Tozzifan Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Hi, I don't know whether I have a problem or it's simply my fight against learning curve :smilewink: (I started studying a few months ago, made a first reading of manuals, but then I had to interrupt the process, so I'm almost starting over): I'm trying to set up a flight in editor, just to learn basic flight procedures: a Ka50 on the ground, all systems on, ready to takeoff...yet it won't lift off: I noticed that rotor RPM value won't go beyond 8 (the range my throttle covers is 6-8, in this case); then I've tried setting up another flight, this time in the air: the ka50 flies, this time: rotor RPM range with my throttle is 8-10 - my first question is what I'm missing in the editor setup - my second question is whether it's normal that my throttle covers such a little range of rotor RPM values (my hotas works correctly, according to BS/Thrustmaster/Windows calibration softwares, and according to A10 and FSX in-game verification) thanks thanks win10 - win7 // 1080 // creative Fatal1ty // WartHog Hotas // trackIr5 // 3d vision // Saitek Trim wheel // CH Throttle Quadrant // Saitek pedals // Oculus CV1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaOneSix Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Sounds like your throttles may be in IDLE instead of AUTO. To verify, press PageDown twice (to make sure they are really in IDLE) then press PageUp twice to move them back to AUTO. This should bring your Rotor RPM back into the normal range. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winz Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Also make sure that your HOTAS throttle is mapped to the collective, not throttle. 1 The Valley A-10C Version Revanche for FC 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tozzifan Posted December 29, 2011 Author Share Posted December 29, 2011 (edited) Also make sure that your HOTAS throttle is mapped to the collective, not throttle. that made the trick :thumbup: yet I don't understand why I have to map WartHog's throttles to collective, instead of default left/right throttle, having the Warthog two throttles, and the Ka50 two engines ......... Edited December 29, 2011 by Tozzifan win10 - win7 // 1080 // creative Fatal1ty // WartHog Hotas // trackIr5 // 3d vision // Saitek Trim wheel // CH Throttle Quadrant // Saitek pedals // Oculus CV1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luigi Gorgonzola Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 that made the trick :thumbup: yet I don't understand why I have to map WartHot throttleS to collective, instead of default left/right throttle, having the Warthog two throttles, and the Ka50 two engines ......... The Ka-50 is equipped with a so called Governor, a device that eliminates the need of the pilot taking care of the throttle. In consequence, you place the throttle levers in AUTO position and the Governor device does the work on the throttle. All you have to take care of is Cyclic and Collective. And that's already pretty much. ;) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tozzifan Posted December 29, 2011 Author Share Posted December 29, 2011 The Ka-50 is equipped with a so called Governor, a device that eliminates the need of the pilot taking care of the throttle. In consequence, you place the throttle levers in AUTO position and the Governor device does the work on the throttle. All you have to take care of is Cyclic and Collective. And that's already pretty much. ;) Luigi, I totally agree about the "already pretty much" :), yet why then DCS enabled twin throttles recognition? win10 - win7 // 1080 // creative Fatal1ty // WartHog Hotas // trackIr5 // 3d vision // Saitek Trim wheel // CH Throttle Quadrant // Saitek pedals // Oculus CV1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaOneSix Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Because the engines on the Ka-50 have independent throttles in order to allow them to be manipulated independently. For normal flight, this is obviously not necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tozzifan Posted December 29, 2011 Author Share Posted December 29, 2011 Because the engines on the Ka-50 have independent throttles in order to allow them to be manipulated independently. For normal flight, this is obviously not necessary. maybe now I get it: instead of configuring the PC hardware, in case of failure/damage, all is done via the cockpit instruments: shutting one engine, then using the PC throttle for the surviving one; I suppose that the case in which there may be needed a engine with lowered power than the other one is a rarity win10 - win7 // 1080 // creative Fatal1ty // WartHog Hotas // trackIr5 // 3d vision // Saitek Trim wheel // CH Throttle Quadrant // Saitek pedals // Oculus CV1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luigi Gorgonzola Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 maybe now I get it: instead of configuring the PC hardware, in case of failure/damage, all is done via the cockpit instruments: shutting one engine, then using the PC throttle for the surviving one; I suppose that the case in which there may be needed a engine with lowered power than the other one is a rarity Not really ;) In case of a single engine loss, all you do is to move the throttle lever of the working engine to its FULL position, close the failed engine's cut-off valve and (usually) RTB while maintaining Rotor RPM at no lower than 85% using Collective. There is usually no need to "waste" a Joysstick/Controller button or slider with the Throttles. They remain untouched during flight (except in cases of emergency). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winz Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 maybe now I get it: instead of configuring the PC hardware, in case of failure/damage, all is done via the cockpit instruments: shutting one engine, then using the PC throttle for the surviving one; I suppose that the case in which there may be needed a engine with lowered power than the other one is a rarity Don't think of the throttle as the regular throttle where you set the power for the engines in 0-100% range. Instead, throttles in the BS, the yellow levers on the left-back of the cockpit, have few preset positions like IDLE, AUTO, FULL. That sets the regime you want the engine to operate in. So, there is really no point in mapping the HOTAS throttle to the Ka50 Throttle. The big lever you push up and down is the collective and it controls the angle of the rotor blades. The bigger the angle, the bigger the lift. The RPM of the rotor changes very little during flight, it's the angle that controls how much lift is produced. 1 The Valley A-10C Version Revanche for FC 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tozzifan Posted December 30, 2011 Author Share Posted December 30, 2011 Don't think of the throttle as the regular throttle where you set the power for the engines in 0-100% range. Instead, throttles in the BS, the yellow levers on the left-back of the cockpit, have few preset positions like IDLE, AUTO, FULL. That sets the regime you want the engine to operate in. So, there is really no point in mapping the HOTAS throttle to the Ka50 Throttle. The big lever you push up and down is the collective and it controls the angle of the rotor blades. The bigger the angle, the bigger the lift. The RPM of the rotor changes very little during flight, it's the angle that controls how much lift is produced. ! right ... I would have remembered it, yet it's been a looong time, for me, since the years I flew with Janes' Longbow and Enemy Engaged ... a lot of forgotten knowledge win10 - win7 // 1080 // creative Fatal1ty // WartHog Hotas // trackIr5 // 3d vision // Saitek Trim wheel // CH Throttle Quadrant // Saitek pedals // Oculus CV1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kite Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 hi tozzifan. If you like come to our website . We can have a flight together and can help you taking out some dust from the cockpit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tozzifan Posted December 30, 2011 Author Share Posted December 30, 2011 hi tozzifan. If you like come to our website . We can have a flight together and can help you taking out some dust from the cockpit thank you Kite, I'm interested, yet not too soon, because I'm still in the veeery early basic handling phase, having still to figure out how to perform a smooth landing :D , so please be patient a little while ... win10 - win7 // 1080 // creative Fatal1ty // WartHog Hotas // trackIr5 // 3d vision // Saitek Trim wheel // CH Throttle Quadrant // Saitek pedals // Oculus CV1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kite Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 Don t worry about your level. If you need help also for basic handling always happy to help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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