Concerned Customer

[Grab]

Grab why don't you wait until they finish their addons and then complain if you're not happy.

 

Definitely not complaining. I think this thread is in TLDR territory now, but if you're going to make a comment like that you should probably read it.

 

Thanks for replying Wags.

[Amuro]

VRS should do a TacPak for DCS :P..I think instead of having FC3 at all Just keep everything DCS that way it won't be so confusing for some :P...

I just canceled my TacPack pre-order yesterday cause no longer interested in FSX. VRS should make a F/A-18F for DCS.

[whitehot]

I just canceled my TacPack pre-order yesterday cause no longer interested in FSX. VRS should make a F/A-18F for DCS.

 

 

yeah thats fo sho

[Sceptre]

DCS MiG-21 is said to be the "most realistic and accurate simulation of a RADAR to be available on the entertainment market." Or something along those lines:P

 

Will pay anything for it anyways:)

[71st_Mastiff]

I just canceled my TacPack pre-order yesterday cause no longer interested in FSX. VRS should make a F/A-18F for DCS.

 

well that's ashame; as you won't see that wide of a theater in DCS as you do in FSX, the whole world..Plus theres more to VRS TacPac, with all the War pack moders out there making every military vehicle out there it's going to be huge. just think about it. one days news the next days FSX VRS scenarios..and more than likely with in the next 6 months not one or two years down the road. :thumbup:

[HiJack]

well that's ashame; as you won't see that wide of a theater in DCS as you do in FSX, the whole world..Plus theres more to VRS TacPac, with all the War pack moders out there making every military vehicle out there it's going to be huge. just think about it. one days news the next days FSX VRS scenarios..and more than likely with in the next 6 months not one or two years down the road. :thumbup:

Well it's not possible to do a multiplayer event with a load of ppl in different fighter jets. Only in single player mode with FSX, that gets boring after you fired the missiles once. Do you even have enemy aircrafts attacking you in single player in FSX?

 

(HJ)

[Sceptre]

The future of simulation aviation belongs to DCS :P :P :P :P :D

[71st_Mastiff]

Well it's not possible to do a multiplayer event with a load of ppl in different fighter jets. Only in single player mode with FSX, that gets boring after you fired the missiles once. Do you even have enemy aircrafts attacking you in single player in FSX?

 

(HJ)

 

not until TacPak comes out, will this be possible. both Single and MP. :thumbup:

 

The VRS TacPack is the first true single and multi-player combat simulatation modification for FSX (not FS2004 compatible).

In 2010, Vertical Reality Simulation's SuperbugX brought the first true fly-by wire combat aircraft to Flight Simulator X, along with a massive list of never-before seen innovations including true avionic and animated weapons modeling with sophisticated and highly integrated fire control and radar suites. The only problem was that weapons couldn't actually destroy anything in the world. We could simulate their destruction by having avionics such as radar ignore them when the hit occurred, but they would always keep flying. The TacPack will change everything you thought you knew about what was possible in Flight Simulator.

[astrospud]

Not to mention you are (or were) supporting a passionate and talented crew of devs. I'm still waiting, but remain patient because I am looking forward to it and know full well that they don't have the resources to allocate to the project like ED does.

Hell, only one of the team is actually able to work on it full time. Give them some more time. They will come up with the goods.

[Pyroflash]

Buy whatever you want to buy, that is how the free market economy works if I am not mistaken.

 

My take on it though is that DCS has the potential to be a lot more customizable by the developers in terms of how everything gets integrated. FSX 3rd party developers really cannot delve too deep inside of what makes the game run, and for the most part it is very difficult to manipulate the core game structure. They also have no way to share, collaborate, or influence further development of the sim as a whole; heck, even if they could communicate with the devs, it wouldn't do them any good because the studio is closed and as such the game is no longer in development anyways. The future is either DCS, X-Plane 10, or Flight.

 

Wait, make that DCS or X-Plane.

[Amuro]

not until TacPak comes out, will this be possible. both Single and MP. :thumbup:

SP will be boring as hell. There will only be basic aggressor AI and target drones, and they won't be introduced till later phases, which may take several years.

[HiJack]

I've said it before and I say it again. FSX is not the way to go to have a live and growing combat simulator. Look to the future with ED and the DCS World and start moving your aircraft models asap :D No other simulator plattform simulates combat in the air, on land and sea in this way. ED is miles ahead of any competitor in the simulator scene

 

(HJ)

[92nd-MajorBug]

VRS should make a F/A-18F for DCS.

Seems it's not going to happen and the people at VRS are very, very bitter that "someone" secured the deal with ED before them.

