DCS World 2.0 and New Maps Discussion Thread

[cichlidfan]

That was over a week ago, I highly doubt they are still dealing with this issue. As for updates, I wouldnt expect much until release unless Wags is feeling generous, as was stated before, they have gone to more of a Valve type update policy.

 

I was merely posting the last news, from ED/RRG, about EDGE/Nevada. If you'll notice, I did date it so someone would not have to follow the link to date the information. Regarding the current status, that would be up to every individual to draw their own conclusions based on the data available. :)

[NineLine]

I was merely posting the last news, from ED/RRG, about EDGE/Nevada. If you'll notice, I did date it so someone would not have to follow the link to date the information. Regarding the current status, that would be up to every individual to draw their own conclusions based on the data available. :)

 

 

And I was just clarifying that in the grand scheme of software development I am sure they are well into the next bug ;)

[howie87]

That was over a week ago, I highly doubt they are still dealing with this issue. As for updates, I wouldnt expect much until release unless Wags is feeling generous, as was stated before, they have gone to more of a Valve type update policy.

 

When was this "Valve type update police" statement made by ED?

[upupandaway]

I´m sure things are still moving along well behind the curtains and yes, one can probably infer that it´s coming closer to what we are all waiting for. However, I can´t help but ask myself how, apart from any directly EDGE-related news, RRG now thinks it´s a good idea to just start ignoring us and post no more weekly updates, which is clearly a breach of their own assurances to the community. At least they should briefly mention why there is a change in policy. ED on the other hand never said they would make anything public.

[Cedaway]

When was this "Valve type update police" statement made by ED?

 

The "two more weeks" Valve update type ;)

[Silver_Dragon]

Dmitry (and Alt Wolf) put a new video with the name "Project 9"..... Nothing with EDGE, but show a level of quality impresive. :(

 

http://youtu.be/2g8eDfL2fBE

Edited March 3, 2014 by Silver_Dragon

[NineLine]

When was this "Valve type update police" statement made by ED?

 

It wasnt so much a statement by ED, but asked to be passed along by moderators. Its been passed along a few times, its understandable that not everyone has seen this of course.

[NineLine]

Dmitry (and Alt Wolf) put a new video with the name "Project 9"..... Nothing with EDGE, but show a level of quality impresive. :(

 

http://youtu.be/2g8eDfL2fBE

 

So so purdy... I want to fly there :)

[Paganus]

Dmitry (and Alt Wolf) put a new video with the name "Project 9"..... Nothing with EDGE, but show a level of quality impresive. :(

 

http://youtu.be/2g8eDfL2fBE

 

 

The clips @ 1:27-1:30 and 2:28-2:32 look like they could have come from Nevada.

[Silver_Dragon]

@ 1:10 rock formation and base has broken my heart, no a normal PC can move them :cry:

[upupandaway]

@ 1:10 rock formation and base has broken my heart, no a normal PC can move them

Hypothetically, if such an engine makes use of tesselation, why not? The first tesselation benchmarks for DX11 that were running fluidly on 580s and such seemed to have more complex geometry going on. Although if you look closely, the rocks extend out to a considerable distance.

I really like the LOD transitions. As far as it can be judged from this material, they appear very fluid.

Another very interesting and beautiful video that shows many possible features, but what should this video mean to anybody who is waiting for official news on EDGE and its final features? Probably nothing, but it´s fertile ground for some more specualtion.

Damn, this is cruel. I just want to play this and not be teased any more with something different every day.

 

EDIT: What is the "PROJECT9 graphics engine" even? It looks just like EDGE. Or is this just the first promo material for the current EDGE version (be it for DCS or commercial use) and they´re trying to fly below the radar...?

Edited March 3, 2014 by upupandaway

[TaliG]

@ 1:10 rock formation and base has broken my heart, no a normal PC can move them :cry:

 

Maybe you have not realised that we are 3 months into 2014 and not 2004.

A mid spec todays PC can run even better quality terrain...

You can download outera and check for yourself if you dnt believe me :smilewink:

 

EDIT: building @0:43 just begs to receive some miniguns ''treatment'' from the huey :D

Edited March 3, 2014 by TaliG

[SkateZilla]

 

EDIT: What is the "PROJECT9 graphics engine" even? It looks just like EDGE. Or is this just the first promo material for the current EDGE version (be it for DCS or commercial use) and they´re trying to fly below the radar...?

 

It's actually VERY Common for Engines to have Multiple names: Internal Code Name, Public Code Name, Official Name, etc etc.

 

As for the Video... the Night Lighting.. O...M...G.... Take ... My... MOney!

 

@ 1:10 rock formation and base has broken my heart, no a normal PC can move them :cry:

 

It's possible with alot of methods now,

ie: DX11 Instancing

Build a Boulder, Tessellate it, Use DX11 Instancing, Boulder is rendered Once in the Render Pipe and Copied repeatedly across the landscape.

 

 

That video just made my Monday feel like Friday.

Edited March 3, 2014 by SkateZilla

[NineLine]

It's actually VERY Common for Engines to have Multiple names: Internal Code Name, Public Code Name, Official Name, etc etc.

