Nate--IRL-- Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 To Summarise --- -Only affects 6XXX series cards -Only with 11.3 and 11.4 drivers -Only with 1.1.0.7 -Only with HDR on Correct? Nate Ka-50 AutoPilot/stabilisation system description and operation by IvanK- Essential Reading Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoYo Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 Perhaps with another drivers (CCC) of ATI too. The rest is ok. Webmaster of http://www.yoyosims.pl Win 10 64, i9-13900 KF, RTX 4090 24Gb OC, RAM 64Gb Corsair Vengeance LED OC@3600MHz,, 3xSSD+3xSSD M.2 NVMe, Predator XB271HU res.2560x1440 27'' G-sync, Sound Blaster Z + 5.1, TiR5, [MSFS, P3Dv5, DCS, RoF, Condor2, IL-2 CoD/BoX] VR fly only: Meta Quest Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate--IRL-- Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 Perhaps with another drivers (CCC) of ATI too. The rest is ok. Could you test other sets of drivers please? I don't have a 6XXX series card to test this, I'm not sure any testers do. Nate Ka-50 AutoPilot/stabilisation system description and operation by IvanK- Essential Reading Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeemo Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 I believe i had that with older version as well. I'll try to install an older driver. Just to make sure Nate, this isn't a fancy building-reflection-disturbes-eyes feature, right ? :) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustang Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 Just a thought, has anyone tried using the "hdr.fx" file from 1.1.0.6? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loz Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 To Summarise --- -Only affects 6XXX series cards -Only with 11.3 and 11.4 drivers -Only with 1.1.0.7 -Only with HDR on Correct? Nate As far as I can tell all the above is correct. i9 9900x at 5.1 Ghz // ASUS ROG Maximus XI Formula EK Bloc // 64Gb Corsair Vengence 3600Mhz DDR4 Ram // Gigabyte Aorus 3090 Watercooled block//Samsung SM951 M2 x4 SSD // Windows 10 64 Bit //48inch LG48 @ 3840x2160 120Hz//Asus ROG Swift PG35VQ 3440 x 14440 144Hz // TM Warthog HOTAS (Ser. No. 00836) //MFG Crosswind Pedals // TrackIR 5 //Varjo Aero An old pilot is one who remembers when flying was dangerous and sex was safe. My YouTube DCS World Four Screen Videos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeemo Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 ok i am back at 11.2 lets see what that can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeemo Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 (edited) ok after a few testing flights i can say the following : 1. The issue remains the same with catalyst 11.2. I dont want to go back any further in driver versions. 2. The issue definetly is gone with HDR off. ( 2.5. HDR is a real fps killer ;) ) 3. The issue can be seen when flying in urban areas and looking at buildings, at least i think so. One time i think i saw a white square appear over the canopy frame. Hard to tell, as they vanish so quickly. I have an Radeon 6950 which is shader unlocked to a 6970 but no overclock. Had no problems in stress tests so far. No artifacts in any other 3d environments. Temperatures are well ok. I dont believe that that is the source of that ghost squares. Hope that can be adressed, as i like the HDR. ( I dont like the fps impact though lol ) Ready to provide more information as needed, or to do further testing as necessary. EDIT: I render the MFDs as "overlays" on my main screen to use with the TM MFDs. Cockpit Rendering off MFDs is turned of. Do you guys use similar configs ? Edited April 6, 2011 by skeemo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustang Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 (edited) I'll repeat myself :P: has anyone tried exporting the hdr.fx file (C:\Program Files\Eagle Dynamics\DCS A-10C\Bazar\shaders\PostMotionEffect\HDR) from a v1.1.0.6 install? edit: reason why i bring this up, this thread for example http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=67866 i just wonder, why not export an earlier hdr.fx file from an previous version and try it in 1.1.0.7? might just be the cure you 6xxx owners need :) Edited April 6, 2011 by Mustang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loz Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 I'll repeat myself :P: has anyone tried exporting the hdr.fx file (C:\Program Files\Eagle Dynamics\DCS A-10C\Bazar\shaders\PostMotionEffect\HDR) from a v1.1.0.6 install? edit: reason