Next DCS (US) Fixed Wing Aircraft Wish List

[Raven68]

Forcing into that market when there are lots of other planes to do is just taking an unnecessary risk.

 

I wouldn't really call it forcing. I think the DCS platform would offer some really nice market potential. The major lacking component is the dynamic campaign which is for another discussion. Also with the AFM capabilities, EDGE coming, and existing fan base wanting something fresh to fly the F-16 in, I believe the rewards over risk are much greater. JMO...

[sobek]

If the risk is too great, the reward doesn't matter. You don't stay in a business by taking risks that are effectively unnecessary.

 

A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

[T_A]

funny people only talk about western planes, you do realize if ED just make western planes then multiplayer would be only FC3 Russian planes vs study sim planes?

 

i would love to see a DCS level Russian / Chinese planes (more advance than the 21 that is)

but i also realize that western planes sell better than the others.

maybe upcoming(sorta) Mirage 2000C will make for some interesting scenarios.

[leafer]

And then there's this.

 

Come let's eat grandpa!

Use punctuation, save lives!

 

:D lol

[Raven68]

If the risk is too great, the reward doesn't matter. You don't stay in a business by taking risks that are effectively unnecessary.

 

A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

 

What does birds and bushes have to do with this? :P J/K Sobek.

I am, after all, on the outside looking in. ED and other developers have numbers and studies to help make their decisions and will do whats best for business.

[NineLine]

you know we don't have planes like f-16, f-18 (yes it is coming eventually), f-14, f-4, f-15e?

 

they spent too much energy to ww2 planes or outdated fihters like sabre, mig-21.

 

i think if they presented us some of the planes i mentioned, both customers and ed itself would be very happy.

 

We dont know what ED has in the works beyond what they have announced... I am quite sure how aware ED is to the fact that many people want modern stuff as well. And you can pretty much bank on the fact that they have stuff in the works we dont know about...

[Wolf Rider]

What does birds and bushes have to do with this? :P J/K Sobek.

I am, after all, on the outside looking in. ED and other developers have numbers and studies to help make their decisions and will do whats best for business.

 

 

 

its not always all about business... there is professional integrity amongst peers to consider (hopefully though, due thought is also given to not creating a cartel as well) also legal issues to contend with, I assume

Edited December 22, 2014 by Wolf Rider

[flanker1]

you know we don't have planes like f-16, f-18 (yes it is coming eventually), f-14, f-4, f-15e?

 

they spent too much energy to ww2 planes or outdated fihters like sabre, mig-21.

 

i think if they presented us some of the planes i mentioned, both customers and ed itself would be very happy.

 

you are right, su-27 is not well known. . . it´s famous!

[SkateZilla]

Because systems data and other resources are still classified for most of those aircraft.

[bengo]

To me it looks like they (ED) are having trouble modelling/programming the air-to-ground radar. They have been carefully steering clear of these systems by picking airframes that don't have A-G-radar.

Are they waiting for EDGE to solve this problem ? I don't know.

Just my two eurocents.

[SkateZilla]

The F-18s on development both have A2G Radar.

 

They did mention A2G Radar in the Sept. Newsletter

[cichlidfan]

The F-18s on development both have A2G Radar.

 

They did mention A2G Radar in the Sept. Newsletter

 

Yes, but bengo's point is still a valid possibility.

[Abburo]

You can be sure that it is not worth to try to overcome some engine limitations when you know that a new optimized one is around the corner.

 

We all already know that are multiple law implications in all what this sim offer currently. We know VEAO struggle with Hawk licence, we all know those two helis initially started as free mods that are in trouble to use real names. We don't know ED behind the stage activities... but this does not mean that they are not doing such things.

 

On the other hand, everybody wants ultra super fast jets, super complex electronics on board, so on and so forth... strange part is that always on the multiplayer lobby the VA server is almost always full ! And no god damn single fire is been shooting there. How do you think a Cesna/Piper/Extra300 will fit there... ? Or a C130... I tell you: just perfect !!!

[lmp]

On the other hand, everybody wants ultra super fast jets, super complex electronics on board, so on and so forth...

 

Actually, it's pretty impossible to tell what everybody (or rather, the majority of customers, since there's not a single thing that everybody would like) wants based solely on wishlists and threads like this one. People who are most likely to post may not be the ones who are most likely to buy or to play on MP servers. Where I work we of course listen to the community requests and complaints but if what the community says goes against what our business statistics show us... guess what wins?

 

My intuition tells me planes like the upcoming F/A-18C and Mirage will be very popular (not a difficult guess frankly), but whether they will be more popular than WW2 planes, especially if you factor in the production costs? I don't think that's clear based on just the community input.

 

I am, after all, on the outside looking in. ED and other developers have numbers and studies to help make their decisions and will do whats best for business.

