Vihkr Firing Problem

[bumfire]

Quick Question,

 

I have just bought lockon FC2, now when I lockup a target in the 25t, I do it as I would in lockon FC 1.1.

 

I would lock the ground up and then set the gate size to the required size and then slew the cursor over to the target and hopefully first time it would stick, I would then engage the laser and then get within missile range, wait for LA to appear and then fire.

 

I know that FC2 only has one trigger for cannons and other munitons, compared to two triggers previously, so I know that SPACE is for firing ALL weapons in russian planes.

 

Now here comes the weird part, I can fire every weapon there is apart from the Vihkrs, I have locked the target up, I have the laser turned on and I get the LA symbol, but no matter what I do I cannot fire the vihkr, however, that being said, if I push Lctrl+V for SALVO, on the HUD both Vihkr stations will get the weapon ready BOX symbol around their respective pylons and I can then proceed to fire a salvo of vihkrs.

 

If I dont push Lctrl+V, both vihkr stations wont have weapon ready boxes around them on the hud, thus I cant fire the missiles at all.

 

Its only vihkrs that are a problem, all other munitions fire perfectly well, its just that in the manual on the page that has 72 printed at the bottom of it, or page 84 if you jump straight to it in adobe using adobes page search function, on that diagram, I cant get just 1 station to be weapons ready like in the diagram at the top of that page, it has to be both or no cigar on releasing vihkrs and I think something might be messed up with my install ?

 

So, in FC2, does one HAVE to push Lctrl+V before they can fire vihkrs, or is my game borked ?

 

Is this a bug or is it the way FC2 is, or is it a dodgy install I have ?

 

Cheers for any help that anyone might be able to give regarding the above question.

[Case]

Do you have the locked target located within the larger circle, like shown on this image?

[bumfire]

I have EVERYTHING in your picture except the boxed 4.

 

No matter what I do, I cannot get the 4 to be "Weapon Ready" on its own.

 

I can ONLY get Vihkrs to fire when there are boxes around the 4 and 8, and thats by having to push LCtrl+V, without pushing Lctrl+V vihkrs just wont fire.

[combatace]

I have EVERYTHING in your picture except the boxed 4.

 

No matter what I do, I cannot get the 4 to be "Weapon Ready" on its own.

 

I can ONLY get Vihkrs to fire when there are boxes around the 4 and 8, and thats by having to push LCtrl+V, without pushing Lctrl+V vihkrs just wont fire.

 

Do you turn on you laser by pressing RShift+O?

[Case]

Do you turn on you laser by pressing RShift+O?

My thought exactly... only with the laser on can you launch Vikhrs.

[bumfire]

yup, laser is turned on, I have it mapped to stick and it produces a LR when enabled, target is locked, gate size is 10, target circle is within larger circle, exactly like the picture above, I can fly holding the circles in the middle of the hud right down til I am kissing the target and even tho LA is given to me, unless I push LCtrl+V I just cannot fire the vihkrs for some strange reason.

 

I am gunna take a wild guess and say that this isnt the way that its meant to be, so it looks like my install went awry somewhere along the lines.

 

I did have problems with lockon installing, as it didnt like win7 64 and it gave me a MSXML.DLL not registered/unregistered error, so I had to set it to install in xp sp2 compat mode and as admin to get around that problem, and I also installed FC2 as admin just incase.

 

But I guess something went wrong somewhere, ahwell not to worry, I will go reinstall and see what happens this time.

 

Cheers.

[GGTharos]

Are you holding the trigger down, or just tapping it?

[Case]

I would argue that it is unlikely that your installation is wrong, and I would suggest you try a few more things before you reinstall.

 

Besides the keycommands mapped to your joystick, did you try and use the keyboard commands directly to slew to the target, lock it up, start the laser, and fire the weapon?

 

Besides selecting salvo mode, can you try the launch override option as well?

 

Perhaps you could post a track of one of your attack runs.

[bumfire]

I will make a track after I go have some f00d.

 

I did start to make one when the bloody sun started makin my TIR go nuts, so I had to jump out of game, plus food is nearly ready, I wont be long.

