ED Team JimMack Posted June 11, 2010 ED Team Share Posted June 11, 2010 (edited) The tactical map is finally ready for purchase from Monday 14th June 2010! The scale is 1:500,000 The total size is 1050mm x 1400mm, and is folded to the size of 210mm x 280mm. The cost is £15.99 and initially will be available from http://fighter-collection.com/pages/tfc/flight%20simulation/index.php Hopefully it will soon become available from specialist sites such as Amazon, Simware and GoGamer etc. Postage and packing will be extra. Shipped from the UK, we estimate the average costs to be: Europe £3.77 Rest of the World £5.71 Course bearings: The Geo Grid (which should be taken as a reference to measure courses with plotter or protractor) will give “True” headings, and the average “magnetic declination” for this region is -5 degrees, meaning that you have to subtract 5 degrees from the measured heading on the map in order to get the magnetic heading for your flight. For those who require greater accuracy, the attachment shows the magnetic declination across the whole map. Of course a map is useless unless you can draw on it and then erase! I have tested 2 techniques:- Apply thin self adhesive film (i.e. http://www.paperstone.co.uk/cat_1-36_Self-Adhesive-Film.aspx) Being lazy, I tried to cover the map in one pass. DO NOT DO THIS. The map crinkles as you apply the film and ends up as a mess! The best strategy is to apply small areas (say 210mm x 280mm or 420mm x 560mm) with a slight overlap. It is a 2 person operation, one to hold the map and the other to apply the film (I used the edge of a ruler). I strongly advise that you practice on any large piece of paper before laminating your tactical map so that you find a correct procedure. The second option is to apply something like map seal (http://www.dailyhiker.com/gear/review-aquaseal-map-seal/) The instructions are that you should allow it to cure for 72 hours. They are correct. I tried writing on it after 24 hours with unfortunate results! The advantage of map seal is that it is very easy to apply. However I am not so certain about the durability of frequent writing and erasing on the surface. I tested on the surfaces with:- • Non permanent markers • Wet eraze chalk markers • Lumocolour Whiteboard markers • Pilot markers (erase by rubbing) All worked well on the film. Pilot markers seem to work best on map seal. To erase I used whiteboard cleaner or a damp cloth for markers that were water soluble. Personally I will continue to use film, which although takes time and care by 2 persons to apply, gives a foolproof long lasting result to write on and erase. For those squadrons that have a standard bullseye for missions, you can of course mark up the bullseye before applying film or map seal. Last but not least, greatest thanks go to Igormk who spent many dedicated months in producing this map. For those with access to large scale printers, the map will be available as a free download from the DCS download section. Edited June 11, 2010 by JimMack 5 Having problems? Visit http://en.wiki.eagle.ru/wiki/Main_Page Dell Laptop M1730 -Vista- Intel Core 2 Duo T7500@2.2GHz, 4GB, Nvidia 8700MGT 767MB Intel i7 975 Extreme 3.2GHZ CPU, NVidia GTX 570 1.28Gb Pcie Graphics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comieodor Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 Excellent news. Can't wait to get my hands on the downloadable file. Huge praise to the guys who put this together. 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate--IRL-- Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 Awesome news, thanks Jim, I'll be ordering as soon at it is available. Nate 1 Ka-50 AutoPilot/stabilisation system description and operation by IvanK- Essential Reading Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spetz Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 Excellent !! Much difference from the older map you had for DL ? I printed that out and use it ALOT... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winz Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 Excellent. You don't often see this kind of company dedication for a user made initiative.:thumbup: And big thanks to Igormk. 1 The Valley A-10C Version Revanche for FC 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
159th_Royalman Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 Brilliant! I've been waiting for this for a long time! Thanks to all who made this possible! 1 159th Guards Aviation Regiment | We fly Su33 - Su25T - Ka50 :pilotfly: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team JimMack Posted June 11, 2010 Author ED Team Share Posted June 11, 2010 Excellent !! Much difference from the older map you had for DL ? I printed that out and use it ALOT... Much more detailed, see http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=50869&highlight=500%2C000 Having problems? Visit http://en.wiki.eagle.ru/wiki/Main_Page Dell Laptop M1730 -Vista- Intel Core 2 Duo T7500@2.2GHz, 4GB, Nvidia 8700MGT 767MB Intel i7 975 Extreme 3.2GHZ CPU, NVidia GTX 570 1.28Gb Pcie Graphics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igormk Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 Excellent !! Much difference from the older map you had for DL ? I printed that out and use it ALOT... Here is the approximate list of changes made since the first version: http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=883600&postcount=98 http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=894497&postcount=132 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axion Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 Looking forward to my delivery. :) Asus Z390 Code XI, i9-9900K, RAM 32 Gig Corsair Vengeance @ 3200, RTX 2080 TI FE, TIR 5, Samsung 970 EVO 1TB, HOTAS WH, ASUS ROG Swift PG279Q, HTC Vive Pro, Win 10 x64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoky Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 I'm confused. If we purchase do we get the map shown on the website: http://fighter-collection.com/images/map2.jpg Or the one from the original thread: http://i896.photobucket.com/albums/ac170/ickorov/1.jpg ? