cannot produce and mssing track file Sabre nose Keeps pitching up

[Captain_beefcake]

Learning the sabre after finishing up the F15c FC,My nose seems to keep pitching up

 

How do I stop it?

[Art-J]

You'll have to be a bit more specific. Does the pitch trim work? If it doesn't, maybe you've got easy/simplified flight mode enabled in DCS options? Trims are inop with that one.

[Captain_beefcake]

On 11/21/2025 at 12:13 PM, Art-J said:

You'll have to be a bit more specific. Does the pitch trim work? If it doesn't, maybe you've got easy/simplified flight mode enabled in DCS options? Trims are inop with that one.

No i don't,I don't have simplified flight mode

I tried trimming and Turning off FFB, but it still feels like it wants to Pitch up.

I checked my Axis controls,there does not seem to be Double Bind at all.

Also Have Forced feedback disabled

 

 

Edited November 23 by Captain_beefcake

[Art-J]

OK, fired up DCS and it seems simplified flight mode doesn't work in full fidelity Sabre and trims are fully functional anyway. 

You mentioned trying out FC3 first. Just to make thing clear - do you own full fidelity Sabre or FC3 one? I believe they use separate bindings - are you setting up correct ones for the airplane you own?

[Captain_beefcake]

52 minutes ago, Art-J said:

OK, fired up DCS and it seems simplified flight mode doesn't work in full fidelity Sabre and trims are fully functional anyway. 

You mentioned trying out FC3 first. Just to make thing clear - do you own full fidelity Sabre or FC3 one? I believe they use separate bindings - are you setting up correct ones for the airplane you own?

I own the Full fidelity Sabre,Not the FC one

[Art-J]

It's quite puzzling then. Record and post a short replay track (air-start to minimize track playback shenanigans) on Caucasus map. We'll see how things looks on your side.

[Captain_beefcake]

12 hours ago, Art-J said:

It's quite puzzling then. Record and post a short replay track (air-start to minimize track playback shenanigans) on Caucasus map. We'll see how things looks on your side.

Ok,this is getting Weird.

 

Somehow Doing air start, Does not lead to Any sort of Nose pitch up issue.

But apparently Ground start (Hunters over the Yalu/Tutorial missions)Somehow Causes the Nose to Pitch up after you Take off?

the Hell is going on?

 

 

Edited Monday at 04:25 AM by Captain_beefcake

[Art-J]

My checks were done in air start missions only. I don't own HoY campaign, but will try any ground start mission and see what's up. With weekend gone it's not going to happen soon, though.

[Art-J]

All right, tried the stock Caucasus cold start training mission + got to the runway and took off. Plane behaves as it should. 

Are you absolutely sure you've got airbrakes fully retracted? Should be easy to tell by the sound alone. They're literally the only thing that can make the Sabre pitch up in flight (apart from messed up trim, of course).

[razo+r]

On 11/24/2025 at 5:23 AM, Captain_beefcake said:

Ok,this is getting Weird.

 

Somehow Doing air start, Does not lead to Any sort of Nose pitch up issue.

But apparently Ground start (Hunters over the Yalu/Tutorial missions)Somehow Causes the Nose to Pitch up after you Take off?

the Hell is going on?

 

 

 

Record a .trk file and upload it here when it happens. There is not enough info provided to pinpoint the issue.

[Captain_beefcake]

On 11/26/2025 at 10:52 PM, Art-J said:

All right, tried the stock Caucasus cold start training mission + got to the runway and took off. Plane behaves as it should. 

Are you absolutely sure you've got airbrakes fully retracted? Should be easy to tell by the sound alone. They're literally the only thing that can make the Sabre pitch up in flight (apart from messed up trim, of course).

Yes i have my airbrakes retracted,You can see that In the Video

On 11/27/2025 at 12:28 AM, razo+r said:

Record a .trk file and upload it here when it happens. There is not enough info provided to pinpoint the issue.

I have a Video of a takeoff in HoY,You can clearly see something is off with the nose.

 

Edited 14 hours ago by Captain_beefcake

[Volator]

Hard to tell from the video. Looks normal from here, I assume that the take-off is a result of your technique. Are you trimming nose down at all? I cannot tell from the video. When your aircraft accelerates, the nose will come up, so you need to trim nose down with the trim hat (did you assign these to your joystick hat?) to remain level. Maybe that is why you did not see any problems with airstart, because there you get a nicely trimmed aircraft at mission start according to set speed.

Coming from the FC F-15, this might be your issue.

Edited 11 hours ago by Volator

[Art-J]

The second video shows you haven't reset hydraulic system (to switch it to "normal") as always required during startup procedure - "alternate" system warning lamp is on all the time. I don't remember if it should/could mess up the pitch trim and control, but that's where I'd start troubleshooting.

[razo+r]

4 hours ago, Captain_beefcake said:

 

I have a Video of a takeoff in HoY,You can clearly see something is off with the nose.

 

The very minimum you can do is open the control indicator when you are recording a video.

But we don't want a video, we want a track, a .trk file. That way we can see much more details, many of which we cannot see in a video.

[Volator]

Also, having watched your video a second time on a bigger screen, the take-off trim light on the main panel is not illuminated, so you haven't trimmed the aircraft properly for take-off. (Trim should not be affected by being on emergency hydraulics).

For take-off, try to maintain the centerline, and you can rotate much earlier, nosewheel should lift at around 110 kts, and the aircraft should lift off at 140kts latest, all depending on weight of course.

Edited 9 hours ago by Volator