Kh-58's are self destructing

[Raven434th]

Anyone out there know why the kh-58 is blowing up soon after launch?I get the LA auth. and its tracking to target then all of a sudden it explodes in mid air.Happens after about 3-4 seconds comming off the rail.This is engageing a roland or gepard(I thought it was the geopard shooting it down,but don't really think it is),is it a bug?:huh:

[Vecko]

You should post track file...

[RIPTIDE]

Anyone out there know why the kh-58 is blowing up soon after launch?I get the LA auth. and its tracking to target then all of a sudden it explodes in mid air.Happens after about 3-4 seconds comming off the rail.This is engageing a roland or gepard(I thought it was the geopard shooting it down,but don't really think it is),is it a bug?:huh:

If somthing else takes out the target, like a previous launch from you or a buddy, the ARM's will self destruct.

[bumfire]

I get that when I lock on EWR, I have to override the system to allow me to fire as you never get LA when locked onto a EWR, but if you fire, the KH blows up soon after.

 

I think that is how ED intended it to be for EWR targets.

 

But, it only happens with EWR, never against other radar targets, so I am not sure why its happening against Rolands and Gepards.

 

Saying that, you are using the wrong missile for killing a roland or gepard with, the 58 is for long range targets, although it should still work, but you would be better using the 25mpu, because you have to be really close to a roland or gepard before their radar becomes active and you can lock them up.

[Raven434th]

I think I know whats happening,the roland and gepard were set close together ,so I was probably locking the gepard when I though it was a roland,the chart in the doc's folder has the gepard in brackets at (12.5) which I assume means it can't be destroyed via the kh-58 or kh-25mpu due too its radar signature/frequences.But I'm guessing here.Seems to me that if I can lock it ,I should be able to kill it???But alot could have happened in the engagement that I never noticed,so who knows.

[Boberro]

You can lock Shilka too. But you can't kill. Frequencies. ;]

[GGTharos]

Your SEAD pod has more hardware and better capability at detecting and locking onto emissions than your missile's seeker.

Missiles, due to space constraints and probably other constraints, have a limited capability to pick up emission sources, so they tend to pick up things that are relatively similar, mostly in the X-Band IIRC (guidance frequencies).

 

EWR is a long-wavelength radar usually and the seeker cannot cope with it. I have not looked up Roland for some time, but that thing also has optical backups which I think are not simulated.

 

In other words, you need to know which missile can kill what and pick your payload accordingly. If you cannot kill it with an ARM, you'll have to use a more traditional guidance approach ;)

 

I think I know whats happening,the roland and gepard were set close together ,so I was probably locking the gepard when I though it was a roland,the chart in the doc's folder has the gepard in brackets at (12.5) which I assume means it can't be destroyed via the kh-58 or kh-25mpu due too its radar signature/frequences.But I'm guessing here.Seems to me that if I can lock it ,I should be able to kill it???But alot could have happened in the engagement that I never noticed,so who knows.