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  1. 1. Next DCS Helicopter Wish List

    • A129 Mangusta
      74
    • AH-1W Super Cobra
      581
    • AH-64A Apache
      508
    • AH-64D Longbow
      1173
    • Eurocopter Tiger
      304
    • Mi-24 Hind
      816
    • Mi-28 Havok
      330
    • Rooivalk
      45
    • Other
      233


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Sorry to be pesimistic but a) multicrew is not working on the UH1-H yet so Any othe rmulticrew is screwd... b) we allready know the AH-1 is next...c) the Hind is coming sometime... so next, to next Helo is going to be arrond 2020 with Lots of luck.

 

Anyway I would love the Augusta 109 Hirundo because its what Argentina uses.

 

But then again Naval operations needs a nice Heli, I would specialy like to see a nice 60s heli like a Sikorsky or a Westland.

an Aérospatiale AS-550/555 Fenec would also be lovely after the Gazzelle is completed.

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WE really need a Longbow to compete against the BlackShark.... and soon the Hind is coming as well, I heard there is a licensing issue I hope that is not true.

 

Seems like the original Apache A would be the appropriate counterpart to the BS, given their dates of introduction.

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helicopters dont compete with other helicopters, thier attack helos, not air superiority ( i dont even think such a thing exists let alone doctrine for it.)

 

also in many ways the longbow has many more features than Ka50. most notably Black shark doesn't have fire control radar or radar guided missiles.

 

Well, A-10's carry Sidewinders, right?

 

If a Fulda Gap scenario ever played out we would see extensive helo on helo combat. Just like in WW 1 when the recon planes began arming up to take each other down, you'd have helo's picking each other off as targets of opportunity at first, and then it'd go from there.

 

If a laser guided Hellfire/Vikhr can take down a moving tank, it can just as easily take a low & slow helo trying to snipe from cover.

 

Sidewinder & Stinger have been available on helo's for years (and Stinger is a customer-ready option for the Apache).

 

And I bet a case of (good) beer that there's "Doctrine" for helo A2A.

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Well, A-10's carry Sidewinders, right?

 

If a Fulda Gap scenario ever played out we would see extensive helo on helo combat. Just like in WW 1 when the recon planes began arming up to take each other down, you'd have helo's picking each other off as targets of opportunity at first, and then it'd go from there.

 

If a laser guided Hellfire/Vikhr can take down a moving tank, it can just as easily take a low & slow helo trying to snipe from cover.

 

Sidewinder & Stinger have been available on helo's for years (and Stinger is a customer-ready option for the Apache).

 

And I bet a case of (good) beer that there's "Doctrine" for helo A2A.

 

 

Sticking sidewinders on any given aircraft doesn't make it a Fighter or seriously viable for the sort of A2A roles fighters perform :doh:

 

 

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Like in A10's cases ( or in certain helicopters) they are meant for self defense, in event they are intercepted by Fighters just so they aren't helpless Pinyatas

 

 

 

 

 

Helos are all designed for A/G. SO please dont try to spin with strawman logic. when comparing helos it should be only for thier designed purpose. AFAIK no Helicopter is designed for A2A combat in mind. These arent Fighters. If you want air to air combat, subsonic Ground ponders or helicopters arent the sort of modules you should be looking to buy.


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Still, the Gazelle loaded exclusively with Stingers might qualify as a chopper killer... I doubt they are there as point defense against fighters or fighter-bombers...

 

Molds or categories also change coming back to WWI, "Scouts" converted to "Pursuit".... maybe one day there will be doctrine and a specific role for helicopters as killer scouts helicopters.

 

Specially when nobody takes care of the choppers, they have no assigned CAP or ESCORT ;) Maybe helicopter corps commanders got tired of being sent to supposedly secure airspace (where Air superiority was achieved) that turned out not as secure....

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Still, the Gazelle loaded exclusively with Stingers might qualify as a chopper killer... I doubt they are there as point defense against fighters or fighter-bombers...

 

Molds or categories also change coming back to WWI, "Scouts" converted to "Pursuit".... maybe one day there will be doctrine and a specific role for helicopters as killer scouts helicopters.

 

 

 

 

 

ww1 doesn't in any way compare to modern era combat. there is no parallel to draw at a time when planes at the beggining of ww1 were only for scout purposes before people realized there was a need for Fighters to shoot down other planes and bombers to attack surface targets you know especially considering that the book on combat aviation was just starting to be written.

 

 

next people will compare a Muskets from Napolean era to a current service AR?

 

seriously totally different technology and different doctrines for the periodic equipment available

 

 

 

Specially when nobody takes care of the choppers, they have no assigned CAP or ESCORT ;) Maybe helicopter corps commanders got tired of being sent to supposedly secure airspace (where Air superiority was achieved) that turned out not as secure....