why i bring this up, this thread for example http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=67866 i just wonder, why not export an earlier hdr.fx file from an previous version and try it in 1.1.0.7? might just be the cure you 6xxx owners need :) Sorry for you having to repeat yourself but the problem may be that as we have already patched we don't have the hdr.fx file from 1.1.0.6. Don't know how big it is but if someone can provide it I'll try. i9 9900x at 5.1 Ghz // ASUS ROG Maximus XI Formula EK Bloc // 64Gb Corsair Vengence 3600Mhz DDR4 Ram // Gigabyte Aorus 3090 Watercooled block//Samsung SM951 M2 x4 SSD // Windows 10 64 Bit //48inch LG48 @ 3840x2160 120Hz//Asus ROG Swift PG35VQ 3440 x 14440 144Hz // TM Warthog HOTAS (Ser. No. 00836) //MFG Crosswind Pedals // TrackIR 5 //Varjo Aero An old pilot is one who remembers when flying was dangerous and sex was safe. My YouTube DCS World Four Screen Videos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeemo Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 I tried the one from Mustang's linked topic, which probably is an older one. That didn't resolved the issue with HDR. Also, to repeat myself ;), i am pretty sure that i've seen that anomalies BEFORE patch 1.1.0.7 as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustang Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 That's too bad, i really hope this one can be figured out....i might want to purchase a 6xxx card one day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeemo Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 mhm, they are great cards for the money ! Anyway let's summarise again what we know (Hello Nate :) ) - Could be a AMD 6xxx cars issue (please don't) - Tested with Driver 11.2 - still there - HDR off = issue gone - Tested older hdr.fx - still there - Could be already there before patch 1.1.0.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loz Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 Definitely wasn't there for me before the patch. Sheesh I know I'm going blind with age (LOL) but I wouldn't have missed those flashes. :) i9 9900x at 5.1 Ghz // ASUS ROG Maximus XI Formula EK Bloc // 64Gb Corsair Vengence 3600Mhz DDR4 Ram // Gigabyte Aorus 3090 Watercooled block//Samsung SM951 M2 x4 SSD // Windows 10 64 Bit //48inch LG48 @ 3840x2160 120Hz//Asus ROG Swift PG35VQ 3440 x 14440 144Hz // TM Warthog HOTAS (Ser. No. 00836) //MFG Crosswind Pedals // TrackIR 5 //Varjo Aero An old pilot is one who remembers when flying was dangerous and sex was safe. My YouTube DCS World Four Screen Videos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoYo Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 Any has backup of HDR effect from 1.1.0.6? Id like to try with this... Webmaster of http://www.yoyosims.pl Win 10 64, i9-13900 KF, RTX 4090 24Gb OC, RAM 64Gb Corsair Vengeance LED OC@3600MHz,, 3xSSD+3xSSD M.2 NVMe, Predator XB271HU res.2560x1440 27'' G-sync, Sound Blaster Z + 5.1, TiR5, [MSFS, P3Dv5, DCS, RoF, Condor2, IL-2 CoD/BoX] VR fly only: Meta Quest Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoid1 Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 mhm, they are great cards for the money ! Anyway let's summarise again what we know (Hello Nate :) ) - Could be a AMD 6xxx cars issue (please don't) - Tested with Driver 11.2 - still there - HDR off = issue gone - Tested older hdr.fx - still there - Could be already there before patch 1.1.0.7 Yup! Suffering from the same...:doh: I was so happy to finally get this running on my machine, and initially thought it might just programed "sunlight glint", but it seems to be getting worse the more I play. I never could run 1.1.0.6 because of the load lag issue, but I never saw this in Beta 1, 2, or 3, and not in the 1.1.0 release, using the old GUI hack. System specs below..... ASUS ROG Rampage II, 12GB RAM in triple channel, i7 965e, ATI (ASUS) HD6970, WD VelociRaptors in RAID0, TM Warthog , TM MFD's velcroed to second monitor, running windowed at 1200x2224 with everything on HIGH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoYo Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 So again report with this issue and ATI 6xxx series card. As we see this problem exists when You used this kind of cards (very popular now) and HDR in 1.1.0.7 is ON. Pity :( . If ED do something with this issue of new patch I can test it :). Webmaster of http://www.yoyosims.pl Win 10 64, i9-13900 KF, RTX 4090 24Gb OC, RAM 64Gb Corsair Vengeance LED OC@3600MHz,, 3xSSD+3xSSD M.2 NVMe, Predator XB271HU res.2560x1440 27'' G-sync, Sound