Python Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 I agree FSX is bloated and inefficient. But I have to say, now that the hardware is there to run it well, FSX+Orbx for the NW+ASX (ASA is latest) for weather+SF260 for props or L-39 for jets=very, very nice experience for me. As said above, we will need a replacement though, so I hope X-plane steps up. Is the hardware really here to run FSX on max though?? i brought a decent set up just for FSX and was bitterly dissapointed with the results as most people are, it runs sure, but not on max and not well enough for me to invest in sceneries that would give me the experience i want and risk a slide show though. I was going to replace my Phennom II quad core with an I7 but after watching many video's etc on you tube it seems the I7 doesnt even max FSX with fautless performance? FSX for me is a great idea excecuted poorly. I love it but it drives me mad at times and does need replacing.... or just fixing? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel Jaw Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 They will loose a lot of developers. Probably a lot will shift towards Xplane... I been wishing that for YEARS, like PMDG. "You see, IronHand is my thing" My specs: W10 Pro, I5/11600K o/c to 4800 @1.32v, 64 GB 3200 XML RAM, ASUS RTX3060ti/8GB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron886 Posted September 21, 2010 Share Posted September 21, 2010 I been wishing that for YEARS, like PMDG. May just get your wish. Future is bright, lets just hope Austin realizes the need for the highest quality network code, or we're still stuck at square one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leafer Posted September 22, 2010 Share Posted September 22, 2010 I don't know why but I could never get into x-plane. I tried v. 3 and 5 but they didn't get my sim juice flowing for some reason. That weird UI didn't help either. ED have been taking my money since 1995. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hassata Posted September 22, 2010 Share Posted September 22, 2010 (edited) Is the hardware really here to run FSX on max though?? i brought a decent set up just for FSX and was bitterly dissapointed with the results as most people are, it runs sure, but not on max and not well enough for me to invest in sceneries that would give me the experience i want and risk a slide show though. I was going to replace my Phennom II quad core with an I7 but after watching many video's etc on you tube it seems the I7 doesnt even max FSX with fautless performance? FSX for me is a great idea excecuted poorly. I love it but it drives me mad at times and does need replacing.... or just fixing? Defiantly not max, not even close. But if you want to basically use it as a GA sim (which is good for me), and adjust traffic and other sliders appropriately, and also apply minimal tweaking (mostly the DX9 shader tweak), you can get 60-80 with the SF260 in rural bult up rural areas, and minimum of about 25 in the major metropolitan areas, and this is in weather with 5 layers of clouds as per ASX. Keep in mind, 22 in FSX looks smooth, whereas it was 30+ in FS9. (e8400 @ 4.0, so take that with a grain of salt). Throw in the Carrier freeware add-on, and the VRS F/18 (another full priced 'add=on' lol) for blue water ops where fps is not an issue, and things are looking better for the mil full sys freaks (like myself on good days). Absolutely way too much work and hassle and extra cash for what should be an out of the box experience, but there it is. The crown is easily within X-planes reach, especially in this time window where they look like the last man standing. P.S. FPS limiter (a separate 'hook' type program) is also essential for a decent experience. Edit: I also have REX2. So that's maybe $200+ not counting the the price for FSX and the expansion pack, and not counting the numerous other add-ons I've gone through to get here. If you asked me spend something in the range of $300-500 for the FSX experience I have now, I would have punched you in the face for talking to me like I was stupid. Edited September 22, 2010 by hassata [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolts Posted September 23, 2010 Share Posted September 23, 2010 I'm in Ebay selling mode with my FSX stuff right now. FSX + Acceleration + numerous scenery addons. I’ve been through 3 PC upgrades since it came out and it still runs like