BBQ Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 sort of a super trackir? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sungsam Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 sort of a super trackir? I really expect it about 6 months now ! DCS F16C 52+ w JHMCS ! DCS AH64D Longbow ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Succellus Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 Ho it will eventually, but will it be worth it ? it has been designed for lame console. HaF 922, Asus rampage extreme 3 gene, I7 950 with Noctua D14, MSI gtx 460 hawk, G skill 1600 8gb, 1.5 giga samsung HD. Track IR 5, Hall sensed Cougar, Hall sensed TM RCS TM Warthog(2283), TM MFD, Saitek pro combat rudder, Cougar MFD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sungsam Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 Yes it worth it. It is light years ahead tracking device. It uses picture , IR, 3d sound source to locate movement. Microsoft will publish Pc version Kinect drivers soon. Device needs no changes to work. DCS F16C 52+ w JHMCS ! DCS AH64D Longbow ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Succellus Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 Well we ll see it its worth anything more than what track ir already does, when the drivers are released and the game start to publish it as a features, until there, there s not much use. And i dont see it or myself flying with a wonder woman invisible stick plane. HaF 922, Asus rampage extreme 3 gene, I7 950 with Noctua D14, MSI gtx 460 hawk, G skill 1600 8gb, 1.5 giga samsung HD. Track IR 5, Hall sensed Cougar, Hall sensed TM RCS TM Warthog(2283), TM MFD, Saitek pro combat rudder, Cougar MFD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hassata Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 MS is releasing (released?) the SDK imminently. Should be seconds thereafter lol. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revvin Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 I'm holding off replacing my TrackIR 3 until at least after E3 when we may get to see some announcements on this. Microsoft has said they will release an SDK for the Kinect on PC and ASUS have also produced a similar device for the PC, who knows the next evolution of TrackIR might even do away with the need for reflective strips or LED's which would be far less cumbersome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBQ Posted May 20, 2011 Author Share Posted May 20, 2011 that's great news--had no idea--just a pipedream! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boarder2 Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 Using a kinect for head tracking like a Track IR replacement would not work very well at all. It would be very hard to tell which direction your head was facing. Especially at the resolution required in something like a flight simulator. The TrackIR has fixed points, that makes it much easier to determine where your head is and what direction it's facing. You may be able to do it with a kinect using some sort of headset, but at that point, you might as well get the trackir because you lose the advantage of not having to wear anything. It'll take a few more generations of motion capture to get what you're asking for. iControl DCS/DCS Virtual Cockpit - Full featured iPad Cockpit - Now with Android support! A10 Virtual Cockpit Free - Free limited functionality version of iControl DCS! DCS Virtual Cockpit - Android version! Follow on Twitter for all the latest news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBANGtheory Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 I purchased the power adapter for £10 the other day to allow me to plug the Xbox Kinect (which I already own) into my PC. No sign of the official drivers and SDK-beta yet though but I am willing to give it a go. I think TrackIR5 was a brilliant solution in 2009, but I am struggling to come to terms with the fact its now 2011 and not much has happened with game support and or product updates/price. Maybe it is the best option for flight sims for a long time yet but my gut feel says no, especially having used Kinect on Xbox360. Natural Point isn't helping matters either by keeping quiet..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revvin Posted May 25, 2011 Share Posted May 25, 2011 The Playstation Eye camera for the PS3 already supports head tracking for games like Gran Turismo 5. It may not be as polished as the TrackIR is now but I was an early adopter of the TrackIR and that had it's own issues when it first came out so there is no reason things like the Playstation Eye or Microsoft Kinect can't be improved. I'd like to think Naturalpoint have something up their sleeve as the technology has moved on so it's time to unshackle gamers from their reflective frames and LED arrays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WynnTTr Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 The Playstation Eye camera for the PS3 already supports head tracking for games like Gran Turismo 5. It may not be as polished as the TrackIR is now but I was an early adopter of the TrackIR and that had it's own issues when it first came out so there is no reason things like the Playstation Eye or Microsoft Kinect can't be improved. I'd like to think Naturalpoint have something up their sleeve as the technology has moved on so it's time to unshackle gamers from their reflective frames and LED arrays. I'd like to think so too but the realist in me knows that NP aren't a multi-billion dollar company like Microsoft or Sony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hassata Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 They must be up to something. Partly the reason I'm holding off on TIR 5. Learned my lesson last round when I bought my TIR 4 just before the 5 came out. They are notoriously tight lipped about new products. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IADC Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 I can’t believe some of the crap you read on these forums. No offence Border2 but where do you get your information from? I have setup and tested the PS3eye Camera with Face Track Noir 1.6/DCS A10 32bit release and it is as good as track iR but does not work with DCS A10 64bit because it was blocked. Seriously people get proper facts that are proven and tested before writing on the forums because it leads to disinformation about product capability. If we don’t support newer technology then we will never see any development. You will still be sitting there with a pair stupid antlers stuck to your head in 10 years from now. Good Point from BigBANGtheory, Why are Natural Point staying silent. Believe me this does not help their cause any and makes me want something else even more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sungsam Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 Using a kinect for head tracking like a Track IR replacement would not work very well at all. It would be very hard to tell which direction your head was facing. Especially at the resolution required in something like a flight simulator. The TrackIR has fixed points, that makes it much easier to determine where your head is and what direction it's facing. You may be able to do it with a kinect using some sort of headset, but at that point, you might as well get the trackir because you lose the advantage of not having to wear anything. It'll take a few more generations of motion capture to get what you're asking for. No you are completly wrong ! Actually our face/head has many special areas that can be tracked much beter that 3 IR spots ! It has ears, nose eyes,mouth, eyebrows. Compining all these gives precise and error free tracking compared to 3 IR LEDS. It is really Light years ahead tracking ! DCS F16C 52+ w JHMCS ! DCS AH64D Longbow ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Rider Posted May 26, 2011 Share Posted May 26, 2011 Using a kinect for head tracking like a Track IR replacement would not work very well at all. It would be very hard to tell which direction your head was facing. Especially at the resolution required in something like a flight simulator. The TrackIR has fixed points, that makes it much easier to determine where your head is and what direction it's facing. You may be able to do it with a kinect using some sort of headset, but at that point, you might as well get the trackir because you lose the advantage of not having to wear anything. It'll take a few more generations of motion capture to get what you're asking for. seems to be working ok admittedly, there's always room for improvement City Hall is easier to fight, than a boys' club - an observation :P "Resort is had to ridicule only when reason is against us." - Jefferson "Give a group of potheads a bunch of weed and nothing to smoke out of, and they'll quickly turn into engineers... its simply amazing." EVGA X99 FTW, EVGA GTX980Ti FTW, i7 5930K, 16Gb Corsair Dominator 2666Hz, Windows 7 Ultimate 64Bit, Intel 520 SSD x 2, Samsung PX2370 monitor and all the other toys - "I am a leaf on the wind, watch how I soar" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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