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igormk Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 I'm confused. If we purchase do we get the map shown on the website: http://fighter-collection.com/images/map2.jpg Or the one from the original thread: http://i896.photobucket.com/albums/ac170/ickorov/1.jpg ? Thanks Smoky, the picture shown on the Fighter Collection web is just a cover for the folded map. The map looks like in the original thread. I'm uploading high resolution png map in this moment, and as soon as the upload is finished I will post it, and then it will be clearer. 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bnepethomas Posted June 11, 2010 Share Posted June 11, 2010 Thanks for the work put into this guys. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoky Posted June 12, 2010 Share Posted June 12, 2010 Smoky, the picture shown on the Fighter Collection web is just a cover for the folded map. The map looks like in the original thread. I'm uploading high resolution png map in this moment, and as soon as the upload is finished I will post it, and then it will be clearer. Thx!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boulund Posted June 12, 2010 Share Posted June 12, 2010 (edited) Fantastic! Great thanks to ED/TFC and igormk! Edited June 12, 2010 by Boulund 1 Core i5-760 @ 3.6Ghz, 4GB DDR3, Geforce GTX470, Samsung SATA HDD, Dell UH2311H 1920x1080, Saitek X52 Pro., FreeTrack homemade cap w/ LifeCam VX-1000, Windows 7 Professional x64 SP1. FreeTrack in DCS A10C (64bit): samttheeagle's headtracker.dll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
104th_Crunch Posted June 12, 2010 Share Posted June 12, 2010 ...For those with access to large scale printers, the map will be available as a free download from the DCS download section. Thanks Igormk, ED and TFC! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasserfall Posted June 12, 2010 Share Posted June 12, 2010 Available as a free download? that's nice. Our company's printer goes up tp 74" :) Intel Core i5-9600K, Gigabyte Z390 AORUS PRO, 16GB Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro, Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2080 WINDFORCE 8G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUMAR Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 Hi, JimMack! In FC2 I've noticed, that maps from mission builder and from F10 view are not the same. I mean map from mission builder is rotated a bit, relatively to F10 view. So, does it match to map from F10 view or to MB map? Thanks. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Реальные хотелки к ЛО3 по Су-25 в основном... ASRock PG9, i-5 9600KF, MSI 2080Ti, 32GB 3466 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team JimMack Posted June 13, 2010 Author ED Team Share Posted June 13, 2010 Hi, JimMack! In FC2 I've noticed, that maps from mission builder and from F10 view are not the same. I mean map from mission builder is rotated a bit, relatively to F10 view. So, does it match to map from F10 view or to MB map? Thanks. The printed map matches the F10 view. Having problems? Visit http://en.wiki.eagle.ru/wiki/Main_Page Dell Laptop M1730 -Vista- Intel Core 2 Duo T7500@2.2GHz, 4GB, Nvidia 8700MGT 767MB Intel i7 975 Extreme 3.2GHZ CPU, NVidia GTX 570 1.28Gb Pcie Graphics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igormk Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 In FC2 I've noticed, that maps from mission builder and from F10 view are not the same. I mean map from mission builder is rotated a bit, relatively to F10 view. So, does it match to map from F10 view or to MB map? The printed map matches the F10 view. If may I add, Visually the map looks like the one in the Mission Editor. But you know there is a difference with coordinates in ME and F10 (in-game). Now, since it is more important that coordinates taken from the map are identical with the one from the F10 view (which is identical with the coordinates from ABRIS or PVI-800), the grid on the map is adjusted to match F10 view. That means that if you take coordinates from the map and enter it to your PVI-800 (or ABRIS) you will get the same position. To take out course bearings, I quote Jim’s instructions from the first post: “The Geo Grid (which should be taken as a reference to measure courses with plotter or protractor) will give “True” headings, and the average “magnetic declination” for this region is -5 degrees, meaning that you have to subtract 5 degrees from the measured heading on the map in order to get the magnetic heading for your flight. For those who require greater accuracy, the attachment shows the magnetic declination across the whole map.” You will have to take this into account also if you draw bullseye before lamination. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ells228 Posted June 14, 2010 Share Posted June 14, 2010 Excellent work IgorMK. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squid_DK Posted June 14, 2010 Share Posted June 14, 2010 Just ordered a copy. looking forward to having the map. Staffan http://www.ipms.dk i7 9700K, Asus Z390 Prime A, Be Quiet Dark Rock Pro 4, GeForce RTX 2080 Ti STRIX ROG, Fractal Design Define R6, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS, MFG Crosswind, Oculus Rift S. 32 GB 3200 MHz RAM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sov13t Posted June 14, 2010 Share Posted June 14, 2010 Ordered. Thanks, hope it doesn't take too long to ship across the pond. :thumbup: Now will search for a place that will laminate something this big. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 51st PVO Regiment | Forum | Statistics DCS: MiG-21Bis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taker Posted June 15, 2010 Share Posted June 15, 2010 Good day when you can buy a card in Moscow? "Цензура – это тоже самое, что сказать взрослому мужчине, что он не может есть стейк, потому что его не может прожевать младенец." - Марк Твен. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolts Posted June 15, 2010 Share Posted June 15, 2010 Ordered. Now for a giant laminator! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] i7 9700k | 32gb DDR4 | Geforce 2080ti | TrackIR 5 | Rift S | HOTAS WARTHOG | CH PRO Pedals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemises Posted June 15, 2010 Share Posted June 15, 2010 Hi Jim / Igormk, Does the chart come folded or rolled? Great stuff guys, will be ordering two in the near future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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