crap. The money you have to spend and the effort you have to go through to get a nice FSX experience is absolutely disgraceful and the “out of the box” experience was very inadequate IMO. Saying, “it’s the mods that make it” doesn’t cut it in my book. Fair play to the people with patience and cash to tart it up, but the whole “no one flies the default aircraft” is another nail in an already very magnetic coffin. If its not the default planes or the default scenery or the default weather that people are paying for then what is the bloody point of FSX? The menus? You may as well buy C++ and make your own sim. There is room for a good civilian sim there and I will give XPlane10 a look, for the times when I’m not “going CAS on their ass” in DCS:A-10. Let’s hope the Xplane devs learn from the FSX debacle. Paid mods and add-ons are there to enrich and extend, not take the place of something that should have been there from the start. 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] i7 9700k | 32gb DDR4 | Geforce 2080ti | TrackIR 5 | Rift S | HOTAS WARTHOG | CH PRO Pedals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaman Posted November 7, 2010 Author Share Posted November 7, 2010 X-Plane 10.0 will be released this year! Devs are finalizing the RC build. 51PVO Founding member (DEC2007-) 100KIAP Founding member (DEC2018-) :: Shaman aka [100☭] Shamansky tail# 44 or 444 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 100KIAP Regiment Early Warning & Control officer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhuravlik Posted November 7, 2010 Share Posted November 7, 2010 X-Plane 10.0 will be released this year! Devs are finalizing the RC build. Could you put the link to the news? Thx i7 2600K - ASUS P8P67 - GSKILL RIPJAWS X 8GB CL 7 - NOCTUA NH-D14 GIGABYTE GTX 570@900/1800/2000 - ACCELERO XTREME PLUS SSD OCZ VERTEX II RAID 0 240GB 34NM - XFX 850W BLACK EDITION SB X-FI EXTREME GAMER FANATEC CSW+BMW M3 GT2 RIM+FORMULA RIM - HOTAS COUGAR Ü2 NXT - TRACKIR 5 LIAN LI PC-X1000 - PANASONIC TX-P42VT30E - DELL 2709W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leafer Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 Ever tried the Ka-50? :huh: Yes. I am asking for 'wings' flex. ;) ED have been taking my money since 1995. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolts Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 http://www.x-plane.com/pg_news.html The space shuttle cockpit looks amazing. I wonder if it can handle high altitude JDAM delivery? You would have a significant standoff range advantage as well as being out of all SAM engagement envelopes :lol: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] i7 9700k | 32gb DDR4 | Geforce 2080ti | TrackIR 5 | Rift S | HOTAS WARTHOG | CH PRO Pedals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
some1 Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 And the first thing we can see in the video is a non collimated HUD. :wallbash: Hardware: VPForce Rhino, FSSB R3 Ultra, Virpil T-50CM, Hotas Warthog, Winwing F15EX, Slaw Rudder, GVL224 Trio Throttle, Thrustmaster MFDs, Saitek Trim wheel, Trackir 5, Quest Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaman Posted November 8, 2010 Author Share Posted November 8, 2010 The space shuttle cockpit looks amazing. I wonder if it can handle high altitude JDAM delivery? You would have a significant standoff range advantage as well as being out of all SAM engagement envelopes :lol: And the first thing we can see in the video is a non collimated HUD. :wallbash: X-Plane 9 supports collimated hud. It is addon limitation, not X-plane's. Seriously, if you are looking for Space Shuttle then don't bother with X-plane but get a dedicated sim which is: http://www.space-shuttle-mission.com/ - no addon developer will ever come close to dedicated sim. It is like "DCS quality" of Space Shuttle. 