Yuya6104 Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 (edited) Must say hearing this interveiw about american F-22 spoils and takeingthe fun out of being a pilot.. americans might well make robot pilots instead of human pilots since not interested in pilot.. seems their more interested in the high-tech plane since pretty much fly it self.. At least Russia hasnt went there least in High Tech role but they belive in the pilot and the aircraft but giving pilot full use the plane an control sufices.. even my country not interested in the pilots an planes they fly most our planes not coumputer controled all they pilot doing all the work not the plane... Edited April 19, 2011 by Yuya6104 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mvsgas Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 (edited) I'm not sure if I understand. Flyby wire aircraft are all over the world and even civilian aircraft. The F-16 is used by many countries and the pilot is not in full control of the flying surfaces, he is just part of the decision making. Airbus, Dassault, Sukhoi, RAC MIG, etc all have Fly by wire aircraft. Edited April 19, 2011 by mvsgas To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilotasso Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 I think fly-by-wire is vastly misunderstood. It doesn't replace the pilot it just gives him the ability to fly his airframe to its maximum while preventing departure. before pilots would have to limit the aircraft themselves or discard certain practices. [sigpic]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic4448_29.gif[/sigpic] My PC specs below:Case: Corsair 400C PSU: SEASONIC SS-760XP2 760W Platinum CPU: AMD RYZEN 3900X (12C/24T) RAM: 32 GB 4266Mhz (two 2x8 kits) of trident Z RGB @3600Mhz CL 14 CR=1T MOBO: ASUS CROSSHAIR HERO VI AM4 GFX: GTX 1080Ti MSI Gaming X Cooler: NXZT Kraken X62 280mm AIO Storage: Samsung 960 EVO 1TB M.2+6GB WD 6Gb red HOTAS: Thrustmaster Warthog + CH pro pedals Monitor: Gigabyte AORUS AD27QD Freesync HDR400 1440P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sobek Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 before pilots would have to limit the aircraft themselves or discard certain practices. Not to mention that some designs wouldn't be flyable without FBW. Good, fast, cheap. Choose any two. Come let's eat grandpa! Use punctuation, save lives! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sov13t Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 before pilots would have to limit the aircraft themselves or discard certain practices. Or the aircraft simply couldn't do anything that would threaten either the aircraft or the pilot due to input by the pilot. P.S.: Unfortunately a lot of individuals are misinformed on this subject and feel that FBW is present only in the western airframes. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 51st PVO Regiment | Forum | Statistics DCS: MiG-21Bis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mvsgas Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 Do you guys understand what Yuya6104 is trying to say? To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikoyan Posted April 19, 2011 Share Posted April 19, 2011 The russians are using flight by wire too; some argue that it is not as advanced as for example the superhornet and f-22. I don't think that there is a way to make a mechanically operated f-22; why? for example if you look at the videos of the f-22 airhows you can see that when it turns the flaps go down depending on the aoa of speed; and they don't just go from up and down; the computers measures how much flap needs to be applied to give best performance; imagine if the pilot had to do that manually? Also what about those cool post stall maneuvers; the airplane would depart or flip if the pilot had to control it manually; you can tell for example when it does a tail slide; all the surfaces move to prevent a spin; imagine if you had to do it yourself. The raptor also uses the rudders to aid the pitch; I find hard to imagine how complex would be to produce the same system operated by the pilot and not a computer. Even the eagle has a computer to help move the airplane around. Just look at the old WWII fighter; most of them had to be operated with lots of care at low speed; most of them would go into a wing rock; some would do it suddenly; others would warn you. The problem is that pilots had to be very cautions trying to not get killed by their airplanes instead of fighting the enemy. What about the f-105 have you seen the sabre dance videos? flight by wire help you prevent that sort of situations; sometimes it also helps reduce airplane deficiencies or improve handling. My only problem with fly by wire is that if you loose your computer or if you experience a failure on your data censors you are in big trouble. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nscode Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 All that can be done with analogue (including hydromechanical) computers, but... why :) 1 Never forget that World War III was not Cold for most of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sobek Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 All that can be done with analogue (including hydromechanical) computers, but... why :) Exactly, those are slower, heavier, most likely less efficient and probably cost more. Good, fast, cheap. Choose any two. Come let's eat grandpa! Use punctuation, save lives! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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