 

As for the Video... the Night Lighting.. O...M...G.... Take ... My... MOney!

 

I thought the same thing, the night shots were incredible...

[upupandaway]

It's actually VERY Common for Engines to have Multiple names: Internal Code Name, Public Code Name, Official Name, etc etc.

 

As for the Video... the Night Lighting.. O...M...G.... Take ... My... MOney!

 

 

 

It's possible with alot of methods now,

ie: DX11 Instancing

Build a Boulder, Tessellate it, Use DX11 Instancing, Boulder is rendered Once in the Render Pipe and Copied repeatedly across the landscape.

 

 

That video just made my Monday feel like Friday.

 

Hehe, just about everything in this video is gorgeous. I also wish I could have my money taken for this already!

 

Just found it a little strange that something is released under a new (?) code name when it´s already publicly knwon under the acronym EDGE.

Also, the video is not listed. How did the link find its way here? Was it an intentional leak? Viral marketing?

I think I´m still going insane before it´s released...

[Flagrum]

Hehe, just about everything in this video is gorgeous. I also wish I could have my money taken for this already!

 

Just found it a little strange that something is released under a new (?) code name when it´s already publicly knwon under the acronym EDGE.

Also, the video is not listed. How did the link find its way here? Was it an intentional leak? Viral marketing?

I think I´m still going insane before it´s released...

The code name could mean anything - it is Altwolf's video, so perhaps they have a "Project 9" that is based on ED's EDGE?

[TaliG]

The code name could mean anything - it is Altwolf's video, so perhaps they have a "Project 9" that is based on ED's EDGE?

 

Or the opposite.

[SkateZilla]

Hehe, just about everything in this video is gorgeous. I also wish I could have my money taken for this already!

 

Just found it a little strange that something is released under a new (?) code name when it´s already publicly knwon under the acronym EDGE.

Also, the video is not listed. How did the link find its way here? Was it an intentional leak? Viral marketing?

I think I´m still going insane before it´s released...

 

 

If you're subscribed to Dimitry on YT i think it shows up in your "Youtube Feed", or someone sent someone a link.

 

As for the naming, Maybe Concord XXI has their own name for the Graphics engine they licensed from ED, who knows, it's all speculation until anything official is said.

Edited March 3, 2014 by SkateZilla

[eurofor]

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Also, the video is not listed. How did the link find its way here? Was it an intentional leak? Viral marketing?

(...)

 

If you subscribed to Dimitry on YT i think it shows up in your "Youtube Feed", or someone sent someone a link.

 

(...)

 

It did show up in the youtube feed earlier but was then unlisted.

[upupandaway]

Oh well...

Thx for the clarification.

Edited March 4, 2014 by upupandaway

[SkateZilla]

Oh well...

Thx for the clarification.

 

EDIT: I was just watching Rudel´s dev stream and noticed that apparently he is working with a DCS version no. 1.3.0. Based on what happened with the introduction of DCS World and the modular structure (i. e. switching the designation from 1.1.x.x to 1.2.x) I´m going to take a wild guess that ED went from 1.2.7 to 1.3.0 because EDGE is the big new feature in the next version which is (more or less) just around the corner.

(...and the video that way posted may be intended for promotional purposes.)

 

3rd party devs and partners most likely have access to internal builds, which are usually well ahead in build number/version.

 

And we also already know that Corsica / Fort Rucker / Alabama and such are all Property of Concord XXI

http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1928068&postcount=3153

 

So that Promo Video is prolly for the Company That built the terrains (Alt Wolf), to sell more licenses, whatever.

Since it's set as unlisted, I'm pretty sure it was meant to be a private video to share with their clients.

 

 

As for the Name, it dont matter what they call it, EDGE, Project 9, Oscar The Grouch, whatever, as Long as I can Fly over it, drop bombs on it, and take pretty screenshots of it at 7440x1080 with smooth FPS :)

Edited March 3, 2014 by SkateZilla

[upupandaway]

Does that preclude this possible narrative?

Of course it´s easy to jump to conclusions based on just a few images that you see somewhere, but in absence of any official word it´s pretty much all you´ve got. At least it confirms there is already a build 1.3.0 in existence which hints at what I assumed before. The only question remains how many intermediate builds there are/will be/will be released.

[cichlidfan]

Someone needs to coin a new phrase that artfully combines...

 

"jumping to conclusions"

 

"leap of faith"

 

and

 

"grasping at straws"

 

:D

[SkateZilla]

Does that preclude this possible narrative?

Of course it´s easy to jump to conclusions based on just a few images that you see somewhere, but in absence of any official word it´s pretty much all you´ve got. At least it confirms there is already a build 1.3.0 in existence which hints at what I assumed before. The only question remains how many intermediate builds there are/will be/will be released.

 

1.2.8 and 1.2.9 plus subversions?

 

Remember, the DCS Overview Video Wags posted was running 1.2.4 and we were only on 1.2.2 ish.

[upupandaway]

Any jump or leap should be sure-footed enough for otherwise you will be left grasping for straws to save yourself.

 

I know I´m reaching, but seriously, how could you not if you see something like that. Delays, nothing but delays...