 

This.

[Chappie]

you know we don't have planes like f-16, f-18 (yes it is coming eventually), f-14, f-4, f-15e?

 

they spent too much energy to ww2 planes or outdated fihters like sabre, mig-21.

 

i think if they presented us some of the planes i mentioned, both customers and ed itself would be very happy.

 

 

You mentioned NATO aircraft but what I find refreshing and enjoyable are all the Soviet and Russian bloc aircraft present and accounted for. Without ED and, for that matter, The Fighter Collection, we would have no experience operating these simulated aircraft other than as cheap, crappy mods in Falcon BMS or some other old sim.

 

What ED/TFC have brought to the table is indeed different, fresh, and welcome because I very much have appreciation for military aircraft I would have otherwise only known as AI targets. I enjoy the MiG-21 and MiG-29, the Su-27 and Su-33, the Su-25 and Su-25T. I was'nt even aware of these aircraft as a young adult until ED had the balls to release Su-27 Flanker, an obscure title that gained popularity and following as it evolved into DCS World.

 

Igor Tishin and crew have made this all possible for us and though DCS may not have the module we want to fly, third party development has opened a new door to bring relief to the overburdened dev staff dealing with EDGE, the F/A-18C, the Spitfire, and whatever else on their plate. The MiG-15 is on the way and, since this is a sandbox and not a NATO game full of overstimulated (Janes, Microprose, Spectrum Holobyte, Digital Integration, SSI, etc.) aircraft but actually a place where any kind of aircraft could exist, it is indeed refreshing after all and a hearty thank you to you Igor and your team.

[Belgeode]

You mentioned NATO aircraft but what I find refreshing and enjoyable are all the Soviet and Russian bloc aircraft present and accounted for. Without ED and, for that matter, The Fighter Collection, we would have no experience operating these simulated aircraft other than as cheap, crappy mods in Falcon BMS or some other old sim.

 

What ED/TFC have brought to the table is indeed different, fresh, and welcome because I very much have appreciation for military aircraft I would have otherwise only known as AI targets. I enjoy the MiG-21 and MiG-29, the Su-27 and Su-33, the Su-25 and Su-25T. I was'nt even aware of these aircraft as a young adult until ED had the balls to release Su-27 Flanker, an obscure title that gained popularity and following as it evolved into DCS World.

 

Igor Tishin and crew have made this all possible for us and though DCS may not have the module we want to fly, third party development has opened a new door to bring relief to the overburdened dev staff dealing with EDGE, the F/A-18C, the Spitfire, and whatever else on their plate. The MiG-15 is on the way and, since this is a sandbox and not a NATO game full of overstimulated (Janes, Microprose, Spectrum Holobyte, Digital Integration, SSI, etc.) aircraft but actually a place where any kind of aircraft could exist, it is indeed refreshing after all and a hearty thank you to you Igor and your team.

 

I almost hate to say it, but you know what, I think you are right Chappie. Prior to my getting DCS and actually flying it, I looked down my nose at these vaunted Russian aircraft. It was not till I put aside my own prejudice and hopped into the frogfoot, that I started to really enjoy the fidelity ED has brought to these jets. They've made a believer out of me.

 

THis having been said, my vote for next plane STILL is for the F-14 Tomcat. If ED can put that much love into the planes they have released now, I bet they can do the same for this, my favorite fighter jet of all time. Hornet comes a close second for me.

[Chappie]

I almost hate to say it, but you know what, I think you are right Chappie. Prior to my getting DCS and actually flying it, I looked down my nose at these vaunted Russian aircraft. It was not till I put aside my own prejudice and hopped into the frogfoot, that I started to really enjoy the fidelity ED has brought to these jets. They've made a believer out of me.

 

 

 

THis having been said, my vote for next plane STILL is for the F-14 Tomcat. If ED can put that much love into the planes they have released now, I bet they can do the same for this, my favorite fighter jet of all time. Hornet comes a close second for me.

 

 

F-14!for my first born x .... I just gotta have an F-14. That is one bird given very little attention and only by Microprose and Third Wire.

[pctoptech]

Could I suggest A P38 or P47 as the next US fixed wing, neither of these has been done as a study sim to my knowledge.

[rrohde]

You mentioned NATO aircraft but what I find refreshing and enjoyable are all the Soviet and Russian bloc aircraft present and accounted for. Without ED and, for that matter, The Fighter Collection, we would have no experience operating these simulated aircraft other than as cheap, crappy mods in Falcon BMS or some other old sim.

