y2kiah's A-10C cockpit build

[Duckling]

I mlght be wrong but I'm pretty sure that they request a true size reference of either the total of the objects within the drawing (Width x Hight) or of one of the large pieces within it. They can scale it symetrical but lack a reference of how much

 

Haven't checked the contence of the file but if someone that has, can state it, i'd think the cutter should be ok.

(had the same issue on several panels I sent to be cut.)

Edited January 14, 2013 by Duckling

[JCook]

Maybe they just need to zoom in their view. I had no issues with the files.

[Gadroc]

Linden has probably hit it on the head. They imported the DXF in mm instead of in inches which would cause it to be 25.4 times too small. They should just be able to open the DXF and specify inches during import.

[Combat2468]

The dxf is in inch, Maybe they want to have it in mm?

 

If so you can scale the dxf by 25.4 (autocad)

 

 

 

Yep, spot on linden. Thanks for that, should be building come the weekend:)

[JaseGill]

Combat2468,

Where did you find to cut the DXF's for you in the UK?

Im also in the UK and have been looking for the same.

Also, if its not too personal how much did it cost?

Cheers,

JG.

[Combat2468]

Combat2468,

Where did you find to cut the DXF's for you in the UK?

Im also in the UK and have been looking for the same.

Also, if its not too personal how much did it cost?

Cheers,

JG.

 

 

Hey JaseGill,

 

Cheapest quote I got was from these guys www.cutcnc.co.uk, they are based in Uxbridge but can deliver. The price i'm paying is £564.96 all in, but think i got a bit knocked off as it's for an Air Cadet project. That was for 4 sheets of 8x4 Ply, cutting and delivery. I'm not building the nose extension due to space so the cuts were for Left Side Panel, Right Side Panel, Base and Front sides. Was original going to be 5 working days but forgot to put in some of y2kiah's instructions so had a couple days emailing.

 

If you do go with them just let them know the below.

 

The drawings are in imperial measure, and so need to specify inches during import. Also the screen grab which outlines a couple of pieces is for a dado/pocket cut 0.5" deep.

 

The cheapest after these was a place in shefield, £700+ for MDF and £1000+ for Ply.

 

Hope this helps.

Edited January 18, 2013 by Combat2468

[JaseGill]

Thanks Combat,

Bloody hell, Uxbridge is less than 10 miles from my office and only about 25 from home.

Methinks they're worth a visit :)

Thanks, much appreciated. Which plans did you use in the end Y2kiah's ones I'm guessing?

J.

[Combat2468]

Yep, The raw files on post #295 no mods. Will be starting my own build thread the first weekend after i get the parts, should give you an idea of what you'd be buying.

[JaseGill]

Thanks Combat.

I will be watching with interest.

Rgds,

J.

[Warhog]

I've been reading this thread with a growing interest and also a sense of dread as I think I am about to answer a new calling... building my own A10 cockpit sim. Once I start down this road I know there will be no turning back so I am starting to gather my research info on construction techniques etc.

 

I that light I was wondering if any of the individual cockpit instrument panels (ie electrical, VHF, UHF, APU, Fuel etc) have been drawn up in AutoCAD and if so are they available to use? I have a small CNC mill and an extensive AutoCAD background and this would be a real timesaver. If not I will draw them up as I need them but I thought I would ask first before I start, just in case.

 

Thanks and BTW I am amazed at what people are building. All excellent projects I must say.:thumbup:

[Zapper35]

Thanks to a great bunch of folks!

 

Just a quick note of big THANKS to Y2kiah for all his work with the plans and metalnwood for cutting it out on his CNC Router and then being so patient with me as I struggle with 3D in my head to put it all together! :thumbup:

 

Flew basic version of pit for first time yesterday and after 30 years of simming wish I had built a pit years ago, What a great bunch of enthusiast we have in our community. One of the best uses of the 'net there is.

 

Thanks all!

 

Zap

[BubbaMc]

Very impressive design y2kaih!

 

How are your builds going guys? Any updates?

 

Btw there dxf files available for the seat?

[metalnwood]

y2kiah, a question for you when you have the time.

 

I am working on my set of panels for my pit (or your pit :) ) and have a question about the angles for the forward panels on the left and right consoles.