51PVO Founding member (DEC2007-) 100KIAP Founding member (DEC2018-) :: Shaman aka [100☭] Shamansky tail# 44 or 444 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 100KIAP Regiment Early Warning & Control officer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shu77 Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 (edited) I'll buy a copy of X10 when ts out but Im getting more and more dissillusioned that the end product there is the engine and you end up spending more and more to get a decent experience, just simple things like the fact you can make an aircraft do push ups with the landing gear or the lack of decent damage modelling out of the box, Im much happier these days doing touch an goes with my A10 and finding the tires blow or the landing struts bend if I stuff up, lets see how X10 goes though Edited November 8, 2010 by shu77 Hornet, Super Carrier, Warthog & (II), Mustang, Spitfire, Albatross, Sabre, Combined Arms, FC3, Nevada, Gulf, Normandy, Syria AH-6J i9 10900K @ 5.0GHz, Gigabyte Z490 Vision G, Cooler Master ML120L, Gigabyte RTX3080 OC Gaming 10Gb, 64GB RAM, Reverb G2 @ 2480x2428, TM Warthog, Saitek pedals & throttle, DIY collective, TrackIR4, Cougar MFDs, vx3276-2k Combat Wombat's Airfield & Enroute Maps and Planning Tools Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
some1 Posted November 10, 2010 Share Posted November 10, 2010 X-Plane 9 supports collimated hud. It is addon limitation, not X-plane's. Seriously, if you are looking for Space Shuttle then don't bother with X-plane but get a dedicated sim which is: http://www.space-shuttle-mission.com/ - no addon developer will ever come close to dedicated sim. It is like "DCS quality" of Space Shuttle. I know that, but it shows the "quality" and "attention to details" in the product they advertise. Ah well, same story as in FSX. But in FSX you can at least find plenty of high quality payware models, which are very rare in Xplane. Maybe it will change with the X10 version, but I seriously doubt that. Hardware: VPForce Rhino, FSSB R3 Ultra, Virpil T-50CM, Hotas Warthog, Winwing F15EX, Slaw Rudder, GVL224 Trio Throttle, Thrustmaster MFDs, Saitek Trim wheel, Trackir 5, Quest Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluepilot76 Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 (edited) I hope X10 is good, twice now I have been swayed by the X-hype, and twice very dissapointed. The world just seems so dead. Its like after some sort of epidemic has wiped out 99% of the population. Hard to take it seriously when a hot air balloon is floating across your major international airport. I also hate how nearly all of the cockpits are just panels. Look to far down and you can see the ground. Its just a panel floating in mid air. Got the good helicopter addon, looks amazing, but its just boring because the world is so dead. Awfull ATC chat in the background too. Its on a loop. has nothing to do with whats going on around you. The only active ATC speaks through a voice box. I wont be fooled again, as for wing flex. well, you should not be looking a the wings when your landing, I really couldnt care less! Give me some Traffic! Edited June 16, 2011 by bluepilot76 Technical Specs: Asus G73JW gaming laptop... i7-740QM 1.73GHz ... GTX460m 1.5GB ... 8GB DDR5 RAM ... Win7 64 ... TIR5 ... Thrustmaster T16000m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conure Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 I hope X10 is good, twice now I have been swayed by the X-hype, and twice very dissapointed. The world just seems so dead. Its like after some sort of epidemic has wiped out 99% of the population. Hard to take it seriously when a hot air balloon is floating across your major international airport. I also hate how nearly all of the cockpits are just panels. Look to far down and you can see the ground. Its just a panel floating in mid air. Got the good helicopter addon, looks amazing, but its just boring because the world is so dead. Awfull ATC chat in the background too. Its on a loop. has nothing to do with whats going on around you. The only active ATC speaks through a voice box. I wont be fooled again, as for wing flex. well, you should not be looking a the wings when your landing, I really couldnt care less! Give me some Traffic! I've not tried X-Plane - Am waiting on number X. I reckon with the FS team out the way and with Flight looking to cater to ....Well I'm not sure who they're hoping to pull in with it...Anyway...Hopefully the high quality addons (GEx, REX, MytrafficX, PMDG etc etc) will make the move to X-plane, and in a year or so after release we'll have the most advanced commercial flight sim available. That would be lovely :) Intel i7 6700k, Asus GTX1070, 16gb DDR4 @ 3200mhz, CH Fighterstick, CH Pro Throttle, CH Pro Rudder Pedals, Samsung Evo 850 SSD @ 500GB * 2, TrackIR 5 and 27" monitor running at 2560 * 1440, Windows 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shu77 Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 (edited) X-plane does some stuff quite well, as does FSX. My challenge with both is that they are somewhat the modern equivalent of a scale train set. *Most* (not all) people that use FSX are more interested in how it looks then whether it flies accurately. You get people spending huge amounts of time creating detailed models of military aircraft for the sake of being able to look at the external renders. The systems aren't accurate, the performance isnt accurate, and they cant drop ordnance, a'model train set' if you will. {Edit} will probably keep my rant to myself. I have to say I will most likely buy XP10 but dont like where the community for that product is at. Edited June 16, 2011 by shu77 No ones probably interested in my opinion... Hornet, Super Carrier, Warthog & (II), Mustang, Spitfire, Albatross, Sabre, Combined Arms, FC3, Nevada, Gulf, Normandy, Syria AH-6J i9 10900K @ 5.0GHz, Gigabyte Z490 Vision G, Cooler Master ML120L, Gigabyte RTX3080 OC Gaming 10Gb, 64GB RAM, Reverb G2 @ 2480x2428, TM Warthog, Saitek pedals & throttle, DIY collective, TrackIR4, Cougar MFDs, vx3276-2k Combat Wombat's Airfield & Enroute Maps and Planning Tools Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impact Posted June 16, 2011 Share Posted June 16, 2011 I rather stay with DCS. PEW PEW!!! ------=:: I FLY BLEIFREI ::=------ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BKLronin Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 Hopefully the high quality addons (GEx, REX, MytrafficX, )MDG etc etc) will make the move to X-plane, REX and Carenado already made it into the X-plane world. :) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel Jaw Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 Got FSux. Got XP9. XP9 sux donkey balls for many reasons. FSux has hideous FPS and a tendancy to CTD. "You see, IronHand is my thing" My specs: W10 Pro, I5/11600K o/c to 4800 @1.32v, 64 GB 3200 XML RAM, ASUS RTX3060ti/8GB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bart86pl Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 I have both FSX and XP9, but honestly XP sim is 'never ending beta' imo, and it can be very frustrating sometimes. FSX plus REX and some good planes from Carenado or Aerosoft and I`m happy. But not as happy as in Warthog :D [sIGPIC]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic73792_1.gif [/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andysim Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 I just found the wonderfullly complex little GA aircraft (the Katana Da-20 Diamond) and can honestly say its changed the way I look at FSX forever. I was not a big fan of GA in FSX even though I fly alot of time in Orbx scenery areas (PNW/Northern Fjords etc). If you have ever wondered what it would be like to own a real aircraft this is for you!. It will get dirty as you use it, and will need cleaning which you can do. Engine parts will wear out after a time, oil will be used, you can stress the aircraft and break it needing a trip to the maintance guys. All the wear and tear and fuel use is saved from one flight to the next so your aircraft is persistant (a bit like the A2A Accusim do) The engine will even wear faster when using Avgas instead of the recommended Unleaded fuel. Heck there is even an annoying fly that can sometimes been seen crawling around the cockpit. I would say without a second thought that this aircraft is on par with any GA outhere and is of a quality even A2A would be happy with. :pilotfly: Ok sorry when off topic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGTharos Posted June 30, 2011 Share Posted June 30, 2011 The real life Katana DA-20 is one of the most awesome little planes around. Too bad it costs a quarter million buckaroos! :P It isn't complex at all, either. For the most part it's stick ... not even stick, rudder and throttle. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom88 Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 New X-Plane 10 Default 747 Preview video Patrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hassata Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 That's damn impressive and all, and I understand it's porn for the Heavy fans, but what the hell do all those rows of seats and the friggin toilet paper dispenser in the economy lavatory do me? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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