 

To answer a question before I go, the trigger is held down, not just pinged on and off, the thing that is getting me is that I can fire all the other missiles no problem, even laser guided ones and from the same plane/25t, its just the vikhrs that I am having problems with as they aint firing unless I go salvo mode for some reason, even when over ride is enabled, it makes the LA appear on screen, but still they dont fire.

 

Ok, something drastically could of changed from vanilla FC to FC2 in regards to firing vihkrs, but I am doing the exact same thing I did in FC with the exception that I am now firing them with the X52 trigger button, whereas in FC I had missiles and bombs mapped to the Fire button with the flip up cover.

 

Once I eat my Marks n Spencers sweet chilli chicken and fries I will get back to making a track, hopefully by that time the sun will have moved its butt away from my window.

[RIPTIDE]

About lasers... for Vikhr you don't have to manually turn on lasers anymore. For everything else (S-25L, K-25ML etc) yes. :)

[Breakshot]

Are you holding the trigger down, or just tapping it?

 

^^^!!!!!!

 

Press and HOLD the trigger button UNTIL the missiles is off the rail... there is a big difference in the way FC2 simulates weapon release... there is no longer an arcade style of release like FC1!

 

This issue seems to be one major, "why isnt it working?" silly question on these boards, for those who havent read the manual... :music_whistling:

[SFJackBauer]

About lasers... for Vikhr you don't have to manually turn on lasers anymore. For everything else (S-25L, K-25ML etc) yes. :)

 

RIPTIDE is right, that is probably the problem OP is experiencing. If you turn laser on manually before firing Vikhrs, you cant fire it.

[bumfire]

^^^!!!!!!

 

Press and HOLD the trigger button UNTIL the missiles is off the rail... there is a big difference in the way FC2 simulates weapon release... there is no longer an arcade style of release like FC1!

 

This issue seems to be one major, "why isnt it working?" silly question on these boards, for those who havent read the manual... :music_whistling:

 

I take it that you missed the part where I link to Page 72 or page 84 if you use the Adobe page search function of the FC 2 MANUAL, you think I only use the manual to look at the purrty pictures ?

 

Yes I RTFM, I have been flying FC1 since the day it came out and lockon for a few years before that, thus I knew something was up when doing the same thing in FC2 didnt fire the Vihkrs, even with the LA showing and the laser turned on and the Override enabled and the trigger HELD down, it still wouldnt fire unless I went into salvo mode.

 

But regardless, the problem was fixed with a reinstall, and so was my other problems fixed, one being that my taskbar would constantly try to force its way onto the game Menu GUI and the ingame sound is now fixed, before it would go all high pitched when changing views and only by quickly jumping back into the cockpit view would the sound return to normal.

 

So as far as I can tell, everything is now as it should be.

 

Thanks to those who tried to help figure it out, mucho gracias.

[Ike4fin]

Do you have to keep the circle around target also after firing?

Because sometimes it seems that the vikhrs go haywire just randomly.

 

In Black shark the vikhrs seems to work much better.

[Breakshot]

I take it that you missed the part where I link to Page 72 or page 84 if you use the Adobe page search function of the FC 2 MANUAL, you think I only use the manual to look at the purrty pictures ?

 

Yes I RTFM, I have been flying FC1 since the day it came out and lockon for a few years before that, thus I knew something was up when doing the same thing in FC2 didnt fire the Vihkrs, even with the LA showing and the laser turned on and the Override enabled and the trigger HELD down, it still wouldnt fire unless I went into salvo mode.

 

But regardless, the problem was fixed with a reinstall, and so was my other problems fixed, one being that my taskbar would constantly try to force its way onto the game Menu GUI and the ingame sound is now fixed, before it would go all high pitched when changing views and only by quickly jumping back into the cockpit view would the sound return to normal.

 

So as far as I can tell, everything is now as it should be.

 

Thanks to those who tried to help figure it out, mucho gracias.

 

Well, in that case i take back to what i said above... my bad... :)

 

Glad u got it sorted out then... So what exactly was the problem? Just a corrupt install? odd...

Edited May 28, 2010 by Breakshot

[RIPTIDE]

RIPTIDE is right, that is probably the problem OP is experiencing. If you turn laser on manually before firing Vikhrs, you cant fire it.

Almost... you can still fire it if you turn in on manually beforehand.. but there's no need to. :)