nomdeplume Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 My usual method for dealing with a waypoint 'in the sky' when I want it on the ground, is just to re-enter its coordinates into the CDU. Normally I switch to L/L so I can just enter the latitude, which tends to be the shortest sequence. Once you do that, it'll set the elevation to whatever ground level happens to be. If you already happen to know what altitude the ground is at, you can just enter it directly of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shu77 Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 Another Great Tutorial Warrior, Thanks very much for your efforts! Hornet, Super Carrier, Warthog & (II), Mustang, Spitfire, Albatross, Sabre, Combined Arms, FC3, Nevada, Gulf, Normandy, Syria AH-6J i9 10900K @ 5.0GHz, Gigabyte Z490 Vision G, Cooler Master ML120L, Gigabyte RTX3080 OC Gaming 10Gb, 64GB RAM, Reverb G2 @ 2480x2428, TM Warthog, Saitek pedals & throttle, DIY collective, TrackIR4, Cougar MFDs, vx3276-2k Combat Wombat's Airfield & Enroute Maps and Planning Tools Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffyd123 Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 leave it to the "X" to de-mystify another confusing thing... rep inbound and thanks ! i7 8700K @ 4.4Ghz, 16G 3200 RAM, Nvidia 1080Ti, T16000 HOTAS, TIR5, 75" DLP Monitor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolts Posted April 16, 2011 Share Posted April 16, 2011 My usual method for dealing with a waypoint 'in the sky' when I want it on the ground, is just to re-enter its coordinates into the CDU. Normally I switch to L/L so I can just enter the latitude, which tends to be the shortest sequence. Once you do that, it'll set the elevation to whatever ground level happens to be. If you already happen to know what altitude the ground is at, you can just enter it directly of course. That's what i was thinking. Once we have the waypoint saved using this bullseye/offset method, we should then be able to edit the waypoint as any other, including the elevation. I think :) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] i7 9700k | 32gb DDR4 | Geforce 2080ti | TrackIR 5 | Rift S | HOTAS WARTHOG | CH PRO Pedals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ranger79 Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 Loving the .pdf help files you are making, thanks a million! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Ranger79 OEF/OIF Veteran YouTube Channel Twitch Channel Mods, Missions, & Tutorials: Operation Piercing Fury Campaign Ranger79's Object Pack ISIS CrisIS Campaign Mission Editing Video Series Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 Thanks for the tutorial. Its the inspiration for the video below. http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1189172&postcount=1 Fish's Flight Sim Videos [sIGPIC]I13700k, RTX4090, 64gb ram @ 3600, superUltraWide 5120x1440, 2560x1440, 1920x1080, Warthog, Tusba TQS, Reverb VR1000, Pico 4, Wifi6 router, 360/36 internet[/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorX Posted May 3, 2011 Author Share Posted May 3, 2011 Thanks for the tutorial. Its the inspiration for the video below. http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1189172&postcount=1 Thanks Fish! enjoyed watching your video! Well done sir! I just posted in that thread! What a coincidence. 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] "Is that you John Wayne?.......Is this me?" Full Metal Jacket //My Mission Data Card//My Cold Start Checklist //Clearing a Hung Store Tutorial //CDU Offset//Asterisk Error Correction Procedure//JTAC UTM Coordinate Entry Tutorial//JTAC 9 Line Lat Long Coordinate Entry Tutorial Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weaponz248 Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 WX...Wow thanks you for that!! As always your tutorials are easy and straight to the point! Bullseye calls will be so easy after this, where was this in falcon 4?? Love it thanks man!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mooshim Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 Thanks to Fish and Warrior X for their helpful contributions. A Quick Q. Would you have a quick word of advice for creating a mission with awacs that would be able to pick out targets? --or is it pretty self-explanatory. Should AWACS have certain paramaters--ie distance from/to tgts? ...I guess I could always try it out myself like an adult... :( Anyway... lol Thanks for any advice, Moosh [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Win7 | Intel Core 2 Quad | Q8400 @ 2.66GHz | 2.67 GHz 3.37GB of RAM 60gig Samsung SSD| GTX 570 "Operation: Bull by the Horns" "Bull Run 2.0" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorX Posted May 11, 2011 Author Share Posted May 11, 2011 Hi Mooshim, First, the AWACS should be calling out only Air targets, we need a JSTAR for movers. I could have sworn in the past I heard the AWACS call out a ground target to me, but either I must be wrong or I was confusing it with another friendly asset's radio call. Other Bluefor units should call out their contacts/targets over their assigned radio freq. Well my best advice is that you need to create a mission with plenty of friendly air assets, and put them all on the same radio frequency. (Like UHF 251.00) F-15E Strike eagles would be good, also AH-64D Apaches. