504MrWolf Posted October 11, 2005 Share Posted October 11, 2005 The VVS504 Dedicated server willbe running a whole day for new pilots to Lockon. Every Thursday the server will run all its missions with EASY settings and LABELS ON ! The server will switch to "Newbie Mode" at approximatly 09:00* on Thursday morning and switch back approximatly 09:00* Friday morning. Also a dedicated Teamspeak server has been set up with 25 slots for you guys to chat and share your knowledge. You will need these programs to join in the fun : HYPER LOBBY TEAMSPEAK Teamspeak connection details :- IP/URL = http://www.newnight.vvs504.co.uk:8777 (dont click, copy and paste) Have Fun Wolfie *All times GMT www.VVS504.co.uk www.lockonskins.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
504MrWolf Posted October 11, 2005 Author Share Posted October 11, 2005 Pilots from the 504th maybe pop online to lend their knowledge to you guys. www.VVS504.co.uk www.lockonskins.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
355th_Paulie Posted October 11, 2005 Share Posted October 11, 2005 Mr. Wolf, what an outstanding idea!!! Perhads you could get some other squads experienced pilots to participate in this, and setup a simplified flightschool? Just my 2 cents. :biggrin: :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S77th-Paralyzer Posted October 11, 2005 Share Posted October 11, 2005 Great idea Mr. Wolf. Keep up the good work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S77th-konkussion Posted October 11, 2005 Share Posted October 11, 2005 Excellent- I'll try to help in this endeavor, however I will limit to teaching only the regular systems. Labels for brand spanking new pilots is one thing, but I gotta draw the line at easy radar... [sIGPIC]http://forums.eagle.ru/attachment.php?attachmentid=43337&d=1287169113[/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
504MrWolf Posted October 11, 2005 Author Share Posted October 11, 2005 yeah easy radar will be off www.VVS504.co.uk www.lockonskins.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S77th-konkussion Posted October 11, 2005 Share Posted October 11, 2005 *applause* :beer: [sIGPIC]http://forums.eagle.ru/attachment.php?attachmentid=43337&d=1287169113[/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S77th-GOYA Posted October 11, 2005 Share Posted October 11, 2005 I'll try to pop in in the evening to help the Eagle drivers. Folks, if you want help, make sure you have TeamSpeak installed and ready to go. It makes things much easier than using the chat window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S77th-RYKE Posted October 11, 2005 Share Posted October 11, 2005 Good idea !! way to go WS504 !! I suggest turning labels off too , If you can't find a plane without labels than it's the second thing you need to teach yourself . (the first being to ID friend or foe) [sIGPIC]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/madmaxx69/LOMAC/Rykesig1.jpg[/sIGPIC] Savage 77th , http://s77th.com |Core i7 920|Asus P6T Deluxe V2|GTX 285|9600GT-OC|6G DDR3|Softh on 3x22"CRTs|Tir2|yeahIsaidTir2|X-45|Haf 932|Vista Ultimate 64| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bungle_uk Posted October 11, 2005 Share Posted October 11, 2005 Good idea !! way to go WS504 !! I suggest turning labels off too , If you can't find a plane without labels than it's the second thing you need to teach yourself . (the first being to ID friend or foe) I disagree. If they know where the plane is (by the labels) it will help them to learn where to point the radar to find it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S77th-GOYA Posted October 11, 2005 Share Posted October 11, 2005 I disagree. If they know where the plane is (by the labels) it will help them to learn where to point the radar to find it And that is exactly the kind of thing that can be learned offline. Someone may need to know that the scanning altitude needs to be raised and lowered for certain situations, but once someone knows that, it's just a matter of practice. There may be pilots that need that kind of elementary instruction, however, so perhaps the 504th might alternate labels on/off every hour or so to let the nuggets practice their skills in the server settings they will be seeing in other servers while still having an instructor pilot on comms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S77th-konkussion Posted October 11, 2005 Share Posted October 11, 2005 It seems we have a chicken or the egg situation here don't we? I would grudgingly accept labels long enough to concentrate on learning target acquistion systems. But Ryke is correct- they should be turned off ASAP. Anyone under me would lose them the minute he knew the basic radar controls. [sIGPIC]http://forums.eagle.ru/attachment.php?attachmentid=43337&d=1287169113[/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S77th-RYKE Posted October 11, 2005 Share Posted October 11, 2005 take those training wheels off now young padwan ... join us in the dark side [sIGPIC]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v108/madmaxx69/LOMAC/Rykesig1.jpg[/sIGPIC] Savage 77th , http://s77th.com |Core i7 920|Asus P6T Deluxe V2|GTX 285|9600GT-OC|6G DDR3|Softh on 3x22"CRTs|Tir2|yeahIsaidTir2|X-45|Haf 932|Vista Ultimate 64| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maulkin Posted October 11, 2005 Share Posted October 11, 2005 Its not just about radar aquisition, labels are useful for training in EWS as well. Especially if you are trying to