 

http://forums.vrsimulations.com/forums/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=8548#p61088

 

Still hoping for a DCS : F-18C by ED :)

[NineLine]

Seems it's not going to happen and the people at VRS are very, very bitter that "someone" secured the deal with ED before them.

 

http://forums.vrsimulations.com/forums/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=8548#p61088

 

Still hoping for a DCS : F-18C by ED :)

 

I didnt think any one 3rd Party dev could reserve an aircraft, interesting...

 

And bitter... yes lol

[Nate--IRL--]

Seems it's not going to happen and the people at VRS are very, very bitter that "someone" secured the deal with ED before them.

 

http://forums.vrsimulations.com/forums/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=8548#p61088

 

Still hoping for a DCS : F-18C by ED :)

 

AFAIK there is no restriction on who may develop what (unless it conflicts with ED). I'm open to correction however.

 

Nate

[LawnDart]

I didnt think any one 3rd Party dev could reserve an aircraft, interesting...

 

There appears to be a few misunderstandings of 3rd party aircraft that have lead to some concerns. The primary one being the "watering down" of quality in the DCS brand name. A few points:

 

2- Except for very, very rare cases, one 3rd party choosing to do an aircraft for DCS does not preclude another 3rd party from doing the same aircraft.

 

Thanks,

Matt

 

So, there you have it.

[HiJack]

Seems it's not going to happen and the people at VRS are very, very bitter that "someone" secured the deal with ED before them.

 

http://forums.vrsimulations.com/forums/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=8548#p61088

 

Still hoping for a DCS : F-18C by ED :)

Na, that thread is just normal user spam ;)

[Nate--IRL--]

I'd sign up to inform "VRS Varmint" of the correct situation but I have to purchase VRS first - something i meant to do a few weeks ago actually.

 

Could somebody else who own VRS post Matt's clarification over there.

 

Nate

[Deadsix]

Very unprofessional in my opinion

[Double_D]

I'd sign up to inform "VRS Varmint" of the correct situation but I have to purchase VRS first - something i meant to do a few weeks ago actually.

 

Could somebody else who own VRS post Matt's clarification over there.

 

Nate

 

 

I could do that for you...:thumbup:

[secret1962]

There appears to be a few misunderstandings of 3rd party aircraft that have lead to some concerns. The primary one being the "watering down" of quality in the DCS brand name. A few points:

 

1- We are very careful about who we allow a license and we have high standards of what we will agree to publish through DCS. If a product is of low quality, it won't be integrated.

 

2- Except for very, very rare cases, one 3rd party choosing to do an aircraft for DCS does not preclude another 3rd party from doing the same aircraft.

 

3- We plan a very clear DCS branding (title) name distinction between Eagle developed DCS aircraft and those of third party. There will be no confusion of who developed the title.

 

Thanks,

Matt

 

In very very very very very very very rare cases they can do such thing. Post them this quote from Wags.

 

 

Here is a list of all the aircraft VRS intends to produce for DCS. No other developers may produce any of these aircraft, since we and we alone have said on Facebook that we intend to produce them. We have no experience with 99.999% of these aircraft, but we're cool, we have a bunch of inexperienced dudes around that wanna help, we have access to TurboSquid, and we have a genuine pirated copy of 3D Studio. We also have lots of books from the library and footage from Top Gun that we're sure will be enough to ensure the quality of these aircraft. Oh, and we're going to make them all this year. We will have another list available for next year's aircraft shortly...

 

...

 

 

Seriously ? All this year ? Are they crazy ?

 

If you don't know what I am talking about go http://forums.vrsimulations.com/forums/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=8548#p61088 and check how many planes they want to make ;)

 

It's a troll of course

We have no experience with 99.999% of these aircraft, but we're cool, we have a bunch of inexperienced dudes around that wanna help, we have access to TurboSquid, and we have a genuine pirated copy of 3D Studio.

 

Edited June 20, 2012 by secret1962

[Sceptre]

Mr. "VRS Varmint" is acting like he owns DCS:P

Someone should inform him that obviously Wags and the team own it and not him, and that I am pretty sure you can't make a list of about every single military jet that may be ever made for DCS and say: "Right NO-ONE is making these planes because WE HAVE ALREADY SEEN ABOUT 60 YEARS INTO THE FUTURE."

 

:spam_laser:

[nemises]

^^ I think that was meant as a joke / sarcasm

[NineLine]

^^ I think that was meant as a joke / sarcasm

 

+1

 

I think he was under the impression that people were laying claim to planes, when really that isnt the case...

[cichlidfan]

I thought enough controversy got generated here, unaided, without needing to look to other forum's posts for inspiration. :P