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] "Is that you John Wayne?.......Is this me?" Full Metal Jacket //My Mission Data Card//My Cold Start Checklist //Clearing a Hung Store Tutorial //CDU Offset//Asterisk Error Correction Procedure//JTAC UTM Coordinate Entry Tutorial//JTAC 9 Line Lat Long Coordinate Entry Tutorial Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mooshim Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 WX as usual... You're a gent.. THX Those would never have occurred to me. ~CHEERS [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Win7 | Intel Core 2 Quad | Q8400 @ 2.66GHz | 2.67 GHz 3.37GB of RAM 60gig Samsung SSD| GTX 570 "Operation: Bull by the Horns" "Bull Run 2.0" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorX Posted May 11, 2011 Author Share Posted May 11, 2011 WX as usual... You're a gent.. THX Those would never have occurred to me. ~CHEERS Thanks! glad to help. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] "Is that you John Wayne?.......Is this me?" Full Metal Jacket //My Mission Data Card//My Cold Start Checklist //Clearing a Hung Store Tutorial //CDU Offset//Asterisk Error Correction Procedure//JTAC UTM Coordinate Entry Tutorial//JTAC 9 Line Lat Long Coordinate Entry Tutorial Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skouras Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 very helphul and easy..thank you very much [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]W10(64bit)Asus Rog Strix Z370-F - i7 8700K - Dark Rock Pro 4 - 16 giga ram Corsair vengeance 3000 - MSI RTX 2070 Super - Asus Rog Phobeus soundcard - Z906 Surround speaker - Track ir5 - HOTAS Warthog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doright Posted May 11, 2011 Share Posted May 11, 2011 Wow I really need to work on my presentation skills to get them anywhere near this caliber. Only response I got when I posted about using OSET for bullseye calls (http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1161645&postcount=10) was that's a pretty elaborate solution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mooshim Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 (edited) Hi Mooshim, First, the AWACS should be calling out only Air targets, we need a JSTAR for movers. Other Bluefor units should call out their contacts/targets over their assigned radio freq. Well my best advice is that you need to create a mission with plenty of friendly air assets, and put them all on the same radio frequency. (Like UHF 251.00) F-15E Strike eagles would be good, also AH-64D Apaches. Put up a predator (on AFAC)... --he seems to be calling out UTM coords. Tried to put a strike eagle up there on Recon or AFAC...but it's not allowing me to. (trying to avoid setting it on ground attack so that he'll assign me the work). Will continue to work on it with other air assets so as to get somebody to call out L/L coords...so I can put this thread to work. Thanks for the help. Will put up a miz for others when it's done. EDIT: Hmm... It seems I've misunderstood. Fish seems to call AWACS for a bullseye call. Have implemented AWACS E3 and no joy for targets he flies over. --I DID notice that predator tallies armor with a bullseye call, but gives a UTM Coord nineline. --Bizarre. --Wonder if this is SOP (?) --Not getting discouraged. I'll try this again... ~Moosh Edited May 12, 2011 by mooshim [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Win7 | Intel Core 2 Quad | Q8400 @ 2.66GHz | 2.67 GHz 3.37GB of RAM 60gig Samsung SSD| GTX 570 "Operation: Bull by the Horns" "Bull Run 2.0" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mooshim Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 ...beginning to get discouraged. I'm sure there's something I'm missing. a little help please? THANKS ~Moosh [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Win7 | Intel Core 2 Quad | Q8400 @ 2.66GHz | 2.67 GHz 3.37GB of RAM 60gig Samsung SSD| GTX 570 "Operation: Bull by the Horns" "Bull Run 2.0" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtuckner Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 Nine lines come from JTAC, you won't be getting direction distance from Bullseye from JTAC, grid is more precise. AWACs only calls out other enemy aircraft. If you have predator up and not setup as JTAC and he is overflying targets he may call out their position with the direction distance for you to use the offset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mooshim Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 excellent! ...So set the predator up as...recon? Thanks for the help! I'm so close. :) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Win7 | Intel Core 2 Quad | Q8400 @ 2.66GHz | 2.67 GHz 3.37GB of RAM 60gig Samsung SSD| GTX 570 "Operation: Bull by the Horns" "Bull Run 2.0" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtuckner Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 I haven't made