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I am in the process of building a new system, and my choices are either a GTX 570 or 670- the 670 being $150 more expensive... which I could always use towards a TrackIR system IF the 570 would be as effective with the DCS A10C sim.

 

I plan to connect my 42" TV and an addition 24" TV running at 1900x1080- the second monitor for displaying gauges and MFD panels. Since I only plan to use two monitors, I think the 570 would work... but... I also want to make sure I can run the A10C sim without any bottlenecks.

 

The processor will be an Ivy Bridge 3570K OC'd to 4.4Ghz with 8GB G.Skill RAM on a ASUS P8Z77-V MB.

 

So the 570 or 670??

 

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An 570 is enough and it does run 2 monitors (check my sig), make sure your have the following ports: HDMI, DVI digital and another analogic (which can be used with an adapter for older monitors). Most 570s have only 1 port of each type.

 

Also, bear in mind an 570 is not going to last very long, so its a question of cheap VS future proof. If you buy an 570 now you can always upgrade with a better GFX than the 670 down the line.

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The MSI N570GTX Twin Frozr II comes with two DVI and one mini-HDMI- I don't need support for older monitors, since both of the ones I have are HDMI and I already have DVI to HDMI cables. :thumbup:

 

However, one of my concerns about the 570 is that it is older technology, whereas the 670 just came out around May and is PCI-E 3.0 x16 which the Ivy Bridge processor and ASUS motherboard both support. It also has 2GB RAM and has two DVI, one HDMI, and one Display Port. From the comparisons I've seen, the 670 runs about 34% or more faster than the 570.

 

May be worth the extra $150 to go with the 670.

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My brother has a 570 twinfrozr and loves it, its is a good 570 design. :)

 

Dont let the PCIE 3X be the deciding factor, its doesnt inpact perfomance, not even with SLI setups.

 

GTX 670 is an awsome card for the price.

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No, the PCIE 3.0 isn't a deciding factor, but in terms of future capability, at least it is there.

 

The MSI GTX 570 Twin Frozr was the best from the research that I did, and is going for $250 right now.

 

The GTX 670 I am considering is the Galaxy GTX 670 GC (standard, not the twin fan version). I've seen that several people are having problems with the major brand 670 cards, but none of the reviews on the Galaxy have expressed any problems with them... plus, the Galaxy GC comes already overclocked. From the benchmarks I've seen, the Galaxy GC 670 is right on par with the 680. Right now Newegg has a 7% discount on the Galaxy card which expires at midnight PST on 7/31; it roughly comes out to being $150 more than the 570.

 

The other pluses for the 670; it uses less power and also supports 3+1 monitors versus the 2 monitor only for the 570. So if I should ever want to add another, at least the 670 is all ready to go.

 

UPDATE:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127685

I am thinking about spending an extra $60 and going with the MSI Twin Frozr IV version. Better cooling and better support. The Galaxy card, however, currently has a $20 rebate and free shipping, so that would bring the overall cost down to $380 vs $440 (incl shipping) for the MSI.

 

Any thoughts between the Galaxy and MSI cards??


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I have the 570 Phantom, and it's solid as a rock. Nothing I've thrown at is yet has put it below 40 FPS, including pCARS, BF3, Crysis 2 (With Hi Res Textures + DX11) and DCS A-10C.

 

Are you running dual monitors? That is my concern... running the A10C with a dual monitor setup both running 1900x1080 res- how much of a hit would that cause the single GTX 570 on the A10C's fps?

 

I am leaning back towards the GTX 570 Twin Frozr, as long as I can get a positive response to this question. I cannot see spending an additional $150+ if the 570 will do the job; I don't play a lot of graphically intensive games, but mainly want a card that can run the A10C without having to lower the settings or at least not lower them drastically.


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Yeah, always twin screens. That's with Helios running a second screen full of gauges plus MFCD's, RWR, Digi Clock , UHF Repeater and CMSC outputs. In other games I just have the Steam games page/ racing track maps etc running on it.

