3Sqn_Sven Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 I'm having repeated instances of my weapons release not working. I'm using the ERI mod, otherwise a stock game. Will be fine for about half an hour, then all of a sudden gun trigger and missiles won't work. Been flying the F-15 mostly but it also happens in the russian jets. Same thing happened to Ruggbutt. 3Sqn - Largest distributor of Flanker, Fulcrum and Frogfoot parts in the Black Sea Region Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maximus Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 I had a similiar problem. I uninstalled the Yoda ERI mod awhile back because of this, it's relate to numpad 1 button. like ruggbutt reported the bug on your forums. if you want to use ERI mod. dont touch the numpad 1 button Maximus, The only real Maximus in DCS World. :music_whistling: I am not associated to viper 33 | Maximus. he is the imposter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
104th_Crunch Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 Confirming Maximus' statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fahhh Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 I'm using the stock game, and still sometimes I cannot launch a missile. And yes, it often happens 20-30 mins into the flight, when i often am out of med-range missiles and sneaking for heater kills. It costed me a few lost planes. I fly russian birds, and it has happened on almost all missiles - R-27ER/ET/77. Last night I was sneaking on an eagle, and was <10km away, had seeker lock on my ET, had LA and it didn't fire. We closed in, merged and all of this time I was trying to launch it with no luck. I did not have a stuck modifier cause everything else on the kbd and joy was working. Really weird! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3Sqn_Sven Posted April 14, 2010 Author Share Posted April 14, 2010 I'm not using the keyboard for anything so it's kind of weird. From Ruggs description of the problem, his issue did seem directly related to the keypad as he uses it. I don't through... 3Sqn - Largest distributor of Flanker, Fulcrum and Frogfoot parts in the Black Sea Region Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IvanK Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 I am getting exactly the same issue. Stock FC2 install using CH Fighter stick. It happens randomly, all launch parameters met, pickle (press,2 bananas then release the button) no missile launch. A second or on some occasions a third press hold release will result in missile launch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fahhh Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 Now when I come to think of it... Missiles and systems aren't 100% reliable, from talks with real fighter pilots, not everything works the way it should, when you want it to. Radars not being able to lock, missiles not being able to track or dropping dead from the pylons, or even remaining on the pylon are things that rarely, but do happen in RL. I doubt this has been modeled in FC2, but would be a nice touch. Entering a fight not being 100% sure if everything will work perfectly would be a nice addition to the atmosphere and the immersion of the sim... Even when you close in, press the trigger and nothing happens... "Oh sh*tttttttt"... what a thrill :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3Sqn_Sven Posted April 14, 2010 Author Share Posted April 14, 2010 That's true but you'd be able to fire something. In these frequent cases you can't fire anything, not even guns. 3Sqn - Largest distributor of Flanker, Fulcrum and Frogfoot parts in the Black Sea Region Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
104th_Crunch Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 I'm using the stock game, and still sometimes I cannot launch a missile. Does this happen with all weapons including the gun that you can't fire Fahhh? I had the same issue as you Sven, no cannon or missiles in the F-15. Since I uninstalled the ERI mod the problem went away. Now, I can't say with 100% certainty, because I did not thoroughly test that ERI was causing the issue, but in my case it seemed to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moa Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 I have a Microsoft X6 keyboard that has removable keypad (so can be attached either left or right) but I don't use it (it is not attached to the keyboard proper) and I get this problem. I don't use Yoda's ERI mod at the moment either. I did have missile firing problems when in windowed mode, even when the window was fullscreen size. Most of my keyboard/missile launch problems went away when I ensured that the window was full size *and* the "fullscreen" option was checked. It appears focus in LockOn would be lost and then would come back after a few minutes (also meant I couldn't change nav mode etc). I've also found that re-mapping the chat commands to the FC1.12 bindings would also periodically cause strange keyboard behaviour - but I have not investigated this thoroughly to ensure it wasn't me making a mistake. Anyway, my point is you ought to have the "fullscreen" option ticked or other applications can steal keyboard input "focus" (looks like TeamSpeak 3 likes to do this). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilotasso Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 (edited) No problems here, using ERI and in full screen mode. Edited April 14, 2010 by Pilotasso [sigpic]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic4448_29.gif[/sigpic] My PC specs below:Case: Corsair 400C PSU: SEASONIC SS-760XP2 760W Platinum CPU: AMD RYZEN 3900X (12C/24T) RAM: 32 GB 4266Mhz (two 2x8 kits) of trident Z RGB @3600Mhz CL 14 CR=1T MOBO: ASUS CROSSHAIR HERO VI AM4 GFX: GTX 1080Ti MSI Gaming X Cooler: NXZT Kraken X62 280mm AIO Storage: Samsung 960 EVO 1TB M.2+6GB WD 6Gb red HOTAS: Thrustmaster Warthog + CH pro pedals Monitor: Gigabyte AORUS AD27QD Freesync HDR400 1440P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustinN360 Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 I was talking to fusion about this very problem. The way he told me to sort it was to unassign the numpad keys from their defaults in game (head view in the cockpit) and install .net 4.0. This solved my issue with ERI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilotasso Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 hmmm what operating system guys? [sigpic]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic4448_29.gif[/sigpic] My