docfu Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Hi ED, I realize for non-track IR users the "zoom" effect during the mission start is probably a nice effect to get them into the cockpit, but for me as a TrackIR user it just means I have to wait 10 sections and then reset the Zoom on the cockpit. Is there any way to disable this? docfu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speed Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 (edited) AFAIK, there is no way to disable it. Personally, I find the effect so distracting that I can't even begin to start the aircraft until it's over. Edited August 14, 2012 by Speed Intelligent discourse can only begin with the honest admission of your own fallibility. Member of the Virtual Tactical Air Group: http://vtacticalairgroup.com/ Lua scripts and mods: MIssion Scripting Tools (Mist): http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=98616 Slmod version 7.0 for DCS: World: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=80979 Now includes remote server administration tools for kicking, banning, loading missions, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docfu Posted August 14, 2012 Author Share Posted August 14, 2012 Glad I'm not the only one that feels that way. Anyone else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
159th_Viper Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 It is an intended feature to cater for all. An inconvenience for TrackIr users, yes. Inconvenience does not however outweigh the benefit afforded to others who do not have TrackIr and for which the feature benefits. You gotta be prepared to take the Good with the Bad. After all, what is a couple of seconds at the end of the day? Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71st_Mastiff Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 doesn't bother me I just wait. " any failure you meet, is never a defeat; merely a set up for a greater come back, " W Forbes "Success is not final, failure is not fatal, it is the courage to continue that counts," Winston Churchill " He who never changes his mind, never changes anything," MSI z690MPG DDR4 || i914900k|| ddr4-64gb PC3200 || MSI RTX 4070Ti|Game1300w|Win10x64| |turtle beach elite pro 5.1|| ViRpiL,T50cm2|| MFG Crosswinds|| VT50CM-plus rotor Throttle || G10 RGB EVGA Keyboard/MouseLogitech || PiMax Crystal VR || 32 Samsung|| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inseckt Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 I just stop it immediately by pressing one of the keyboard zoom buttons once. This shortens the pain somewhat:) Help Beczl with his DCS MiG-21Bis project by Pre-Ordering DCS MiG-21Bis module NOW! CLICK HERE TO GO TO PRE-ORDER PAGE AT INDIEGOGO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
112th_Rossi Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Yeah zoom using the keyboard to stop it. I always have my field of view so that the edge of the cockpit frame is just short of the sides of the monitor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JG14_Smil Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Viper, please name one benefit of this "feature" that no one likes, no one asks for and really does nothing but annoy. not being a smart arse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacknemisis Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 I cant stand either. Wanted to say something about it but I thought I was the only one who felt this way lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinja Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 You gotta be prepared to take the Good with the Bad. After all, what is a couple of seconds at the end of the day? Lol, I've the utmost respect for you Viper, but you wouldn't get far working in a design-lead software firm! ;-) There is no place for a 'oh well, they'll make do' attitude in my company, that's for sure. I'd come down like a ton of bricks on a developer who said that! Yeah... I hate this feature too.... i7@3.5Ghz, ATI 5870, 16GB RAM, win7 64bit, TH2GO, Track-IR, 4screen pit, TM WArthog HOTAS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShuRugal Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Inconvenience does not however outweigh the benefit afforded to others who do not have TrackIr and for which the feature benefits. before i started using freetrack i found the auto-unzoom feature as annoying as i find it now that i do use freetrack. what "benefit" was i seeing then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom453 Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Feature? I just thought it was a bug (Track IR related). It does bug me a tad, but nothing I'll lose sleep over. I'd be interested to have the benefits explained, as I don't see them myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icemaker Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 As the other, i can't see the benefits of an automated full zoom out! The truth is out there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
159th_Viper Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 i can't see the benefits of an automated full zoom out! It's not automated full zoom out. I'd be interested to have the benefits explained It is to set the view parameters of wide screen monitors to match the same view coverage as what you would get with the default view on a 1280x1024 monitor. Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate--IRL-- Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 It is to set the view parameters of wide screen monitors to match the same view coverage as what you would get with the default view on a 1280x1024 monitor. Ahhh. I always wondered what the baseline standard was. Nate Ka-50 AutoPilot/stabilisation system description and operation by IvanK- Essential Reading Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bushmanni Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 It is to set the view parameters of wide screen monitors to match the same view coverage as what you would get with the default view on a 1280x1024 monitor. Isn't there a way to make it happen instantly instead of 10 seconds wait. DCS Finland: Suomalainen DCS yhteisö -- Finnish DCS community -------------------------------------------------- SF Squadron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cichlidfan Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 It is to set the view parameters of wide screen monitors to match the same view coverage as what you would get with the default view on a 1280x1024 monitor. Can anyone explain why this is needed or desirable? ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate--IRL-- Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Isn't there a way to make it happen instantly instead of 10 seconds wait. Zoom in a tiny bit with Numpad * and then hit Numpad ENTER, fixes it back to default instantly. Can anyone explain why this is needed or desirable? Not a clue. Nate Ka-50 AutoPilot/stabilisation system description and operation by IvanK- Essential Reading Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
159th_Viper Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Can anyone explain why this is needed or desirable? Why is it not desirable? It takes you automatically from this - to this - In three (3) seconds only on a 1920x1200 monitor. Would you not agree that view #2 is better? Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterP Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 (edited) Viper, but I was instantly at "to This " with old versions.... -anyway- I dont mind it at all - I have bound a button to send center Trackir and kp-enter at once . I also tweaked the starting FOV to exacty what I need for a good view (93°) -Problem solved! Here is another guess why ED add this feature: On " normal" ratios is it always zooming out gradually... - Ed added it because on older system it could happen the you experience stutters and hangs for several second because the Engine try to render the scene at once - zooming out gradually gives the system enough time to do it without hick-ups. Edited August 14, 2012 by PeterP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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cichlidfan Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 Why is it not desirable? In three (3) seconds only on a 1920x1200 monitor. Would you not agree that view #2 is better? It is not desirable because I have a 2560x1440 monitor and the view I end up with in both the Mustang and the Hog are not what I would call 'better'. It is not a big deal but, I do not see it as beneficial. Also, if you were going to optimize the view for a specific resolution then 1920x1080 would have been a more appropriate choice since that is more common. ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
159th_Viper Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 See, it's entirely subjective - for me it's ideal. One thing we can champion for is to have the 'feature' optional. I'll do that and see how far I can get with it. 1 Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterP Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 (edited) while we are on it - a slider to set the starting FOV in degrees would be very handy. (["viewAngle"]) ...and a slider for the vertical center point too. (["vAngle"]) so all this kind of post would be obsolete: Way to center the default "centered" camera? @ cichilidfan - editing the line# 1055 (? - not really sure - whatever -look out for Snap[11][13]) of the \Config\View\SnapViewsDefault.lua is what you are looking for to do it in the A-10C . Snap[11][13]["viewAngle"] = 100-- (FOV in degrees) - this is for KP-enter scroll down to the new P-51D block under it - and look out for "default" snap views. Give me a post when you need further assistance - I will look it up in detail tomorrow. (sitting with the laptop in a park right now and don't have the swap-drive with me) Edited August 14, 2012 by PeterP 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
159th_Viper Posted August 14, 2012 Share Posted August 14, 2012 while we are on it - a slider to set the starting FOV in degrees would be very handy. ...and a slider for the vertical center point too. That will be one for the Wishlist forum. Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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