 

What ED/TFC have brought to the table is indeed different, fresh, and welcome because I very much have appreciation for military aircraft I would have otherwise only known as AI targets. I enjoy the MiG-21 and MiG-29, the Su-27 and Su-33, the Su-25 and Su-25T. I was'nt even aware of these aircraft as a young adult until ED had the balls to release Su-27 Flanker, an obscure title that gained popularity and following as it evolved into DCS World.

 

Igor Tishin and crew have made this all possible for us and though DCS may not have the module we want to fly, third party development has opened a new door to bring relief to the overburdened dev staff dealing with EDGE, the F/A-18C, the Spitfire, and whatever else on their plate. The MiG-15 is on the way and, since this is a sandbox and not a NATO game full of overstimulated (Janes, Microprose, Spectrum Holobyte, Digital Integration, SSI, etc.) aircraft but actually a place where any kind of aircraft could exist, it is indeed refreshing after all and a hearty thank you to you Igor and your team.

 

This post just resonates with me, as I feel pretty much the same! Well said... well said. :)

[cs_280zx]

not to feel like im nagging or beating a dead horse. but to the dcs devs.

 

there is no doubt you guys are doing exception work for the sim genre and i have a-10 and ka-50 and love them both.

but i would like to stress the desire/demand for an F-18 E/F model (not a flamingcliffs port) but a full, active cockpit and modelled sim like a-10c or ka-50 bs2.

 

i am sure i can speak for many others in saying, that a supersonic and iconic multirole aircraft is highly desired. - i should also stress i do not refer to the F-35 (lemon)

 

as an example, its been since 1999 when jane's released F/A-18, and to this day, i find its one of the most accurate 'to date' for the f18 and as the posts' polls indicate the majority swings in its favour.

 

please let us know what may be happening in the future.

thanks

Carl

[Solty]

not to feel like im nagging or beating a dead horse. but to the dcs devs.

 

there is no doubt you guys are doing exception work for the sim genre and i have a-10 and ka-50 and love them both.

but i would like to stress the desire/demand for an F-18 E/F model (not a flamingcliffs port) but a full, active cockpit and modelled sim like a-10c or ka-50 bs2.

 

i am sure i can speak for many others in saying, that a supersonic and iconic multirole aircraft is highly desired. - i should also stress i do not refer to the F-35 (lemon)

 

as an example, its been since 1999 when jane's released F/A-18, and to this day, i find its one of the most accurate 'to date' for the f18 and as the posts' polls indicate the majority swings in its favour.

 

please let us know what may be happening in the future.

thanks

Carl

 

You do realise that F-18 was treated the same way as the F35 is, right? F- 14 pilots were saying that they are pathetic when compared the tomcat.

[Mike Busutil]

i would like to stress the desire/demand for an F-18 E/F model

 

Do you know that Eagle Dynamics ARE currently working on an F/A-18C Hornet? As well as Cortex Designs F/A-18E Super Hornet?

 

i should also stress i do not refer to the F-35 (lemon)

 

Are you an F-35 test pilot? Are you an F-35 program manager? Are you an F-35 data collector /analyzer? If not then you are in no position to comment on the capabilities of the F-35 at this time...

[Vampyre]

You do realise that F-18 was treated the same way as the F35 is, right? F- 14 pilots were saying that they are pathetic when compared the tomcat.

 

True, the F/A-18 is a poor performer when compared with the Tomcat. It was never designed for all out performance. The only reason they cover the decks of our carriers is that they were the cheaper alternative to everything else that was proposed. The only real advantages the new F/A-18's really have is in the electronic gadgets they carry. Currently, the F-35 is way more expensive than the F/A-18 and it seems that it is a poor performer from most reports so, for what we will be paying for it, it had better kill all of our enemies from just the sight of it.

 

I'm really hoping for Leatherneck to produce a F-14.... it doesn't even matter what version either. A,B or D are all great. That being said (and hopefully in the works), I'd like an OV-10A/D Bronco, F-105D/G, F-4E ARN-101 Phantom or F-4G Wild Weasel as well.

[Mr_Burns]

 

i am sure i can speak for many others in saying, that a supersonic and iconic multirole aircraft is highly desired. - i should also stress i do not refer to the F-35 (lemon)

 

as an example, its been since 1999 when jane's released F/A-18, and to this day, i find its one of the most accurate 'to date' for the f18 and as the posts' polls indicate the majority swings in its favour.

 

please let us know what may be happening in the future.

thanks

Carl

 

You can't really say anything about the F-35, far too much hype, spin and top secret specification. You certainly could not accurately simulate it to the fidelity DCS demands.

 

I would like F/A 18 because I want to do A2G missions from a Carrier with modern avionics and laser guided bombs and missiles with opportunity for fleet air defence, offence making it a great investment with huge Single Player campaign possibility.

[shagrat]

You guys are aware that the F/A-18 IS currently in development by ED, as their next Aircraft, aren't you?

:D