eedenn Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 Hi guys im trying to sort out a computer for myself for A-10. Im not much of a techie with this stuff so i need some help to know whether this is good enough: Build My Dell Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium 64bit (English) Intel® Core™ i7-640UM Processor(1.20Ghz, 4 Threads, turbo boost up to 2.26GHz, 4M cache) 8GB Dual Channel 1333MHz DDR3 SDRAM (2 X 4GB) (1333MHz Memory operates at 800MHz) 320GB 7200RPM Hard Drive Also Includes 11.6" WideHD 720p WLED (1366x768) Display Integrated 1.3 mega pixel web cam 1GB GDDR3 NVIDIA® GeForce® GT 335M thanks much eedenn Intel i7-980X 6GB 2000MHz DDR3 Windows 7 Home premium 64bit GTX560TI 1GB DDR5 Single Monitor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGTharos Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 No. Stop skiimping on stuff and get a real processor, like an i7-2600 :P The one you chose would dissapoint you. The screen you chose is also um ... well, a bit on the low end. The Graphics card too. Get a 560Ti or equivalent. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeJay82 Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 id say no... cause its a laptop... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGTharos Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 Ah, I didn't realize it was a laptop. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EtherealN Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 Hm. Are you specifically looking for something that is extremely portable? Most of those components appear aimed for ultraportable and battery-oriented use, and that makes you do a lot of sacrifices for the money. It would run the product, but like GG said - there are things there that are a bit on the lower end, especially the GPU is a component I would worry about. Could you indicate your style of use? Like, how much do you travel with it and so on? Because for similar budgets you should be able to get much more powerful things even if you choose a laptop instead of a stationary computer. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Daniel "EtherealN" Agorander | Даниэль "эфирныйн" Агорандер Intel i7 2600K @ 4.4GHz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600MHz, ASUS GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1GB, Samsung 830series 512GB SSD, Corsair AX850w, two BENQ screens and TM HOTAS Warthog DCS: A-10C Warthog FAQ | DCS: P-51D FAQ | Remember to read the Forum Rules | | | Life of a Game Tester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGTharos Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 And an 11.6" screen ... um. I'd say forget it and get a real computer for this sim ... O.o [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EtherealN Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 TeeJay, even for laptops there are certainly stronger alternatives, especially for the GPU. The 460M is a pretty good choice in that department, for example. The 335M ... well no. Not quite the best choice for something that'll run games. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Daniel "EtherealN" Agorander | Даниэль "эфирныйн" Агорандер Intel i7 2600K @ 4.4GHz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600MHz, ASUS GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1GB, Samsung 830series 512GB SSD, Corsair AX850w, two BENQ screens and TM HOTAS Warthog DCS: A-10C Warthog FAQ | DCS: P-51D FAQ | Remember to read the Forum Rules | | | Life of a Game Tester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrongHarm Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 (edited) If I might suggest, try the Dell Outlet. They have scratch and dent systems that are very reasonable. These are refurbished systems, but most of the systems they sell are just computers that were sent back for reasons such as: * Company ordered 50 but only needed 48 * Kid thinks it's a lemon because he caused a blue screen * Grandma got a virus Before they send these systems out they go through them with a fine toothed comb. In my expert opinion (18yrs and 3 manufacturers) you're more likely to get a good working system from the outlet than from the assembly line. I've had a XPS720 for three years. With a few inexpensive upgrades, I'm running DCS at full settings. High end example Mid range example EDIT: Sorry someone just bought the high end example I posted. They go pretty quick. I would suggest calling the sales office and telling them you're looking for a refurb for high end gaming. The agent will watch for you and contact you when it comes in so you can purchase it. They sometimes even have Alienware systems for less than $1000. I would give him the recommended specs for DCS:A-10 and let him work it out. Do get a second opinion though. Oh.. and btw.. I defer to advice of EtherealN and GGTharos. Edited February 9, 2011 by StrongHarm 1 It's a good thing that this is Early Access and we've all volunteered to help test and enhance this work in progress... despite the frustrations inherent in the task with even the simplest of software... otherwise people might not understand that this incredibly complex unfinished module is unfinished. /light-hearted sarcasm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EtherealN Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 "You must spread some reputation around before giving it to StrongHarm again." :D I get 404's on the links tho. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Daniel "EtherealN" Agorander | Даниэль "эфирныйн" Агорандер Intel i7 2600K @ 4.4GHz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600MHz, ASUS GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1GB, Samsung 830series 512GB SSD, Corsair AX850w, two BENQ screens and TM HOTAS Warthog DCS: A-10C Warthog FAQ | DCS: P-51D FAQ | Remember to read the Forum Rules | | | Life of a Game Tester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrongHarm Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 Ack.. both systems were sold. Here's a link to the Dell Outlet Gaming Systems section. It's a good thing that this is Early Access and we've all volunteered to help test and enhance this work in progress... despite the frustrations inherent in the task with even the simplest of software... otherwise people might not understand that this incredibly complex unfinished module is unfinished. /light-hearted sarcasm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eedenn Posted February 9, 2011 Author Share Posted February 9, 2011 wow! thanks