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Not complaining about the patch, well just a little bit :), its great, but just when i'm starting to get in to this sim, i learn by reading the manual how to set a radio station frequency and hear it, and by reading the forum how to hear internet radio stations while flying, and with patch 1.02 we lost all that :(

I want to hear some music while practicing flying this beast, because i can see that it will take a lot of hours to master. And the possibility to hear music while flying using my own created audio files was very apealing.

 

What is the problem with the new engine sound that we cant have anymore this great feature!. Please give it back! :helpsmilie: :music_whistling:

 

Thanks for the support, and my apologies for the complain, i usually don't post complaints, but it's like a small step back to have lost this possibility.

Thanks ED anyway for the sim, its awesome! :pilotfly:

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Have You heard about... Winamp? Or Aimp?

Radio in BS was buggy, so if decision about disabling of this option was made with care about stability of simulator, I can understand this decision.

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It wasn't strictly a case of "disabling" the option - it was a case of the entire sound engine from 1.0.0 and 1.0.1 being thrown out and replaced by a new one. (One that has sound speed, mach cone, frequency attenuations and so on.)

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At the same time, have you heard about immersion? Being able to dial a broadcasting signal with the BS radio controls that is affected by range and line of sight with the source is a completly different thing to launch a playlist in winamp.

I didn't know there were bugs, by the way.

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Yes, but I get more immersion from things like being sonic-boomed by a fighter that's passing overhead, explosion sound lag, low-pass sound attenuation and such things rather than just tuning in a music station. If I did something like that IRL I'd get grounded for reckless flying. ;)

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Yes, but I get more immersion from things like being sonic-boomed by a fighter that's passing overhead, explosion sound lag, low-pass sound attenuation and such things rather than just tuning in a music station. If I did something like that IRL I'd get grounded for reckless flying. ;)

I have to agree with you. You just have to do something wrong if you have some focus left to share on listening to music. Especially in a single seat stone age helicopter :P But then I'm far from jumping in to someone else's topic yelling "naaah, you don't need it!". But still it is of low priority compared to the new sound engine benefits or wingmen *cuagh* AI :music_whistling:

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Yes, but I get more immersion from things like being sonic-boomed by a fighter that's passing overhead, explosion sound lag, low-pass sound attenuation and such things rather than just tuning in a music station. If I did something like that IRL I'd get grounded for reckless flying. ;)
I was replying to Pipok. I was to lazy to go to full editor with quoting etc. :)

And to be sure I'm understood this time, I like the new sound engine very much.

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Proper 'radio station' support requires streaming music from the disk. Old engine just loaded the files into memory. New engine also does not have streaming yet.

Given tight memory constraints we have in a 32-bit application, radio stations in their existing form were removed for the sake of stability.

Yes, some people are upset, but hopefully we have less Crash-To-Desktop reports.

Given enough development resources, radio stations will return in a more pleasant and user-extendable form. Though, no promises.

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Yes, some people are upset...
Not me, what a misunderstanding : /

Really, I didn't know it was unstable, never had problems dialing the broadcast signal.

It's not that I really need that feature to be happy, is just that you can't replace it with a music player application, so it's not a valid response to the Lancelot's petition.

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I use AIMP to play radio stations during my game and I am satisfied it ;]

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Proper 'radio station' support requires streaming music from the disk. Old engine just loaded the files into memory. New engine also does not have streaming yet.

Given tight memory constraints we have in a 32-bit application, radio stations in their existing form were removed for the sake of stability.

Yes, some people are upset, but hopefully we have less Crash-To-Desktop reports.

Given enough development resources, radio stations will return in a more pleasant and user-extendable form. Though, no promises.

I start to like the sound team better than other teams for the updates on status and plans ;)

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Well now, c0ff isn't only involved in sound AFAIK. :P

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Proper 'radio station' support requires streaming music from the disk. Old engine just loaded the files into memory. New engine also does not have streaming yet.

Given tight memory constraints we have in a 32-bit application, radio stations in their existing form were removed for the sake of stability.

Yes, some people are upset, but hopefully we have less Crash-To-Desktop reports.

Given enough development resources, radio stations will return in a more pleasant and user-extendable form. Though, no promises.

 

I´m not upset at all. And i understand and agree that its a low priority option, and for stability reasons it was better to remove it, but its a such a neat detail to have it, that it push me to put this little request (complaint).

Please don´t take it as a serious complaint, the spirit of the topic was more of a request, but i guess i wans´t succesfull to make it look that way.

 

And as for using winamp or aimp, its not the same thing, not even near.

Still, i for your post i keep high hopes to have it back, even if most likely will take a lot of time to get it back since it must be very low on priority list.

 

Thanks for the answe c0ff!

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Where one can see the differences from the previous sound engine to the new one? Is there any significant changes?

 

I can live without the radio broadcast, I only used it once just to hear what it was about.

 

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There was a topic on the subject already. I can't give you the link though.

 

I found it. Thanks anyway.

 

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=43547

 

Regards.

 

EDIT: Nop... I think it's not this one. :(

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Couldn't this be done by Lua + dll plugin that links with the winmm.dll library???

 

Something like this:

 

http://www.geekpedia.com/code111_Play-MP3-Files-Using-Csharp.html

 

But instead of using a C# wrapper, using a C++ one.

 

Of course we probably loose the interferences effects, the radio range and so on, but at least it will be something....


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