DCS A-10C QUESTIONS

[Democrashy]

How do A-10s communicate in bigger operations?

I would expect you would want to be connected to some sort of ground commander or someone who can connect you to ground units in case they spot a SAM over the next hill or something, no?

 

VHF AM seems to be exclusively used to chat with ATCs, VHF FM to JTACs... can they inform you of general ground news? And UHF goes to your own flight. What if you want to coordinate with other flights though? How do you call?

 

What if a ground commander suddenly notices a shit-ton of armour coming across a hill somewhere and wants to send A-10s there... if you're plugged in to your ATC, JTAC and flight then how could they ever tell you?

 

Do the ground guys contact you via UHF (since they know the frequency)?

[GripenNG]

How do A-10s communicate in bigger operations?

I would expect you would want to be connected to some sort of ground commander or someone who can connect you to ground units in case they spot a SAM over the next hill or something, no?

 

VHF AM seems to be exclusively used to chat with ATCs, VHF FM to JTACs... can they inform you of general ground news? And UHF goes to your own flight. What if you want to coordinate with other flights though? How do you call?

 

What if a ground commander suddenly notices a shit-ton of armour coming across a hill somewhere and wants to send A-10s there... if you're plugged in to your ATC, JTAC and flight then how could they ever tell you?

 

Do the ground guys contact you via UHF (since they know the frequency)?

 

Prior to each mission you run through each radio channel during the briefing so you as a flight knows exactly where, when and what freq you are to be at.

 

There is not just one actor on the battlefield - in todays standards everyone should be able to contact anyone within the network. With whom you communicate with depends on the situation. Most likely you are not speaking with your HOB when you are 500 miles away in the AO supporting TIC (its not even able since radio waves have a limited range).

 

Radio discipline are extremely important. A good pilot can easily become a bad pilot if he has no clue on what to say - to who he say it. Obviously there are different communication rules and actors depending on where and what the situation demands.

 

The VHF/UHF radios in DCS are not really that realistic in terms of what radios the actors is on. I would say the most realistic is the ATC on AM - but I suppose that is not always true either in real world operations.

 

The most true answer I´ve learned in aviation from my IP is: It depends! :)

[AtaliaA1]

How do A-10s communicate in bigger operations?

I would expect you would want to be connected to some sort of ground commander or someone who can connect you to ground units in case they spot a SAM over the next hill or something, no?

 

VHF AM seems to be exclusively used to chat with ATCs, VHF FM to JTACs... can they inform you of general ground news? And UHF goes to your own flight. What if you want to coordinate with other flights though? How do you call?

 

What if a ground commander suddenly notices a shit-ton of armour coming across a hill somewhere and wants to send A-10s there... if you're plugged in to your ATC, JTAC and flight then how could they ever tell you?

 

Do the ground guys contact you via UHF (since they know the frequency)?

 

 

In an emergency situation the ground troops would contact JTAC and JTAC would put them in direct contact with the ground troops. assuming the radio frequencies weren't available to the ground troops for some reason.

[shagrat]

Bitter reality seems to be "troops call up chain of command until someone can contact airforce, then airforce goes down chain of command to the pilot/flight lead"

Only if JTAC or other air controller is embedded he may(!) have the frequency list where that flight is listed on.

A decade ago even embedded aircontrollers were rare and the different branches of the armed forces did their own thing without much consulting or communication...

Recently read a nice nook about Operation Anaconda with a good grasp of the planning phase and how they managed nearly f*** up everything. Title is : "Not a good day to die" - Sean Naylor

 

Unbelievable!

[Roger Ramjet]

RWR - Friendly missiles

 

How come my RWR gives me missile warning when my wingman is launching Mavverick?

Does RWR knows that via datalink or it`s some kind of bug?

[MacEwan]

That's the MWS on the A-10. It will track any missile fired in the area even if its not directed at you.

[kontiuka]

It's actually your missile warning system that's giving you a warning, not your RWR. The MWS detects hot exhaust that resembles that of a missile so it has no way of knowing if the missile is friendly or not.

 

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[Roger Ramjet]

That's the MWS on the A-10. It will track any missile fired in the area even if its not directed at you.

 

But how ? I thought it`s just simple Radar Warning Reciever, and Mavs don`t emit anything.And my RMR or MWS doesn`t warn me about manpad launch or any other heatseeker launches.

