Lancelot Posted May 27, 2010 Share Posted May 27, 2010 Not complaining about the patch, well just a little bit :), its great, but just when i'm starting to get in to this sim, i learn by reading the manual how to set a radio station frequency and hear it, and by reading the forum how to hear internet radio stations while flying, and with patch 1.02 we lost all that :( I want to hear some music while practicing flying this beast, because i can see that it will take a lot of hours to master. And the possibility to hear music while flying using my own created audio files was very apealing. What is the problem with the new engine sound that we cant have anymore this great feature!. Please give it back! :helpsmilie: :music_whistling: Thanks for the support, and my apologies for the complain, i usually don't post complaints, but it's like a small step back to have lost this possibility. Thanks ED anyway for the sim, its awesome! :pilotfly: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logite Posted May 27, 2010 Share Posted May 27, 2010 You could listen to the radio? What? Coooool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffin Posted May 27, 2010 Share Posted May 27, 2010 I'm not sure but the internet radio mod should work. It doesn't have anything to do with the actual sound engine I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amarok_73 Posted May 27, 2010 Share Posted May 27, 2010 Have You heard about... Winamp? Or Aimp? Radio in BS was buggy, so if decision about disabling of this option was made with care about stability of simulator, I can understand this decision. Natural Born Kamikaze ------------------------- AMD Ryzen 5 3600, AMD Fatal1ty B450 Gaming K4, AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT, 32 GB RAM Corsair Vengeance LPX, PSU Modecom Volcano 750W, Logitech G940 HOTAS, Turtle Beach VelocityOne Rudder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EtherealN Posted May 27, 2010 Share Posted May 27, 2010 It wasn't strictly a case of "disabling" the option - it was a case of the entire sound engine from 1.0.0 and 1.0.1 being thrown out and replaced by a new one. (One that has sound speed, mach cone, frequency attenuations and so on.) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Daniel "EtherealN" Agorander | Даниэль "эфирныйн" Агорандер Intel i7 2600K @ 4.4GHz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600MHz, ASUS GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1GB, Samsung 830series 512GB SSD, Corsair AX850w, two BENQ screens and TM HOTAS Warthog DCS: A-10C Warthog FAQ | DCS: P-51D FAQ | Remember to read the Forum Rules | | | Life of a Game Tester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
average_pilot Posted May 27, 2010 Share Posted May 27, 2010 At the same time, have you heard about immersion? Being able to dial a broadcasting signal with the BS radio controls that is affected by range and line of sight with the source is a completly different thing to launch a playlist in winamp. I didn't know there were bugs, by the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EtherealN Posted May 27, 2010 Share Posted May 27, 2010 Yes, but I get more immersion from things like being sonic-boomed by a fighter that's passing overhead, explosion sound lag, low-pass sound attenuation and such things rather than just tuning in a music station. If I did something like that IRL I'd get grounded for reckless flying. ;) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Daniel "EtherealN" Agorander | Даниэль "эфирныйн" Агорандер Intel i7 2600K @ 4.4GHz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600MHz, ASUS GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1GB, Samsung 830series 512GB SSD, Corsair AX850w, two BENQ screens and TM HOTAS Warthog DCS: A-10C Warthog FAQ | DCS: P-51D FAQ | Remember to read the Forum Rules | | | Life of a Game Tester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucic Posted May 27, 2010 Share Posted May 27, 2010 Yes, but I get more immersion from things like being sonic-boomed by a fighter that's passing overhead, explosion sound lag, low-pass sound attenuation and such things rather than just tuning in a music station. If I did something like that IRL I'd get grounded for reckless flying. ;) I have to agree with you. You just have to do something wrong if you have some focus left to share on listening to music. Especially in a single seat stone age helicopter :P But then I'm far from jumping in to someone else's topic yelling "naaah, you don't need it!". But still it is of low priority compared to the new sound engine benefits or wingmen *cuagh* AI :music_whistling: F-5E simpit cockpit dimensions and flight controls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
average_pilot Posted May 27, 2010 Share Posted May 27, 2010 Yes, but I get more immersion from things like being sonic-boomed by a fighter that's passing overhead, explosion sound lag, low-pass sound attenuation and such things rather than just tuning in a music station. If I did something like that IRL I'd get grounded for reckless flying. ;)I was replying to Pipok. I was to lazy to go to full editor with quoting etc. :) And to be sure I'm understood this time, I like the new sound engine very much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team c0ff Posted May 27, 2010 ED Team Share Posted May 27, 2010 Proper 'radio station' support requires streaming music from the disk. Old engine just loaded the files into memory. New engine also does not have streaming yet. Given tight memory constraints we have in a 32-bit application, radio stations in their existing form were removed for the sake of stability. Yes, some people are upset, but hopefully we have less Crash-To-Desktop reports. Given enough development resources, radio stations will return in a more pleasant and user-extendable form. Though, no promises. Dmitry S. Baikov @ Eagle Dynamics LockOn FC2 Soundtrack Remastered out NOW everywhere - https://band.link/LockOnFC2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
