Cibit Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 I am sure I read somewhere that it was unnecessary to alter curve and deadzone on the warthog hotas is this correct or have some of you altered theirs and if so what settings i5 8600k@5.2Ghz, Asus Prime A Z370, 32Gb DDR4 3000, GTX1080 SC, Oculus Rift CV1, Modded TM Warthog Modded X52 Collective, Jetseat, W10 Pro 64 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Adding JTAC Guide //My Vid's//229th AHB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cibit Posted June 15, 2011 Author Share Posted June 15, 2011 So no one has altered the curve and deadzone on a Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS:noexpression: i5 8600k@5.2Ghz, Asus Prime A Z370, 32Gb DDR4 3000, GTX1080 SC, Oculus Rift CV1, Modded TM Warthog Modded X52 Collective, Jetseat, W10 Pro 64 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Adding JTAC Guide //My Vid's//229th AHB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzertard Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 I haven't. I'm happy with it as it is - straight out of the box. The mind is like a parachute. It only works when it's open | The important thing is not to stop questioning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackTheKnight Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 I altered mine to match what was in the A10C FAQ. I found aerial refueling was impossible with the default settings. From the FAQ: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=67747 Q: Why are my controls too sensitive? A: The default axis settings for the stick and be a bit touchy for some. If you feel this is the case or you. we suggest: 1- Select Options from Main Menu 2- Select Controls tab 3- From Category drop down list, select Axis Commands 4- Select Pitch for JOY Y and then press Axis Tune button 5- Set JOY Y Deadzone to 10 and Curvature to 30 6- Press Ok button 4- Select Roll for JOY X and then press Axis Tune button 5- Set JOY X Deadzone to 10 and Curvature to 30 6- Press Ok button 7- Press Ok button at bottom of screen to save changes. I set curvature to 30 the same as above, however I have a deadzone of 0 on both axis as the HOTAS Warthog doesnt seem to need any deadzone for me. -Mack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cibit Posted June 15, 2011 Author Share Posted June 15, 2011 Thanks guys. You know I was practising AAR last night and set up the plane got it trimmed right and was flying up to the tanker. I was slightly low and so corrected . Instantly I was in a 10 degree climb. So I tried again but what became apparent is that for me the stick moves(in game) when you apply trim. Once you stop applying trim the stick stays where it is(in game). But when I move the stick again(In my hand) the trim reverts and hey presto climbing for the moon. Am I stupid and doing something really noobish or is this how trim is supposed to work:cry: 1 i5 8600k@5.2Ghz, Asus Prime A Z370, 32Gb DDR4 3000, GTX1080 SC, Oculus Rift CV1, Modded TM Warthog Modded X52 Collective, Jetseat, W10 Pro 64 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Adding JTAC Guide //My Vid's//229th AHB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzertard Posted June 15, 2011 Share Posted June 15, 2011 instantly 10 degrees climb? wow, nope - never had any such spikes on my stick. Touching the stick I might be able to nudge it +/- 0,1 degrees - or finer, or there about. Default settings - no Target software running. No other USB bloatware running for that matter. The mind is like a parachute. It only works when it's open | The important thing is not to stop questioning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cibit Posted June 16, 2011 Author Share Posted June 16, 2011 (edited) If I open my refuel hatch and trim down it will go into level flight and you can see the stick move with the trim inputs, once I make any movement with the stick the stick goes back to its untrimmed position. This is what causes my wild pitching. So Panzertard from your previous post this appears to be the wrong thing to happen? I have plugged in my mouse and keyboard both USB. Saitek rudder pedals, Track IR, HOTAS and 1x external USB HDD. No Target software, but saitek gui is visible in hidden items even though a profile for the pedals is not assigned. Could a usb device cause the problem(if indeed it is a problem) TY Cib Edited June 16, 2011 by Cibit i5 8600k@5.2Ghz, Asus Prime A Z370, 32Gb DDR4 3000, GTX1080 SC, Oculus Rift CV1, Modded TM Warthog Modded X52 Collective, Jetseat, W10 Pro 64 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Adding JTAC Guide //My Vid's//229th AHB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cibit Posted June 20, 2011 Author Share Posted June 20, 2011 Bump. Please help:cry: i5 8600k@5.2Ghz, Asus Prime A Z370, 32Gb DDR4 3000, GTX1080 SC, Oculus Rift CV1, Modded TM Warthog Modded X52 Collective, Jetseat, W10 Pro 64 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Adding JTAC Guide //My Vid's//229th AHB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAF74_Raptor Posted June 20, 2011 Share Posted June 20, 2011 Cib make sure all your axis commands in controls are not dual mapped. I came I saw I got blown up by a SA-8:pilotfly: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] http://www.firstfighterwing.com/forums/content.