 

Specifically the electrical panel. If I look inside the texture files for the A10 I can see that this panel has its bottom at ~ 2 degrees so the overall panel is not square. This is obviously so that when it's raised on its two angles the left side and bottom will align square with the panels its next to.

 

On your plans the panels are angled 18 degrees on the side and I think it was 17.3 degrees upright for the forward most panels on the incline.

 

With those angles the electrical panel doesnt align well, it probably needs that cut on the bottom of that panel to be closer to 5 degrees.

 

So, thats not a problem but before I go about it I thought I would run it past you to see if there isnt something I may be overlooking. What angle is that panel cut at in your cad files?

 

Thanks!

[metalnwood]

Just to add, i saw some photos of yours for the same panel much earlier in the thread. You do have a larger angle on that panel, looking more like nearly 4 degrees.

 

I will adjust my panel to suit then.

 

Thank!

[Deadman]

Just go 5 degs and you will be fine

[y2kiah]

Just as Deadman said, my panel is at 5 deg. It may be on the high side, but looking at photos of the real panel, it seems pretty close. 2 deg looks like it would be a bit on the low side.

 

Just to add, i saw some photos of yours for the same panel much earlier in the thread. You do have a larger angle on that panel, looking more like nearly 4 degrees.

 

I will adjust my panel to suit then.

 

Thank!

[JCook]

I haven't been checking the A10 build forums in a while...were the CAD files for the front panel ever completed for this design?

[nobrot]

HELP!

 

Have finally taken the plunge and decided to build but come to my first stumbling block. I've sent off the .dxf files to my workshops (thanks y2kiah) with the instructions as posted 4x8 ply etc, and have got this reply "Your drawings have come in really small. We are able to scale them back up but require a reference to scale them up to. So are you able to put a boarder of 2440 x 1220mm around each drawing or give us overall dimensions of a piece for reference?"

Does anybody know what they are asking for. I'm an old school armourer who uses hammers and crowbars, and this computer design thing is beyond me. Can anyone help please.

 

I know this is a bit old, but my CNC guy had the same problem, so he scaled up based on the pilot holes being 1/8", and then to cross check he measured one of the slots that would be used to take 3/4" ply, and the numbers all looked right.

[nobrot]

I haven't been checking the A10 build forums in a while...were the CAD files for the front panel ever completed for this design?

 

Im with you JCook, looking for that front panel cad file y2kiah :) ... and I wonder if there are plans for panel dimensions also?

 

Looking forward to starting my build really soon!

[JCook]

nobrot

 

I think y2kiah has tried explaining the change previously, you can look thru the posts and see if you can figure it out. I've never quite understood the changes as they were explained. I'm more of a visual person I guess.

 

In leiu of the updated file I'd just go ahead and build with the current design, the defect will become apparent when assembling and then you can just make the adjustment to fit.

[metalnwood]

I know this is a bit old, but my CNC guy had the same problem, so he scaled up based on the pilot holes being 1/8", and then to cross check he measured one of the slots that would be used to take 3/4" ply, and the numbers all looked right.

 

 

Dont have him do that as I am not sure that this is correct, although it may be.

 

Any slight difference from the correct size will make the width of the panels unlikely to fit in the console spacing.

 

The plans are in inches, not mm, thats why the size is small, something like 48x96.

 

Have him import as inches and when loaded switch to metric, most software it will be a 30 second task to do this and you will end up with the correct sizes for everything.

[JCook]

metalnwood - I think you're right. I should have read his post better.

 

nobrot you can disregard my suggestion - I was referring to a small edit that was going to be made to the left console drawing to fix an issue with the throttle alignment. As far as I know that edit by y2kiah hasn't been done yet.

[nobrot]

OK Guys thanks, will double-check with the cnc guy, plan is to do the cuts on Wednesday!

[nobrot]

Question about the throttle supports on ytkiah's plans,

 

The link shows two parts highlighted, but I am confused about the lines running parallel to the vertical edges, do they represent additional cuts? how should these two parts look after the cut?

 

 

Thanks,

[metalnwood]

The parallel lines need to have that area pocketed out in cnc terms or in traditional woodwork they would be rabbeted/rebated.