missions in the editor, so under the hood I am not sure sure how it is setup. I would imagine if it just did an orbit over a target rich environment and you are on his frequency you should hear calls. Recon sounds about right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mooshim Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 Nine lines come from JTAC, you won't be getting direction distance from Bullseye from JTAC, grid is more precise. AWACs only calls out other enemy aircraft. If you have predator up and not setup as JTAC and he is overflying targets he may call out their position with the direction distance for you to use the offset. It seems from Fish's vid that he called for awacs... Thanks so much 4 your help BTW Edit: It seems as though bullseye calls are given on command in fish's example...so I'm a bit confused. I DO hear random calls on occasion from a predator set up as afac. Would love to be able to request coords and get them on command. Thanks. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Win7 | Intel Core 2 Quad | Q8400 @ 2.66GHz | 2.67 GHz 3.37GB of RAM 60gig Samsung SSD| GTX 570 "Operation: Bull by the Horns" "Bull Run 2.0" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtuckner Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 Yeah AWACs will generally give bullseye calls to enemy aircraft. That should give you a general idea of what the enemy aircraft are doing. Range and what they are doing in relation to you. It's not practical to do an offset for that. Those are more instinctual calls. The offset is useful when other aircraft see stuff on the ground and that may be what the AWACs was doing, actually flying close enough to see them because as far as I know AWACs has no systems for identifying ground targets other than their eyeballs. The only thing that you can request on the fly from AWACs is picture of enemy aircraft. For using the offset for ground target locations you just need to listen for the calls and jot them down for creating that offset waypoint. If you miss one, you can't radio back to have them resend. I'm pretty new to this too, so if I am wrong, someone please jump in and correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mooshim Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 copy that thanks MTuckner I suppose what we see in Fish's vid is a bug then. THX [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Win7 | Intel Core 2 Quad | Q8400 @ 2.66GHz | 2.67 GHz 3.37GB of RAM 60gig Samsung SSD| GTX 570 "Operation: Bull by the Horns" "Bull Run 2.0" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtuckner Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 He calls for a picture but AWACs says picture is clean at 50 seconds in. Then later, it looks like Uzi calls in the AAA at 2:30 into the video (unless that is a bug where Wizard the AWACs announces himself as Uzi). That wouldn't be AWACs coming back with his requested picture, it is just another allied flight finding that target and making the call. He does request home plate to AWACs which gives him magnetic heading and distance as normal. I hope I am not confused or confusing you. Ultimately, you cannot call AWACs to give you an offset (dir/dist) for ground targets. Those will just be fed to you in real time on the fly by allied flights. That is the summary of how it works. I'll humbly stand corrected if it is different and would welcome to learn otherwise. Nothing worse than dishing out bad info! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mooshim Posted May 12, 2011 Share Posted May 12, 2011 Not at all, sir :) Very helpful. It's 130am here. Got work tomorrow. "Thanks for the work" as it were. ~moosh [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Win7 | Intel Core 2 Quad | Q8400 @ 2.66GHz | 2.67 GHz 3.37GB of RAM 60gig Samsung SSD| GTX 570 "Operation: Bull by the Horns" "Bull Run 2.0" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mooshim Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 I thought I'd put this mission up for others to practice what's happening here. Thanks to Warrior X and Fish for the inspiration. This is a Low to Medium difficulty mission. http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=74111 Opportunity to practice Bullseye Calls coords entry into OSET page of the CDU. Opportunity to practice searching for targets with TGP. Opportunity to practice refueling if thirsty. Opportunity to get coordinates from AFAC (if frustrated with Bullseye calls). 2 Mavs 4 CBUs Seven Targets Bullseye calls come approximately every 7 minutes. AWACS is available to provide directions to KC 135 for refueling. It's a simple mission...Wheels up at sundown. Hope it's fun. It's my first contribution. Inspired by FISH's video instruction re: OFFSET coord Entry. Cheers, Moosh P.S. Would really welcome a suggestion or two to improve. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Win7 | Intel Core 2 Quad | Q8400 @ 2.66GHz | 2.67 GHz 3.37GB of RAM 60gig Samsung SSD| GTX 570 "Operation: Bull by the Horns" "Bull Run 2.0" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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