for the quick replies to everyone! you guys are certainly on the ball! To answer some questions first: i do travel a lot (airline pilot), but i dont intend to take the gaming computer with me. traditionally we're all mac'd out in the house, and even though my macbook pro ran black shark fine, it cant and wont handle the likes of A-10! However, since i have close to no idea about configuring gaming computers (or computers in general) and since i cant spend a load of dough on a computer just for gaming, ive just had a look at some of the dell desktops. Ill post the specs below. I live in hong kong, so really it should be quite easy to get a computer built from scratch, but i fear being ripped off (as a foreigner living here) by the local computer know-it-alls and the computer centers in town. Anyways, here is what i had a look at: Build My Dell Intel® Core™ i7-960 Processor (3.2GHz, 8MB) Dell™ ST2320L 23"W HD Monitor with WLED 6GB Tri-Channel DDR3 SDRAM at 1333MHz - 3 DIMMs(3X2GB) 1TB SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive with Native Command Queuing McAfee® SecurityCenter™ (Multi Language) - 30 days Single Drive:16X DVD+/-RW with Dual Layer Write 1GB ATI® Radeon HD 5770 Accessorise My Dell Microsoft® Office Starter 2010 (Multi-Language) No Speaker Dell™ Studio™ Multimedia Keyboard Black Also Includes Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium 64bit Multi language please do tell me what you think, i can keep looking, but im quite impatient to get to playing A10 already! As per the comments, im staying away from laptops now... eedenn Intel i7-980X 6GB 2000MHz DDR3 Windows 7 Home premium 64bit GTX560TI 1GB DDR5 Single Monitor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Udat Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 (edited) The graphics card is still a bit on the weak side AFAIK. Trade it for a gtx 560ti, preferably the Gigabyte superclocked version. But make sure your powersupply can take it. Why not order the parts separately and build it yourself? I did that myself for the first time and it was not a problem at all. You can save a ton of money that way. Edit: That processor is pretty expensive. You will get better performance from a i7 2600k at half the price. Edited February 9, 2011 by Udat Intel i7-950 @stock, Asus P6X58D-E, 3x4GB Corsair Vengeance, Asus GTX 580, Corsair 120GB SSD, Corsair HX 750W PSU [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zakobi Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 Beside saving money, it will also make problem pinpointing easier, as you usual learn a bit on how PCs work when building yourself. You said you got other computers laying around, so to me it seems that if a problem occours and you don't know how to fix you got a back-up with internet connection for all trouble shooting help :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDR Spectre Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 How about this for a Desktop I bought last month? Intel Core i7-870 @ 2.93 GHz 8 GB DDR3 1 GB Nvidia GeForce 315 21.5in widescreen HD monitor Ought to be good yes? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] It's not the fall that gets you. It's the Godawful sudden stop at the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGTharos Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 The graphics card is weak. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrongHarm Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 Why not order the parts separately and build it yourself? I did that myself for the first time and it was not a problem at all. You can save a ton of money that way. I'm an old man and have been building my own systems since hard drives were tape recorders. I would have agreed with you 5 years ago, but these days you can't compete with Dell. I have a refurb that I got at about 25% cost that has all stock parts except for the power supply and case. I've had 3 corsair memory and one intel CPU failure that were covered under warranty. I've had the system for about three years and purchased another 3yr warranty for $75. When this box gets set aside as a Teamspeak server or something, it will keep running under their dollar. That's hard to beat. Concerning the vid card, I too would suggest a 5 series GTX. Don't get the 4 series.. if you do some research you'll find that they're the same price as the 5 series. nVidia made some mistakes with the 4 series.. which they quickly covered. It's a good thing that this is Early Access and we've all volunteered to help test and enhance this work in progress... despite the frustrations inherent in the task with even the simplest of software... otherwise people might not understand that this incredibly complex unfinished module is unfinished. /light-hearted sarcasm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eedenn Posted February 10, 2011 Author Share Posted February 10, 2011 Finally went out and got one together... thanks for everyones help eedenn Intel i7-980X 6GB 2000MHz DDR3 Windows 7 Home premium 64bit GTX560TI 1GB DDR5 Single Monitor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGTharos Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 Nice spec :) WHy the i7-980x instead of a 2600 though? Only 5% less performance for 30% of the cost ... [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Udat Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 Great! Let us know how it works out for you.. As GG said, you could have saved a lot of money on going for an i7 2600k or i7 950.. Would have opened up enough money to SLI that GPU and get you 2 extra monitors. Intel i7-950 @stock, Asus P6X58D-E, 3x4GB Corsair Vengeance, Asus GTX 580, Corsair 120GB SSD, Corsair HX 750W PSU [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eedenn Posted February 10, 2011 Author Share Posted February 10, 2011 I just le the dude at the computer center figure it out for me. I'm pretty sure I got ripped off, and then there's the language barrier! But hey, here I am ready to go! eedenn Intel i7-980X 6GB 2000MHz DDR3 Windows 7 Home premium 64bit GTX560TI 1GB DDR5 Single Monitor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Udat Posted February 10, 2011 Share Posted February 10, 2011 He he he! Well, It is an insanely capable cpu; I expect the computer will be pretty damn good :) Intel i7-950 @stock, Asus P6X58D-E, 3x4GB Corsair Vengeance, Asus GTX 580, Corsair 120GB SSD, Corsair HX 750W PSU [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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