and at 18:06 in the log you can see it was confirmed an SA-5.

This happened a couple of times before in the last 2 weeks both to me and to another player.

 

v6,

boNes

[bonesvf103]

I have a trackfile to attach but the forums says it's too big to attach

 

v6,

boNes

[razo+r]

22 minutes ago, bonesvf103 said:

I have a trackfile to attach but the forums says it's too big to attach

 

v6,

boNes

Delete some of your previous attachments (go to your profile-> attachments), upload it somewhere else like Dropbox, Mega or whatever, or try to make a smaller track.

[MnMailman]

  Had the same thing happen to me recently but with an sa-11.

[Koty]

While it's probably unintentional, that's more realistic than otherwise.

S-200's tracking radar does not change the emissions in any way when it launches a missile, it's always just a solid CW signal, with subtle changes in polarity as the operator manually ranges you. Word on the street is though that it should give you a solid launch warning when tracked instead.

[MnMailman]

In my case, there was never even an sa-11 indication on the rwr let alone a launch warning.

Edited October 17 by MnMailman

[MA_VMF]

В 17.10.2025 в 10:05, Koty сказал:

Радар слежения С-200 никак не изменяет излучение при запуске ракеты, это всегда просто сплошной сигнал непрерывного излучения, с незначительными изменениями полярности, когда оператор вручную определяет дальность.

это верный ответ. Предупреждение о пуске вы не получите 

[bonesvf103]

Trackfile:

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/z12x4a57ws1ug80wu3cbd/server-20251008-191737.trk?rlkey=4t1d6jstce7g4teg816ri6xkg&st=mq5si8x7&dl=0

v6,

boNes

[bonesvf103]

*bump*

I attached the track file

[MeanJim]

I did a quick test in SP, and I get a launch warning for the SA-5 and SA-11 in both the F/A-18 and F-16.  I wonder if desync in MP can cause you to not get a launch warning.

[bonesvf103]

On 10/24/2025 at 11:32 AM, MeanJim said:

I did a quick test in SP, and I get a launch warning for the SA-5 and SA-11 in both the F/A-18 and F-16.  I wonder if desync in MP can cause you to not get a launch warning.

That's a good idea; I was playing MP at the time.  I should try it in SP and see what happens.

 

v6,

boNes

[BIGNEWY]

I will ask the MP testing team to look out for this, but we have not been able to reproduce currently. 

thank you 

[bonesvf103]

I just flew a mission SP, and had it happen several times.

 

Trackfile is here:

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/18yru98jy6v0ugwfh7kpl/server-20251109-225155.trk?rlkey=71jkrnrz17p182tjddfaoegmt&st=7i8fslz3&dl=0

At least twice an SA-5 hit me and there was no EW warning.

EDIT:  SA-5 was SA-19 (mistyped)

 

v6,

boNes

 

Edited November 13 by bonesvf103

[Wroblowaty]

SA-19 is optically guided, it will not give you RWR launch warning.

[bonesvf103]

4 hours ago, Wroblowaty said:

SA-19 is optically guided, it will not give you RWR launch warning.

I mistyped.  I meant SA-5, not SA-19

v6,

boNes

[BarTzi]

On 11/10/2025 at 8:58 AM, bonesvf103 said:

I just flew a mission SP, and had it happen several times.

 

Trackfile is here:

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/18yru98jy6v0ugwfh7kpl/server-20251109-225155.trk?rlkey=71jkrnrz17p182tjddfaoegmt&st=7i8fslz3&dl=0

At least twice an SA-5 hit me and there was no EW warning.

EDIT:  SA-5 was SA-19 (mistyped)

 

v6,

boNes

 

You should try Caucasus instead of Iraq, so everyone can watch your track and give feedback. 

[bonesvf103]

On 11/16/2025 at 7:48 AM, BarTzi said:

You should try Caucasus instead of Iraq, so everyone can watch your track and give feedback. 

Well, sure but I would have to have an SA-5 there to shoot at me.  Plus I wanted to put the actual track of when it happened live, not one that I orchestrate to happen (by making a Caucasus mission and purposely putting an SA-5 there).

The track file is meant for ED to check out/troubleshoot who of course have Iraq, not really the players.  If the players don't have the Iraq map, then they can watch the video I linked if they want to watch it.

 

v6,

boNes

[Muchocracker]

The devs specifically want tracks to be made on caucasus. 

[BarTzi]

3 hours ago, bonesvf103 said:

Well, sure but I would have to have an SA-5 there to shoot at me.  Plus I wanted to put the actual track of when it happened live, not one that I orchestrate to happen (by making a Caucasus mission and purposely putting an SA-5 there).

The track file is meant for ED to check out/troubleshoot who of course have Iraq, not really the players.  If the players don't have the Iraq map, then they can watch the video I linked if they want to watch it.

 

v6,

boNes

I don't see a problem here that the mission editor can't solve. I also watched your video, and it didn't help me understand what actually hit you, since there's no external view (a tacview track would have been better in that case). You could have been hit by a stray missile. We have no idea. All we know is that your RWR was powered on.

Sure, the track is meant for ED, but the forum has many experienced players who have more hours playing around with the Hornet, and can provide answers very quickly. It does not hurt to provide a track everyone can load.