Blaster Z + 5.1, TiR5, [MSFS, P3Dv5, DCS, RoF, Condor2, IL-2 CoD/BoX] VR fly only: Meta Quest Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeemo Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 Same here :) Also i am ready for testing any new DCS planes ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XarBat Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 So I assume you guys did the file editing Catalyst AI disable? In another thread someone from ED said it was still enabled if you just did it from the GUI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeemo Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 Interesting. Look what i found here : http://forums.guru3d.com/showpost.php?p=3899903&postcount=18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeemo Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 Update: ok i played around with disabling the catalyst AI which is not so easy in newer CCC versions. I tried it with editing the CCC's profiles XML. I tried it with RadeonPro and setting the AI setting to global off. The problem is still there. On the other hand you never know if your 3D driver settings really are applied and there is no possibility to check that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoYo Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 Interesting. Look what i found here : http://forums.guru3d.com/showpost.php?p=3899903&postcount=18 Right, interesting but for me - I didnt change nothing. Before 1.1.0.7 I havent this issue, after 1.1.0.7 I have = reason, something wrong with 1.1.0.7 and new HDR effect. Drivers of my GPU was to same. Sure, I can tast this F/A-18C Too ;D. Webmaster of http://www.yoyosims.pl Win 10 64, i9-13900 KF, RTX 4090 24Gb OC, RAM 64Gb Corsair Vengeance LED OC@3600MHz,, 3xSSD+3xSSD M.2 NVMe, Predator XB271HU res.2560x1440 27'' G-sync, Sound Blaster Z + 5.1, TiR5, [MSFS, P3Dv5, DCS, RoF, Condor2, IL-2 CoD/BoX] VR fly only: Meta Quest Pro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustang Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 From what i've read http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=332445 simply putting Catalyst AI on High Quality will disable it. Theres a new system introduced in the 11.x series drivers: High Quality = Off (old Cat AI setting) Quality = Low (old Cat AI setting) Performance = High (old Cat AI setting) "The Texture Filtering Quality slider has three settings – High Quality, Quality (default), and Performance. The High Quality setting disables all texture optimizations. The Quality setting enables a trilinear optimization as well as an anisotropic sample optimization, which are designed to have no visible impact on image quality while offering improved performance. The Performance setting enables more aggressive versions of these optimizations that offer further performance improvement, but may have a small impact on image quality. The AMD Radeon HD 6800 series continues to support fully angle invariant anisotropic filtering, and incorporates further improvements in LOD precision relative to the ATI Radeon HD 5000 Series. These image quality benefits come with no additional performance cost and remain enabled at all Texture Filtering Quality settings. When comparing performance and image quality against NVIDIA products, we recommend using the same Texture Filtering Quality setting in the NVIDIA Control Panel to ensure the most direct and fair comparison. However, note that as of this writing NVIDIA products do not offer a comparable anisotropic filtering option with full angle independence. The Surface Format Optimization checkbox allows improved performance in selected games that use 16-bit floating point surfaces for HDR rendering. It is designed to have no discernable effect on image quality, and therefore we recommend it be left enabled at all times." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeemo Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 If you look into the default profile XML there is an Catalyst AI entry. It is set to "enabled" regardless of the settings in the ccc. So it isn't really off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miguelaco Posted April 7, 2011 Share Posted April 7, 2011 Tested with 6950 (not unlocked) and problem persists even with CatalystAI=Off (file edit) and Texture Filtering Quality slider in any position. Confirmed that HDR=off did solve the problem. Agree with you all. HDR is a must have for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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