Duel Core Patch

[Bullit]

Iam sorry if this has been addressed already, but iam new to this, is there a patch to allow duel core usage by Black Shark, without having to mess about with files etc.?

[Frazer]

Like 104 Route adviced you in this thread, get the 1.0.1c patch and you will also have Duel Core support ;)

 

Oh and welcome on the ED forums ^^

[Boulund]

Notice, this is not a flame of your post Frazer =) Just me venting I guess...

All this talk about dual core support is really confusing for everyone. We should make it the norm to call it what it is and nothing else. Dual core support implies (at least in my ears) multithreading (i.e. the game taking advantage and exploiting several cores of one processor, or using several processors in such systems), something this game does not support.

 

Since patch 1.0.1a DCS: Black Shark automatically set affinity to all cores/CPU's. Nothing else. ("Since" here means that version 1.0.1b and 1.0.1c also have this functionality)

Edited January 30, 2010 by Boulund

[159th_Viper]

All this talk about dual core support is really confusing for everyone.....

 

No it is not, as illustrated by the OP's statement and First Reply thereto.

 

Rather than attempting to Split Hairs and adopt the Most Technically Correct explanation which in itself lends itself to the Obvious Confusion that exists, We all Should recognise that not Everyone (Myself Included) is sufficiently Computer-Literate to Understand the distinction Off-Hand/At first Post, or Could even be bothered to allude to the said distinction when the more 'acceptable' phrase, whilst not Technically Correct, does well to Convey the Poster's Intent.

 

It's not all Black and White :)

[Boulund]

No it is not, as illustrated by the OP's statement and First Reply thereto.

 

Rather than attempting to Split Hairs and adopt the Most Technically Correct explanation which in itself lends itself to the Obvious Confusion that exists, We all Should recognise that not Everyone (Myself Included) is sufficiently Computer-Literate to Understand the distinction Off-Hand/At first Post, or Could even be bothered to allude to the said distinction when the more 'acceptable' phrase, whilst not Technically Correct, does well to Convey the Poster's Intent.

 

It's not all Black and White :)

 

I do not fully agree with you actually. It IS (imo) black and white. Either the game is able to utilize all cores or not. My understanding is that Black Shark is not.

The following is my humble observation to this fact: Black Shark has never ever used more than 50% of my CPU. In fact, it realiably stays at 45-50% usage when playing since (I believe) the game is not able to utilize several cores at the same time. That Windows 7 load balances processes (windows background processes and games alike) so that it is dividing the load over all available cores is nothing the game can influence (other than setting affinity to specific cores, thus improved since patch 1.0.1a).

 

This is turning into another debate I guess but this was not my intention. It's just bugging me that everone seems so confused over something that (at least in my view) has a definite answer. :cry:.

I'm not claiming to be a computer expert to such a degree that I know exactly how Windows 7 load balances between cores or understands the inner workings of Black Shark. But I do know some programming, even involving multi-core development/programming of scientific software/algorithms, which to some degree makes me hurt when people are misinformed =/...

 

Though I can agree with you that the confusion I implied in my first post may in this thread be only my own... Dual Core support could in this case actually be interpreted as making sure that the operating system load balances on all available cores... No harm intended =D

If you're interested I think I will be availabe for some friendly fire online tomorrow evening ;)

Edited January 30, 2010 by Boulund

[funkee]

It's being discussed already here: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=49429

btw. "duel" or "dual"? :P

[Frazer]

I would say, whatever dual/duel/affinity/multithreading, fact is that the game runs almost twice as fast with the 1.0.1c patch.

 

That is what the guy wanted to know.......right?

[Feuerfalke]

Either the game is possible to utilize all cores or not. My understanding is that Black Shark is not.

 

This statement is very misleading and taken alone, it's also wrong.

 

 

It takes two components: The program and the OS.

 

With XP, for example, the program may even be multithreading (programmed to spread different threats to different cores), but you may not utilize all cores.

 

With Vista/Win7, however, even a non-multithreaded program benefits largely from multiple cores.

 

 

Long story short: It cannot be black and white, since there are several colors included. ;)

[Boulund]

Not going to turn this into the heated discussion this topic always ends up with but I can agree that I spoke rather clumsy in my last post about utilizing *all* cores. Your post also makes me wonder if you ever read past that sentence?... Still I don't really agree with all of you that this is the gray area you are all making it. But let's end it at that.

 

I agree with Frazer that the OP just wanted to know how to make the game run at it's best. This question has without a doubt been settled and I'm sorry if I offended anyone with my view upon things. Sometimes it's just better to keep my mouth shut and and this thread wouldn't have derailed...:noexpression:

[sage0030]

I would say, whatever dual/duel/affinity/multithreading, fact is that the game runs almost twice as fast with the 1.0.1c patch.

 

That is what the guy wanted to know.......right?

 

 

that is bs game seems to calculate more when you crash in the latest patch, if I install the bare 1.0 that does not happen at all for me, I have a duel core,

[Frazer]

I agree with Frazer that the OP just wanted to know how to make the game run at it's best. This question has without a doubt been settled and I'm sorry if I offended anyone with my view upon things. Sometimes it's just better to keep my mouth shut and and this thread wouldn't have derailed...:noexpression:

I think you didn't offend anyone, everyone is just eager to find out details which is good ofcourse. But sometimes it is better to keep it stupid and simple :D

 

that is bs game seems to calculate more when you crash in the latest patch, if I install the bare 1.0 that does not happen at all for me, I have a duel core,

You mean you have game freezes on crashes, more with the 1.0.1c patch as with 1.0? From what I remember, this happens in both 1.0 and 1.0.1c.

[talisman]

So, if we read between all the "Im more technical than you" crap. This is how i understand it.

 

So, in short - if you have XP then no, and if you have Vista or windows 7, then yes to a certain extent, but not a good as a game made for dual cores.

 

Right?

[GaryIKILLYOU]

@ Talisman: Yep, but I think this thread is the most OT thread I've seen in a while. The original topic was completely ignored after the first two posts.:lol:;)

Edited January 31, 2010 by GaryIKILLYOU

[Frazer]

Bullit is probably thinking.......Where the hell did I end up :huh: :D

[funkee]

I would say, whatever dual/duel/affinity/multithreading, fact is that the game runs almost twice as fast with the 1.0.1c patch.

That is what the guy wanted to know.......right?

 

I can just confirm :P