PC specs below:Case: Corsair 400C PSU: SEASONIC SS-760XP2 760W Platinum CPU: AMD RYZEN 3900X (12C/24T) RAM: 32 GB 4266Mhz (two 2x8 kits) of trident Z RGB @3600Mhz CL 14 CR=1T MOBO: ASUS CROSSHAIR HERO VI AM4 GFX: GTX 1080Ti MSI Gaming X Cooler: NXZT Kraken X62 280mm AIO Storage: Samsung 960 EVO 1TB M.2+6GB WD 6Gb red HOTAS: Thrustmaster Warthog + CH pro pedals Monitor: Gigabyte AORUS AD27QD Freesync HDR400 1440P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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3Sqn_Sven Posted April 14, 2010 Author Share Posted April 14, 2010 I'm on XP. I've had the same issue as Moa where I've remapped keys for chat to 1.12 default and had all my keys stop working, but this issue of the fire buttons not working is seperate I think. It happens randomly, all other functions work, ie EVERY other button and command works except for weapons release, and it will happen without me using a chat window. It's almost like I'm unwittingly setting the master arm to safe...is there a master arm command now in the fighters? 3Sqn - Largest distributor of Flanker, Fulcrum and Frogfoot parts in the Black Sea Region Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustinN360 Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 It's because of ERI's master arm switch being numpad 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3Sqn_Sven Posted April 14, 2010 Author Share Posted April 14, 2010 It's because of ERI's master arm switch being numpad 2. We have a winner! How come it doesn't work all the time. I hit numpad 2, I can't fire, I hit it again and I still can't fire, but if I hit it a couple of times I can fire again? 3Sqn - Largest distributor of Flanker, Fulcrum and Frogfoot parts in the Black Sea Region Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustinN360 Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 Is the numpad 2 key assigned to anything ingame? (normally look down or look down slow) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3Sqn_Sven Posted April 14, 2010 Author Share Posted April 14, 2010 I've got an idea of what's happening. If you look at the PACS panel on the eagle, on the right side where it says COOL, if the master arm is set to arm there will be a box around the COOL, if it is safe it will be unboxed. So when I press 2 it is cycling, as opposed to it being just one press. So by looking at the pacs panel you know whether you're safe or armed. I've changed the key to 3 in the ERI script as I use 2. The issue is now that I only want to press it, not cycle it 100 x sec by pressing the 3 key. Maybe I could change it to another button on the main part of the keyboard 3Sqn - Largest distributor of Flanker, Fulcrum and Frogfoot parts in the Black Sea Region Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IvanK Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 But its happening on the Russian types as well with no ERI mod (Win 7 64bit) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3Sqn_Sven Posted April 14, 2010 Author Share Posted April 14, 2010 Just the weapons release or other commands as well? 3Sqn - Largest distributor of Flanker, Fulcrum and Frogfoot parts in the Black Sea Region Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maximus Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 (edited) Good find Sven. took awhile for me to figure why I couldnt fire anything. and the LO forum claim that there is NO master arm key commands. but it was added into ERI-Mod. now I figured out why I couldnt fire the missile or shoot the cannon. Thanks for posting this. Cheer S!. Ill try to clear the numpad to clear the assigned "quick view" commands. and see what happen. EDIT: there is 3 keybinding found in ERI_radar.lua kb_libs = package.loadlib("./Config/Export/lua_keys.dll","init_libs") or package.loadlib("./Config/Export/lua_keys_win7.dll","init_libs") if kb_libs then kb_libs(); end -- Lib successfully initialized! allows access to kb_fcns -- use http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb431750.aspx as reference for key codes -- Our keyboard settings keys = {}; keys["step"]=0x60; -- num0 keys["lbst"]=0x61; -- num1 keys["masterArm"]=0x62; -- num2 there is number pad 0 for steps, 1 for LBST and 2 for MasterArm toggle. Edited April 15, 2010 by Maximus Maximus, The only real Maximus in DCS World. :music_whistling: I am not associated to viper 33 | Maximus. he is the imposter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smarmet Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 Windows 7 x64 I am also running the stock game, in windows 7 64bit. I can confirm that the arm switch has nothing to do with this likely separate issue, as the cannon works fine, the hud arm switch displays in the correct position and the missiles will occasionally fire (on the order of 50% of the time if the button is held.) I have the game running full screen in my monitors native resolution (1600x1200.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distiler Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 I don't have this problem but I'm using internal control setup. Could it be because external joystick profiler? you can try to delete assignement there and assign it just in the internal FC2 controls setup. A friend of mine had this problem and was somewhat related to a bad configuration in it's Saitek profiler (it was automatically asigning a release weapon push-unpush-push-unpush-push-unpush etc. for release weapons, he had to delete the unpush part and it was just a constant push while he pressed the joy button, this way worked) AMD Ryzen 1400 // 16 GB DDR4 2933Mhz // Nvidia 1060 6GB // W10 64bit // Microsoft Sidewinder Precision 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3Sqn_Sven Posted April 15, 2010 Author Share Posted April 15, 2010 I am also running the stock game, in windows 7 64bit. I can confirm that the arm switch has nothing to do with this likely separate issue, as the cannon works fine, the hud arm switch displays in the correct position and the missiles will occasionally fire (on the order of 50% of the time if the button is held.) I have the game running full screen in my monitors native resolution (1600x1200.) The issue is related to ERI, and it is the ERI master arm swtich. The other issue is related to ctrl. 3Sqn - Largest distributor of Flanker, Fulcrum and Frogfoot parts in the Black Sea Region Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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