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That's exactly the type of setup I am going for... using the secondary monitor with Helios for cockpit gauges and MFD display.

 

So basically it sounds like the 670 would be overkill for my purposes- since I usually run older flight or racing sims anyway. I just didn't want to scrimp on the graphics card, only to be disappointed with A10C performance. But it sounds like the GTX 570 would work- especially with the 3570K oc'd to 4.4Ghz and 8GB RAM. ;-) I've heard that CPU performance can be more of a factor than GPU with the A10C.

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Note that CPU is also a major player in graphics configuration.

 

However, if you do not have a TrackIR unit, and obtaining it is dependent on saving the money from the GPU purchase, go for the 570. If you can still get a trackIR, or can get it within a reasonable amount of time, I'd say the 670 is easily worth the extra money.

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Note that CPU is also a major player in graphics configuration.

 

Yes, that is why I mentioned the 3570k oc'd to 4.4Ghz, which is equal to a Sandy Bridge oc'd at 4.8Ghz... so I shouldn't have any problems with a CPU bottleneck.

 

However, if you do not have a TrackIR unit, and obtaining it is dependent on saving the money from the GPU purchase, go for the 570. If you can still get a trackIR, or can get it within a reasonable amount of time, I'd say the 670 is easily worth the extra money.

 

Well, since I still need to buy the second monitor, TrackIR, DCS A10C sim, AND the Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS flight system... a savings of $150 would be very helpful. :music_whistling: I currently have the Thrustmaster T.Flight HOTAS-X stick, but absolutely love the Warthog HOTAS (I've used one before and it is incredible!).

 

Is there any specific reason that the 670 would be better than the 570 in the A10C sim with the two monitor setup I described?

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Well, between those generations nVidia has done a lot of work in multi-monitor support, though I don't know for sure if this is relevant to 2-screen setups. But put it like this: the 670 is only scoring a couple percent lower than a 680 in many benchmarks and game tests, but consider the price difference.

 

Given your context though, yeah, you'll probably be fine with a 570, but I do feel that it is a bit of a shame to purchase one of those at this time when there's something like the 670 around. There's also the coming 660Ti, might want to wait to see the details of that one.

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I can't wait... I am building the system and need to make a selection by Tuesday... I've already purchased the motherboard and memory (both on sale earlier this week), so I need to make sure they work before the 30-day return policy is up. :cry: I don't even have an older graphics card that I can use, as I've been sitting without a gaming system for almost two years now since the last one died and I sold all the working components.

 

I did notice that the 670 can be oc'd to virtually match the 680... but again, for my purposes, it would be overkill. I don't game that much, and when I do, it tends to be older flight sim/racing games... I expect the A10C will be the most taxing sim that I use on it. But since the A10 is my favorite aircraft, the expense that I'm putting into it will be worth it.

 

If I didn't have so many other components left to buy, I'd probably just spend the extra $150 just to have the latest and greatest. But, since the reality is that I probably wouldn't ever come close to pushing the 670 with what I play, I think it would be a waste.

 

Update 7/31/12:

Decision was made... I ordered the MSI GTX 570 Twin Frozr today. ;-)


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SYSTEM: ASUS P8Z77-V // Intel i5-3570k Ivy Bridge 3.4Ghz o.c. 4.4Ghz // 8GB G.Skill Sniper DDR3 PC2133 9-11-10-28 // MSI 570GTX Twin Frozr 1.25GB PCI-E 2.0 x16 // Win7 64-bit Home Premium ~~ DISPLAY: Sanyo 42" HDTV@1900x1080 ~~ DRIVES: Intel 330 series 60G Maple Crest SSD SATA III // WD 4000AAKS 400GB SATA II // WD Scorpio (laptop drive) 320GB SATA II ~~ CASE: AZZA Hurrican 2000 Full Tower // Cooler Master 750W P.S.

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