Einherjer Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 Ah ok Joey, yes a refueller to refuel aircraft ;) Troll a la la laaaaaa!! Two weeks ;) Two weeks??? Link to comment
NeilWillis Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 Ok, but WHICH two weeks? Link to comment
Ells228 Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 Two weeks sometime in the future, unless it's in the past, hmm or may even be the present... Link to comment
kabalah Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 Two weeks sometime in the future, unless it's in the past, hmm or may even be the present... The one who controls the past conquers the future. :) Link to comment
Ells228 Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 Kane from Command & Conquer? Used to, and still do, love that series of games. Link to comment
Einherjer Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 Right :) I remember the DOS Installation of red alert ... That was not a installier ... It was an experience Link to comment
kabalah Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 A bit off topic. Red Alert: Hell March http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Tb-gI_pFog0 Link to comment
NeilWillis Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 Anyway you lot, stop pestering Ells, he's got lots of work to do, and you're keeping him from it. That Tornado won't make itself you know!!! :) :) :) Link to comment
Ells228 Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 hahaha Neil I played the latest C&C online but got bored very quickly. Generals is still my favourite and I have the original CD's for most of them :) Link to comment
Tengah Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 That's ok the tornado can operate from rough terrain roads and short runways:) It can? O.o As far as my aged memory serves the only RAF Fast Jet Aircraft cleared to operate from rough strips and / or roads were the Harrier and Jaguar. There were plans to operate Tonka's from certain sections of Autobahn in Western Germany but certainly nothing less. Link to comment
westr Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 Tornado was designed with (STOL) short takeoff and landing characteristics in mind. With the wing sweep and also the thrust reversing buckets it is able to achieve this.:) RYZEN 7 3700X Running at 4.35 GHz NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080Ti 32gb DDR4 RAM @3200 MHz Oculus CV1 NvME 970 EVO TM Warthog Stick & Throttle plus 11" extension. VKB T-Rudder MKIV Link to comment
Stano Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 Tornado was designed with (STOL) short takeoff and landing characteristics in mind. With the wing sweep and also the thrust reversing buckets it is able to achieve this.:) Not sure how wing sweep makes the Tonka STOL and it's thrust reverse buckets hardly get it to stop quick!!!;) Link to comment
westr Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 Not sure how wing sweep makes the Tonka STOL and it's thrust reverse buckets hardly get it to stop quick!!!;) The variable geometry wing lowers it's landing speed, and thrust reversing technology brings all aircraft to a stop quicker. :) RYZEN 7 3700X Running at 4.35 GHz NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080Ti 32gb DDR4 RAM @3200 MHz Oculus CV1 NvME 970 EVO TM Warthog Stick & Throttle plus 11" extension. VKB T-Rudder MKIV Link to comment
Stano Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 The variable geometry wing lowers it's landing speed, and thrust reversing technology brings all aircraft to a stop quicker. :) Either way it most definitely isn't a STOL aircraft like the harrier and always needs a large runway to operate from. As for wing sweep, wasn't that a design factor so the aircraft can go quicker not slower, that's what the flaps and slats are for. As for thrust reverse, there's only so much of that you can do in a Tornado before you re-ingest the exhaust gases (not good). Link to comment
westr Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 Harrier was STOVL. Short take off vertical landing. But trust me tornado was designed with STOL in mind but if you don't want to take my word for it take a look online. If memory serves me correct it was a request of design by Germany more so than the British. The wing enables the tornado to fly faster but also improves low speed handling as well. With the wings swept fully forward and full slats and flaps deployed the tornado has quite a slow approach speed. It certainly couldn't land at such a slow speed with the wings swept aft. And if the thrust reversing had limited effect I don't see why they were added to the design and why they are used. RYZEN 7 3700X Running at 4.35 GHz NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080Ti 32gb DDR4 RAM @3200 MHz Oculus CV1 NvME 970 EVO TM Warthog Stick & Throttle plus 11" extension. VKB T-Rudder MKIV Link to comment
QuiGon Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 It's great to hear that the Tornado is actually on the roadmap. It's my overall favorite AC and i can't wait to get my hands on that thing. :joystick: But that announcement leads to two questions on my side: - Since the Tornado is a two seater, i wonder how you VEAO guys will implement that? (multicrew? MP/SP?) - My 2nd question is about the variants of the Tornado. Will the british GR1 be the only variant beeing developed or is there a chance for the german IDS variant since I'm much more interested in that? Anyways, I'm really looking forward for this cold war masterpiece comming to DCS (in a playable version of course). Keep up the good work! :thumbup: Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment
westr Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 I'd love to know if the terrain following radar will be modelled Chris Pman?:smilewink: I think they are going to get fed up with my tornado questions. It's all to early for them to say I think I would imagine they are really busy with existing/current projects. But you make a good point about the back seat, maybe we shall get an idea when we purchase the hawk in how the rear seat will be implemented. I think that we are able to access the rear seat in the veao hawk aren't we unless I'm mistaken? RYZEN 7 3700X Running at 4.35 GHz NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080Ti 32gb DDR4 RAM @3200 MHz Oculus CV1 NvME 970 EVO TM Warthog Stick & Throttle plus 11" extension. VKB T-Rudder MKIV Link to comment
QuiGon Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 I don't really know anything about the Hawk apart from that it is a trainer AC which makes it uninteresting for me. But that also means that the back seat just duplicates the controls of the front seat. In the Tornado on the other hand the two seats are totally different. While the front seat is for the pilot with the respective controls, gauges and displays the back seat is for the WSO (weapons system officer) and has totally different controls and displays to provide an efficent work share between the two crewman. So it won't be possible to just make the back seat optional like it is the case with the co-pilot in the Huey. Intel i7-12700K @ 8x5GHz+4x3.8GHz + 32 GB DDR5 RAM + Nvidia Geforce RTX 2080 (8 GB VRAM) + M.2 SSD + Windows 10 64Bit DCS Panavia Tornado (IDS) really needs to be a thing! Link to comment
Daryl1586 Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 I'd love to know if the terrain following radar will be modelled Chris Pman LOL....ChrisPman. Say it fast :lol: .....I'll get my coat. 1 Link to comment
SkateZilla Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 LOL....ChrisPman. Say it fast :lol: .....I'll get my coat. Crispy Man? Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs Link to comment
joey45 Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 Crispy... As in nandos crispy??? The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45 Link to comment
Ells228 Posted August 7, 2014 Share Posted August 7, 2014 All good questions and stuff we'll get into when we start development. If it's Pman then definitely Nandos crispy ;) Link to comment
westr Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 LOL....ChrisPman. Say it fast :lol: .....I'll get my coat. Hmm, I feel I may have inadvertently started something..... RYZEN 7 3700X Running at 4.35 GHz NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080Ti 32gb DDR4 RAM @3200 MHz Oculus CV1 NvME 970 EVO TM Warthog Stick & Throttle plus 11" extension. VKB T-Rudder MKIV Link to comment
Pman Posted August 8, 2014 Share Posted August 8, 2014 I'd love to know if the terrain following radar will be modelled Chris Pman?:smilewink: I think they are going to get fed up with my tornado questions. It's all to early for them to say I think I would imagine they are really busy with existing/current projects. But you make a good point about the back seat, maybe we shall get an idea when we purchase the hawk in how the rear seat will be implemented. I think that we are able to access the rear seat in the veao hawk aren't we unless I'm mistaken? Just to touch on the backseat question You will be able to yes, but it won't be a feature that comes straight away at the point of the public beta it's something that will come later down the road. All the other points it's too early to give too many details of the Tornado as it is not in active development yet Pman Link to comment
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