 

EDIT:

Thanks for replys, kontiuka, i haven`t even seen your post before my reply :D

 

Why then fighters doesn`t have mws for heatseekers? The mws must have very short range?

Edited December 4, 2014 by Roger Ramjet

[kontiuka]

Why then fighters doesn`t have mws for heatseekers? The mws must have very short range?

This is a pure ignorant guess but maybe they wouldn't be as effective on fighters because the amount of heat coming out of the engines of a fighter (compared to the A-10) would mask a missile launch.

[Roger Ramjet]

This is a pure ignorant guess but maybe they wouldn't be as effective on fighters because the amount of heat coming out of the engines of a fighter (compared to the A-10) would mask a missile launch.

 

Thanks mate!

 

Has it ever warned you about the manpad?

For me MWS (not the RMR) only function is giving me a heart attack when my wingmen launching mavs.

[kontiuka]

Has it ever warned you about the manpad?

I know it's warned me against bigger SAMs like Strelas. If it doesn't warn you about MANPADS, maybe that's a bug. Although a MANPAD would have a smaller heat signature. Not sure.

[Roger Ramjet]

I know it's warned me against bigger SAMs like Strelas. If it doesn't warn you about MANPADS, maybe that's a bug. Although a MANPAD would have a smaller heat signature. Not sure.

 

Striela IS a manpad. Thanks!

[shagrat]

If you happen to fly in an sufficient angle to the manpad it gives a launch indication. It does not cover 360* around your A-10C, though. And as for MAVs, first thing you learn in Multiplayer is to call out "Rifle!" whenever launching a MAV... as your mates will hectically evade and give "SAM launch!!!" warnings, until you sheepishly mention that it "may be" was just your Maverick...

Unfortunately AI does not communicate well.

Edited December 4, 2014 by shagrat

[Flagrum]

Thanks mate!

 

Has it ever warned you about the manpad?

For me MWS (not the RMR) only function is giving me a heart attack when my wingmen launching mavs.

Yes, it works for MANPADs, too. But it is not 100% reliable - so don't count on it.

 

Reasons for that (my guesses):

- Limited range of the MWS

- type of missile (amount of exhaust gases & temperature) - a MAV fired from a wingman close nearby produces probably a way bigger IR signature than an Igla from 2 nm in the woods

[shagrat]

Striela IS a manpad. Thanks!

Nope! That would be an IGLA or the Stinger. The only two MANPADs in the SIM currently.

[kontiuka]

Striela IS a manpad. Thanks!

Sorry. I meant the Strela vehicle launch platform.

[specialksl]

Game mode missing target icons

 

I am playing in the game mode and the red target icons aren't showing up. I am using 3 screens. What am I doing wrong? They sometimes show up on the right or left screen but I can see them on the center screen. They show fine if I use only one monitor.

[Mike Busutil]

Shift + F10 will enable and disable to RED / BlUE Icons.

[SilentGun]

probably a silly question but I cant download ricardo's horse of war texture off of lockon files. do I need to make an account or what?

[shagrat]

Yep! Just The usual to block crawlers etc.

[arkroyale048]

Just wondering...

 

Does the A-10's guns actually work on armor ? IRL ? In game ?

[shagrat]

Yes! It was designed for that... and it works if implemented correctly! ...both in game and IRL :D

[arkroyale048]

Well yea... All the video / documentary blurbs I watch about the A-10 tells me that it's gun is the best thing ever to plink down armor (I agree of course)

 

But in game... I've nearly emptied the entire drum on a single tank. Nada smoke.

 

So was wondering...

 

Maybe was just a fluke... Shall retry again....

 

 

 

*Out of topic

 

The Ka-50 has 30mms as well right ? Does that mean I can also use it's guns against armor ?

[shagrat]

Check angle, GUNPAC active, and most important: always attack a tank from the rear! APCs etc. you can kill with a 1 sec burst easiliy, tanks need sometimes more than one pass... currently damage is modeled as "hitpoints" in different areas, so unless hitpoints are completely gone, no effect!

[Zee Pet]

So the Su-27 EOS has laser ranging? How come the LWS on the A-10C doesn't pick it up? If it is a laser, shouldn't it be causing some kind of response; or is it not strong enough/on some undetectable frequency?