average_pilot Posted May 27, 2010 Share Posted May 27, 2010 Yes, some people are upset...Not me, what a misunderstanding : / Really, I didn't know it was unstable, never had problems dialing the broadcast signal. It's not that I really need that feature to be happy, is just that you can't replace it with a music player application, so it's not a valid response to the Lancelot's petition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boberro Posted May 27, 2010 Share Posted May 27, 2010 I use AIMP to play radio stations during my game and I am satisfied it ;] Reminder: Fighter pilots make movies. Bomber pilots make... HISTORY! :D | Also to be remembered: FRENCH TANKS HAVE ONE GEAR FORWARD AND FIVE BACKWARD :D ಠ_ಠ ツ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucic Posted May 27, 2010 Share Posted May 27, 2010 Proper 'radio station' support requires streaming music from the disk. Old engine just loaded the files into memory. New engine also does not have streaming yet. Given tight memory constraints we have in a 32-bit application, radio stations in their existing form were removed for the sake of stability. Yes, some people are upset, but hopefully we have less Crash-To-Desktop reports. Given enough development resources, radio stations will return in a more pleasant and user-extendable form. Though, no promises. I start to like the sound team better than other teams for the updates on status and plans ;) F-5E simpit cockpit dimensions and flight controls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EtherealN Posted May 27, 2010 Share Posted May 27, 2010 Well now, c0ff isn't only involved in sound AFAIK. :P [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Daniel "EtherealN" Agorander | Даниэль "эфирныйн" Агорандер Intel i7 2600K @ 4.4GHz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600MHz, ASUS GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1GB, Samsung 830series 512GB SSD, Corsair AX850w, two BENQ screens and TM HOTAS Warthog DCS: A-10C Warthog FAQ | DCS: P-51D FAQ | Remember to read the Forum Rules | | | Life of a Game Tester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucic Posted May 27, 2010 Share Posted May 27, 2010 Well now, c0ff isn't only involved in sound AFAIK. :P I know. Hence "the team" :) F-5E simpit cockpit dimensions and flight controls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancelot Posted May 27, 2010 Author Share Posted May 27, 2010 Proper 'radio station' support requires streaming music from the disk. Old engine just loaded the files into memory. New engine also does not have streaming yet. Given tight memory constraints we have in a 32-bit application, radio stations in their existing form were removed for the sake of stability. Yes, some people are upset, but hopefully we have less Crash-To-Desktop reports. Given enough development resources, radio stations will return in a more pleasant and user-extendable form. Though, no promises. I´m not upset at all. And i understand and agree that its a low priority option, and for stability reasons it was better to remove it, but its a such a neat detail to have it, that it push me to put this little request (complaint). Please don´t take it as a serious complaint, the spirit of the topic was more of a request, but i guess i wans´t succesfull to make it look that way. And as for using winamp or aimp, its not the same thing, not even near. Still, i for your post i keep high hopes to have it back, even if most likely will take a lot of time to get it back since it must be very low on priority list. Thanks for the answe c0ff! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Focha Posted May 27, 2010 Share Posted May 27, 2010 Where one can see the differences from the previous sound engine to the new one? Is there any significant changes? I can live without the radio broadcast, I only used it once just to hear what it was about. Best regards. ASUS N552VX | i7-6700HQ @ 2.59GHz | 16 GB DDR3 | NVIDIA GF GTX 950M 4 Gb | 250 Gb SSD | 1 Tb HD SATA II Backup | TIR4 | Microsoft S. FF 2+X52 Throttle+Saitek Pedals | Win 10 64 bits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucic Posted May 27, 2010 Share Posted May 27, 2010 Where one can see the differences from the previous sound engine to the new one? Is there any significant changes? I can live without the radio broadcast, I only used it once just to hear what it was about. Best regards. There was a topic on the subject already. I can't give you the link though. F-5E simpit cockpit dimensions and flight controls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Focha Posted May 27, 2010 Share Posted May 27, 2010 There was a topic on the subject already. I can't give you the link though. I found it. Thanks anyway. http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=43547 Regards. EDIT: Nop... I think it's not this one. :( ASUS N552VX | i7-6700HQ @ 2.59GHz | 16 GB DDR3 | NVIDIA GF GTX 950M 4 Gb | 250 Gb SSD | 1 Tb HD SATA II Backup | TIR4 | Microsoft S. FF 2+X52 Throttle+Saitek Pedals | Win 10 64 bits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucic Posted May 27, 2010 Share Posted May 27, 2010 New DCS:Ka-50 and FC2.0 sound engine F-5E simpit cockpit dimensions and flight controls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dagger_c3 Posted May 27, 2010 Share Posted May 27, 2010 (edited) Couldn't this be done by Lua + dll plugin that links with the winmm.dll library??? Something like this: http://www.geekpedia.com/code111_Play-MP3-Files-Using-Csharp.html But instead of using a C# wrapper, using a C++ one. Of course we probably loose the interferences effects, the radio range and so on, but at least it will be something.... Edited May 27, 2010 by Dagger_c3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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