DCS World 2.0 and New Maps Discussion Thread

[Raven68]

I am a little worried that the ship wake effect might not sit well with the 3D waves (clipping issues), and that the ocean looks too reflective in general. But the lighting itself looks great, a huge step up from what we currently have.

 

I wonder if some of the effects or lack thereof that you mentioned my be a result of limitations of the old map?

[Scoggs]

Holy crap those are amazing. Cant wait to see them on a screen other than my iphone.

 

And I thought the current map would not run in EDGE at all? Or did I miss a post?

[Pizzicato]

And I thought the current map would not run in EDGE at all? Or did I miss a post?

 

You missed a post... somewhere. :)

 

The last update was that the current map will work with EDGE, but won't benefit from all of its features. No one has been specific about the details yet, though.

Edited April 26, 2014 by Pizzicato

[J7G]

I wonder what the sea will be like in EDGE. I mean that in the sense of could we have user ships in the future riding the waves and whatnot.

[Scoggs]

You missed a post... somewhere. :)

 

The last information was that the current will work with EDGE, but won't benefit from all of its features. No one has been specific about the details yet, though.

 

Either way nice. It certainly looks a lot nicer.

[Witchking]

Looking great...but the water still seems too flat. I know at one point there were some experiments with a new water render which looked amazing but ED removed it due to performance issues it was removed. It would be nice to see some stormy seas, the ships riding the waves etc.

[Bucic]

Looking great...but the water still seems too flat. I know at one point there were some experiments with a new water render which looked amazing but ED removed it due to performance issues it was removed. It would be nice to see some stormy seas, the ships riding the waves etc.

I am not a graphics expert but I think it's a good guess we should consider things like water, explosions, fire etc. not as part of the graphics engine but rather as assets, similarly to e.g. models and textures.

 

Nothing except ligting (and maybe also haze) on those screens http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2051862&postcount=7 is what Wags wanted to present us with. So, if you're being presented with lighting, don't complain about water :)

 

Another way to look at it is: engine ~ possibilities.

Edited April 26, 2014 by Bucic

[Dudester22]

Still nothing on the Nevada map? I saw a post recently where they said they had just finished the lighting. However, I saw a post months ago that Nevada map was complete, but that they just had some gating issues integrating it into DCS? Would be nice to know what's happening with it instead of reading one thing then another.

[Phantom88]

Thank You for the update,I see Matt posting more Pictures with DCS Modules in them,instead of just static EDGE Objects,I'm taking this as a good sign that DCS World integration into EDGE is going well? Would love to see/hear more about this if possible? Thank You.

[Raven68]

Nothing except ligting (and maybe also haze) on those screens http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2051862&postcount=7 is what Wags wanted to present us with. So, if you're being presented with lighting, don't complain about water :)

 

Agreed! Considering what we have with the current map now how can we complain when we are getting better visuals for it through EDGE? Although it wont be able to fully benefit from EDGE at least it wont be left behind and get nothing.

 

Still nothing on the Nevada map? I saw a post recently where they said they had just finished the lighting. However, I saw a post months ago that Nevada map was complete, but that they just had some gating issues integrating it into DCS? Would be nice to know what's happening with it instead of reading one thing then another.

 

I believe they're close to the finish line with NTTR, but it now a matter of balancing visual and performance now IMO. I do agree though it would be nice to see more on it, but there was a recent post from Matt...

 

http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2045930&postcount=16

:)

NASCAR... bah.

 

Some fun CA possibilities...

 

[Witchking]

I am not a graphics expert but I think it's a good guess we should consider things like water, explosions, fire etc. not as part of the graphics engine but rather as assets, similarly to e.g. models and textures.

 

Nothing except ligting (and maybe also haze) on those screens http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=2051862&postcount=7 is what Wags wanted to present us with. So, if you're being presented with lighting, don't complain about water :)

 

Another way to look at it is: engine ~ possibilities.

 

I understand...it wasn't complaining...but more so a suggestion.

 

Similarly, the dust kicked up while low level chopper flight/flight is almost like a plane in some angles...not volumetric. Here's hoping edge brings us some new special fx which are more efficient and gpu based.

[SyntaxError]

Wouldn't be surprised if they release EDGE first to re-freshen Georgia to some degree and then Nevada later in the year when it's ready.

[Cibit]

 

 

 

Hey my American cousins, is it best to eat before you get to NASCAR or are there restaurants inside. Oh and where is the best drive-in:)

[Bucic]

Similarly, the dust kicked up while low level chopper flight/flight is almost like a plane in some angles...not volumetric. Here's hoping edge brings us some new special fx which are more efficient and gpu based.

Traditionally ED sucks at particle effects :D But then just look at what they've achieved with the recently updated effects like wingtip trails etc. Well done.

But again, assets, not a matter of engine.

[Raven68]

Hey my American cousins, is it best to eat before you get to NASCAR or are there restaurants inside. Oh and where is the best drive-in:)

 

Plenty to eat on the inside! :) With NASCAR being a "southern" thing, you can count on plenty of BBQ! :music_whistling:

[Revan]

So, they say that the Nevada map will be free for the people that bought the A-10C beta

 

does that mean the people bought it way back when it was its own standalone thing, or something else?

[cichlidfan]

does that mean the people bought it way back when it was its own standalone thing,...

 

That would be the only time it was in beta, so yes.

[HiJack]

Traditionally ED sucks at particle effects :D But then just look at what they've achieved with the recently updated effects like wingtip trails etc. Well done.

But again, assets, not a matter of engine.

I agree, the wingtip trails is now very good! :thumbup:

[TaliG]

In my opinion, a 200x200k +- theatre can only be a demo and not a full add on product for a jet simulator...

 

EDIT: please delete my duplicate posts. It was a problem with my internet connection or something :)

Edited April 26, 2014 by TaliG

[159th_Viper]

In my opinion, a 200x200k +- theatre can only be a demo and not a full add on product for a jet simulator...

 

It is a Training Range.

[NineLine]

It is a Training Range.

 

 

In more ways than one... this is ED's first map in EDGE for DCS World, why would you start so huge that if you had an issue and had to rebuild it would take forever... its smart to start with a smaller map.

[TaliG]

It is a Training Range.

 

I never doubted about the purpose of this terrain, I only objected on the size of it. Which is TERRIBLY small. (but that is my poor opinion and nothing more)

[Silver_Dragon]

NTTR have 360x360 Km long.

http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1902741&postcount=4

Attached is an image that displays the area covered by the NTTR map for DCS. This is a 360x360 km area that includes three functional airfields: Nellis AFB, Creech AFB, and Groom Lake (aka Area 51 / Dreamland). The focus of this map is the NTTR. I've attached an image of the new lights being worked on for the airfields.

 

And that can be "extended" with the time.

[TaliG]

I just hope that integration will finish soon and ED will release some tools to 3rd party devs so we can see a light in the tunnel. For me, NTTR will be only a ''demo'' and nothing more...

[SkateZilla]

Traditionally ED sucks at particle effects :D But then just look at what they've achieved with the recently updated effects like wingtip trails etc. Well done.

But again, assets, not a matter of engine.

 

DirectX 9 isnt really a good API to do particle effects on anyway, I've seen alot of companies struggle with Particles on DX9 and 10 for that matter.