Should I learn the Hornet with the radar problems?

[Endline]

The Hornet is the first DCS module I purchased, but I never really learned how to operate it. I'm thinking about starting now, but I understand that there are radar bugs that have yet to get addressed. So, the question is if it's worth the time and the effort? I don't see the point in learning it if the radar can't be operated to a satisfying degree.

[SlipHavoc]

17 minutes ago, Endline said:

The Hornet is the first DCS module I purchased, but I never really learned how to operate it. I'm thinking about starting now, but I understand that there are radar bugs that have yet to get addressed. So, the question is if it's worth the time and the effort? I don't see the point in learning it if the radar can't be operated to a satisfying degree.

In my opinion, yes, it's definitely worth learning, but much depends on what you think a "satisfying degree" is.

[digsig21099]

It's definitely worth it. The radar is fine. Honestly, there's something wrong with all the modules in the game. It's a game. It's worth it. Once you learn the module, you'll be happy. I went to bed and studied it in my head. I thought about it. It's not all clear right away. It has its own algorithm, like in others.

 

[Recluse]

Some good videos out there. This one is really good for Air to Air radar use even though it is a bit old and doesn't cover some of the NEW features (like MSI). Still helpful for basic operation with tips and tricks.

 

and a slightly newer one with a comparison to the F-16 radar if you happen to fly that module

Interestingly the first video highlights use of TWS while the second touts RWS as the better mode.  I prefer TWS, but YMMV and there are definite situations where you might want one vs. the other.

Edited Tuesday at 07:36 PM by Recluse

[Endline]

19 hours ago, SlipHavoc said:

In my opinion, yes, it's definitely worth learning, but much depends on what you think a "satisfying degree" is.

What I mean is that it there isn't a mission breaking bug, like vanishing tracks or inability to lock a target.

[Recluse]

Nope. Nothing mission breaking.  The new MSI integration is a WIP and there are some issues with it, but I wouldn't call any of it mission breaking.

[SlipHavoc]

27 minutes ago, Endline said:

What I mean is that it there isn't a mission breaking bug, like vanishing tracks or inability to lock a target.

It kind of depends on what you mean by "mission breaking" too.  What "breaks" a mission for one player is something that another player might work around, or try again until it works.  Sometimes the radar loses lock.  Sometimes it ends up in an unexpected setting, like the elevation run all the way to the limit.  Those may be bugs sometimes, but sometimes they're just how the radar works.  Improvise, adapt, and overcome.  I personally don't have any problems with the F-18's radar that I haven't been able to deal with, and I really enjoy flying it, it's probably my most-flown fixed wing module.  But only you can say how willing you are to deal with the combination of the realistic features of the radar, and whatever bugs there may or may not be.

[Muchocracker]

It's got some annoying problems you gotta deal with because of incomplete features but it's overall still very learnable and wont change all that much for the rest of time. 

[Fresh]

What annoying problems do you guys have? I'm trying to get a perspective here. Been flying the Hornet for many years now and I'd say 99% of radar stuff works, the 1% I don't notice. Link16 and missile behaviour is another topic, and def. doesn't spoil the game for me.

@Endline embrace your Hornet! Learn about the scan volumes, PRF, jamming, notching, tactics and techniques. Join a MilSim squad and go down the rabbit hole.. it is deep!

[wilbur81]

2 hours ago, Fresh said:

What annoying problems do you guys have? I'm trying to get a perspective here. Been flying the Hornet for many years now and I'd say 99% of radar stuff works, the 1% I don't notice. Link16 and missile behaviour is another topic, and def. doesn't spoil the game for me.

@Endline embrace your Hornet! Learn about the scan volumes, PRF, jamming, notching, tactics and techniques. Join a MilSim squad and go down the rabbit hole.. it is deep!

I think he's talking about the craziness introduced with the new MSI updates that lead to 'jumping' track files, random, un-commanded, and frequent DT1/DT2 switching, target range 'jumping', etc.

 

[Fresh]

Thanks, I'll try to reproduce.. and look at those track files, because aspect, range and PRF can cause some of that..