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cibit Posted June 20, 2011 Author Share Posted June 20, 2011 Only 1 device assigned per axis pitch n bank assigned joystick. Rudder assigned peddles 2 throttles assigned to throttles and slew assigned to throttle mini stick Can you confirm though that when you set pitch via the trim button. The next time you move the stick it is moving from the last trim position and not resetting to what I perceive to be take off trim i5 8600k@5.2Ghz, Asus Prime A Z370, 32Gb DDR4 3000, GTX1080 SC, Oculus Rift CV1, Modded TM Warthog Modded X52 Collective, Jetseat, W10 Pro 64 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Adding JTAC Guide //My Vid's//229th AHB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svend_Dellepude Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 (edited) Only 1 device assigned per axis pitch n bank assigned joystick. Rudder assigned peddles 2 throttles assigned to throttles and slew assigned to throttle mini stick Can you confirm though that when you set pitch via the trim button. The next time you move the stick it is moving from the last trim position and not resetting to what I perceive to be take off trim After trim, stick moves from the trimmed position. It does not revert anywhere unless you press CTRL+t or takeoff trim button in the cockpit. Opening the fuel door does however disengage the EAC (i think) and as a consequence push the stick forward or pull the stick. Suddenly i dont remember which. Closing the fueldoor again reengages the EAC and everything is back to normal. Other than that the stick always moves from and returns to the trimmed position, regardles of joystick movement. Regarding the axis settings, i use a deadzone of 3 or 4 and a curve set to 15 on both Y and X axis. It gives a very good blend between response, when fighting and fine control when AAR. Edited June 21, 2011 by Svend_Dellepude 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Win10 64, Asus Maximus VIII Formula, i5 6600K, Geforce 980 GTX Ti, 32 GB Ram, Samsung EVO SSD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cibit Posted June 21, 2011 Author Share Posted June 21, 2011 Thanks for this information. I guess now I need to find out why my stick reverts to pre trim condition:joystick: i5 8600k@5.2Ghz, Asus Prime A Z370, 32Gb DDR4 3000, GTX1080 SC, Oculus Rift CV1, Modded TM Warthog Modded X52 Collective, Jetseat, W10 Pro 64 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Adding JTAC Guide //My Vid's//229th AHB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miguelaco Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 Opening the fuel door does however disengage the EAC (i think) and as a consequence push the stick forward or pull the stick. Opening the refueling door doesn't disengage EAC, AFAIK. It just disengage GUN PAC if enabled. Try to put GUN switch to SAFE or disengage MASTER ARM and you will not notice that pitch change when opening the door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svend_Dellepude Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 (edited) 1) Unplug all controllers except your stick, start the game and check if the problem has been solved. Then plug the remaining controllers back in, one after one and find where it goes wrong. 2) Or delete your input folder in your <username>/saved games/dcs warthog/config folder DCS will make a new default one when you start the sim again. I suggest you try #1 first. Edited June 21, 2011 by Svend_Dellepude [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Win10 64, Asus Maximus VIII Formula, i5 6600K, Geforce 980 GTX Ti, 32 GB Ram, Samsung EVO SSD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svend_Dellepude Posted June 21, 2011 Share Posted June 21, 2011 (edited) Opening the refueling door doesn't disengage EAC, AFAIK. It just disengage GUN PAC if enabled. Try to put GUN switch to SAFE or disengage MASTER ARM and you will not notice that pitch change when opening the door. It does more than that as it also disables the A/P so it's not only related to pac. But maybe not to EAC.. This was the most info i could find from the manual (pg 137): ...Engagement of the EAC autopilot or PAC modes is possible only if the EAC switch is set to ARM, SAS is engaged, IFFCC switch in position other than OFF, EGI is selected, BLENDED or INS-only NAV solution is selected after full EGI INS alignment, and air refueling door lever is in the closed position. So it disengages PAC an A/P.. Edited June 21, 2011 by Svend_Dellepude Added the manual stuff [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Win10 64, Asus Maximus VIII Formula, i5 6600K, Geforce 980 GTX Ti, 32 GB Ram, Samsung EVO SSD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cibit Posted June 27, 2011 Author Share Posted June 27, 2011 Discovered that I had 2 buttons on my Hotas assigned to change trim mode. I think it is cured now:) i5 8600k@5.2Ghz, Asus Prime A Z370, 32Gb DDR4 3000, GTX1080 SC, Oculus Rift CV1, Modded TM Warthog Modded X52 Collective, Jetseat, W10 Pro 64 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Adding JTAC Guide //My Vid's//229th AHB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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