learn both the Western style EWS and Eastern style at the same time, like I am. I still have a hard time. It may seem simple to you if you have been doing it for years on multiple different modern flight sims, but it is not easy for someone who has never flown a modern flight sim ever. If you need advice on how to set up a server to teach new people I suggest you ask the students what they need. Sure you can throw them in the deep end and it is sink or swim time, but your only going to frustrate and turn people off. Personally, I wish I had someone local so I could transport both themself and their computer to my house, set up a LAN, just so I could sit side-by-side experimenting with the systems of the aircraft. :) --Maulkin Windows 10 64-bit - AMD Ryzen 9 5900X @ 3.7 GHz - 32 GB DDR4 3600MHz RAM - EVGA FTW3 RTX 3080 - Asus Crosshair VIII Hero motherboard - Samsung EVO Pro 1 TB SSD - TrackIR 4 Pro - Thrustmaster Warthog - Saitek rudder pedals - Lilliput UM-80/C with TM Cougars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S77th-konkussion Posted October 11, 2005 Share Posted October 11, 2005 No one said throw em in the deep end. Once a student demonstrates that he knows how to use radar & it's submodes. Use IRST. If I say slew radar up & right, he can.. If I say lock me up thermal and read to me my speed & altitude..etc etc. Personally- I'm not going to rattle off some terminology and commence-a-killing him over & over. No point in that. Not just combat procedures, either. Navigation, landing, whatever. I get the labels in certain situations, but they should not be used beyond the familiarization stages. By the way- I came to this world from Nova's L3 for gods sake. I never flew IL2, flanker, Falcon, Janes, Johns, Peter, Paul, & Mary or any of that. I bought myself a good computer, a HOTAS and a track ir, and threw myself into the deep end of the pool. If a old timer from nova can commit to learning this game- anyone can. [sIGPIC]http://forums.eagle.ru/attachment.php?attachmentid=43337&d=1287169113[/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VapoR Posted October 11, 2005 Share Posted October 11, 2005 Cmon guys, one day with labels on ain't goin to kill ya!! I'm personally looking forward to it! It will make the job easier for all, especially for the a2g guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weta43 Posted October 11, 2005 Share Posted October 11, 2005 I just put this in another thread & I don't know if you can export it from the server, but some midpoint between labels on & off like: AirFormat = {} AirFormat[750] = "" AirFormat[6500] = "%N" AirFormat[15000] = "-'-" AirFormat[22000] = "-" AirFormat[32000] = "." WeaponFormat = {} WeaponFormat[500] = " " WeaponFormat[3000] = "%D" WeaponFormat[9000] = "-" WeaponFormat[12000] = " " ColorAliesSide = {125, 0, 125} ColorEnemiesSide = {125, 0, 125} might be helpful to beginners Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Boy Posted October 11, 2005 Share Posted October 11, 2005 I think this is a great it will give people a chance to play online something they have not done before labels or no labels I have been playing this game since 1.02 and have just started playing online. Not because I do not understand game. I will admit I do not understand it all I just so not have the time. The reason I have not played online before is because I did not know what it was like and there is always somebody that takes the game to serious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S77th-konkussion Posted October 11, 2005 Share Posted October 11, 2005 Cmon guys, one day with labels on ain't goin to kill ya!! I'm personally looking forward to it! It will make the job easier for all, especially for the a2g guys. I'm good! I'm good, lol I get the reasoning. No complaints here. [sIGPIC]http://forums.eagle.ru/attachment.php?attachmentid=43337&d=1287169113[/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battle_Rattle Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 nice offer... thanks 504th I think the thing is ...the combo of Ts and the Server helps alot.... who knows... no one may show up and you could take it down no problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maulkin Posted October 12, 2005 Share Posted October 12, 2005 Well I got the Teamspeak server bookmarked so you can be sure I will be on there crashing into buildings/hills and whatnot. --Maulkin Windows 10 64-bit - AMD Ryzen 9 5900X @ 3.7 GHz - 32 GB DDR4 3600MHz RAM - EVGA FTW3 RTX 3080 - Asus Crosshair VIII Hero motherboard - Samsung EVO Pro 1 TB SSD - TrackIR 4 Pro - Thrustmaster Warthog - Saitek rudder pedals - Lilliput UM-80/C with TM Cougars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
504MrWolf Posted October 12, 2005 Author Share Posted October 12, 2005 "Stage 1" Labels ON Thursdays. If this proves popular we will run "Stage 2" on another night with Labels OFF. Then the "Stage 3" would be jump on a normal "ACE" server and fly like you dreamed you would !! ;):D www.VVS504.co.uk www.lockonskins.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
504MrWolf Posted October 12, 2005 Author Share Posted October 12, 2005 ETA 9 hours and counting www.VVS504.co.uk www.lockonskins.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zorlac Posted October 13, 2005 Share Posted October 13, 2005 Just have to wait for Hyperlobby to come back up again... <sigh> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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