 

 

 

 

That helicopter corps commander is almost certainly more likely to get tired from Surface to air threats than he is of Air threats. Especially as USSR ( and current day RU) have far more vareity of Surface to AIR systems protecting mechanized and armored units. Sure in contested environments helicopters can be armed with stingers or sidewinders, ( at least some of them can) no one ever said they couldnt, but these are for self defense purposes. A Cobra isnt going to be be chasing down MIG's, but merely firing these off in "oh ****" moment in event they do get intercepted by fixed wing.


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Chinook for me. There was a loaded gunship version also.

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Since I like the Kamov-50 flight model with its coaxial rotors much more than that of the Mi-24 and the Mi-8 for its better stability, I wou!d like to see:

 

either:

 

Ka-35

 

or

 

Ka-226 T

 

or both

 

The Ka-35 would be a good contender for the missions the Mi-8 does, and all the missions of this helo could be ported to the Ka-35.

The Ka-226 would be a cool utility/black ops insertion/recon helo.

 

 


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6 hours ago, dertien said:

Since I like the Kamov-50 flight model with its coaxial rotors much more than that of the Mi-24 and the Mi-8 for its better stability, I wou!d like to see:

 

either:

 

Ka-35

 

or

 

Ka-226 T

 

or both

 

The Ka-35 would be a good contender for the missions the Mi-8 does, and all the missions of this helo could be ported to the Ka-35.

The Ka-226 would be a cool utility/black ops insertion/recon helo.

 

 

 

 

I like Kamov helicopters as well, but this two, Ka-35 and Ka-226T are practically a prototypes produced just a few years ago. Not even serially produced standard. There is close to zero data available so they would heve to be totally unrealistic and use fictional systems. Ka-226T is civilian helicopter for now.

Ka-35 is an early warning helicopter so it's whole electronic suite would have to be totally fictional or nonexsistent at all so it even wouldn't have real purpose in DCS without it.

 

Classic Ka-25 or Ka-27 would be nice, used by Soviet and Russian Navy, but they would require the anti-submarine warfare to truly show their potential, just like SH-60 Seahawk.

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For me, some I can think of are:

 

- AH-1W and/or AH-1F (80s or up to early 90s versions pls)

- Another "heavier end of medium lift" bird like Super Frelon, Sea King family, Cougar and/or Caracal

- Perhaps an oddball red side light helicopter like Mi-2

- Or maybe PZL W-3 Sokol

- Very unlikely to happen pipedreams I would find cool: Rooivalk, Ka-52, Mi-28N

- Some sort of Cayuse, Little Bird, MD Defender etc type helo

- Last, UH-60, by some distant margin, but I'd still find it interesting anyway.

 

Edit: Something unique like a Chinook or Sea Knight would be crazy cool too. Or other really heavy things like Tarhe, Jolly Green Giant, CH-53E, Mi-6, Mi-10, Mi-26 etc.


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My wishlist for helicopters:

-AH-1W Super Cobra (not really a fan of the four bladed AH-1Z Viper, dont know why, Super Cobra is my favorite)

-UH-60 Black Hawk (for me, after the Huey, the must have Helo)

-Bo-105/PAH-1 (i like this little bird)

and with the future release of the AH-64D, i hope there will be the AH-64A too.

Waiting for a Su-17/22, Su-34, F/A-18 Super Hornet and F-4F Phantom II

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On 10/6/2021 at 9:14 PM, bies said:

 

I like Kamov helicopters as well, but this two, Ka-35 and Ka-226T are practically a prototypes produced just a few years ago. Not even serially produced standard. There is close to zero data available so they would heve to be totally unrealistic and use fictional systems. Ka-226T is civilian helicopter for now.

Ka-35 is an early warning helicopter so it's whole electronic suite would have to be totally fictional or nonexsistent at all so it even wouldn't have real purpose in DCS without it.

 

Classic Ka-25 or Ka-27 would be nice, used by Soviet and Russian Navy, but they would require the anti-submarine warfare to truly show their potential, just like SH-60 Seahawk.

Yes, I goofed up.

The Kamov I meant was the Ka-32 like the one used by Heliswiss heavylift. Yes it's a civilian helicopter, but so is the Christen Eagle, so I don't see any issues there.

Since it's civilian, the systems would be declassified which is a plus, and it could be outfitted with door gunners and act as a troop transporter / coaxial rotor "gunbus" version of the Mi-8.

absolutely fantastic helicopter.

The South African "Rooivalk" would also be cool to scratch that South African Mercenary itch.

 

 

 


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On 10/17/2021 at 11:23 AM, de_Lutz said:

My wishlist for helicopters:

-AH-1W Super Cobra (not really a fan of the four bladed AH-1Z Viper, dont know why, Super Cobra is my favorite)

-UH-60 Black Hawk (for me, after the Huey, the must have Helo)

-Bo-105/PAH-1 (i like this little bird)

and with the future release of the AH-64D, i hope there will be the AH-64A too.

More NATO aircraft... I feel nauseous. 

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