AlphaOneSix Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 Does anyone know about SAS/Autopilot for the UH-1H? The UH-1H does not have SAS/SCAS or any kind of autopilot. Does it work the same way as the Ka-50? Sure, assuming you leave all of the channels off on the Ka-50. ;) Is it attitude holding or just dampening or both? Neither. Rotor dampening is provided by the stabilizer bar on the rotor head. How stable is the Huey without it? Depends on the pilot. :D For a new pilot, I think most will agree that's it doesn't feel very stable at all. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundowner.pl Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 Does anyone know about SAS/Autopilot for the UH-1H?No dash-13 powered UH-1H came with autopilot from factory. Only the twin-engine 212 model got AFCS. There are some aftermarket ones, although some require the optional dual hydraulic kit. And the SOTAS JUH-1H also was retrofitted with autopilot. edit. Darn, AlphaOneSix was faster ;) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] "If a place needs helicopters, it's probably not worth visiting." - Nick Lappos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejjvid Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 So, we're all gonna crash? :D i7 8700K | GTX 1080 Ti | 32GB RAM | 500GB M.2 SSD | TIR5 w/ Trackclip Pro | TM Hotas Warthog | Saitek Pro Flight Rudder [sigpic]http://www.132virtualwing.org[/sigpic] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundowner.pl Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 You will improvise, adapt and overcome :pilotfly: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] "If a place needs helicopters, it's probably not worth visiting." - Nick Lappos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy10uk Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 So, we're all gonna crash? :D :thumbup::lol: YEP Cowboy10uk [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Fighter pilots make movies, Attack pilots make history, Helicopter pilots make heros. :pilotfly: Corsair 570x Crystal Case, Intel 8700K O/clocked to 4.8ghz, 32GB Vengeance RGB Pro DDR4 3200 MHZ Ram, 2 x 1TB M2 drives, 2 x 4TB Hard Drives, Nvidia EVGA GTX 1080ti FTW, Maximus x Hero MB, H150i Cooler, 6 x Corsair LL120 RGB Fans And a bloody awful Pilot :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suchacz Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 The BIG difference against Akula is that in this bird your only concern is to piloting it and nothing else is not bothering you. You will have a copilot/weapons operator by your side, it would be very unusual for us, the Ka-50 pilots :smilewink: Per aspera ad astra! Crucial reading about DCS: Black Shark - Black Shark and Coaxial Rotor Aerodynamics, Black Shark and the Trimmer, Black Shark – Autopilot: Part 1, Black Shark – Autopilot: Part 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derk Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 Actually, pilots have rocket control, co-pilot (or peter pilot) has flexguns (miniguns). And of course your crew chief and some soldier with doorgunner training have their crew weapons (m60 in this case). So not only flying, also some shooting and you have to take care of them aswell, while they cover your arse. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundowner.pl Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 With M6/M16 or M21 system, pilot can also fire machine guns or in case of XM5 - also the grenade launcher. It's selectable on the intervalometer panel on central console. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] "If a place needs helicopters, it's probably not worth visiting." - Nick Lappos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suchacz Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 (edited) Youre right, I forgot the unguided rockets. So you are no ordinary taxidriver, you are a taxidriver with rockets :thumbup: All weapons that the pilot can operate are firing coaxialy with the helo. I'm really looking forward to fly this legendary bird, while my human crew members will be unleashing hell :gun_smilie: The only things that spoils the fun are non-colidable trees :( It is strange, when you are below the treeline and AAgun on the other side of the forrest, maybe click away, can see you and shoot you down... Edited November 27, 2012 by Suchacz Per aspera ad astra! Crucial reading about DCS: Black Shark - Black Shark and Coaxial Rotor Aerodynamics, Black Shark and the Trimmer, Black Shark – Autopilot: Part 1, Black Shark – Autopilot: Part 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundowner.pl Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 Actually, not only rockets :D Depends on what Belsimtek want to model, there was a lot of different armament options to be hung on the bomb racks: - XM18 7.62mm minigun pods with 1500 rounds of ammo; - XM14 12.7mm M3 (1200rpm .50cal Browning) pod with 750 rounds; - CBU-72 cluster bombs; - BLU-1 napalm bombs; - Mk-81 dumb bombs (El Salvador and Lebanon); Not to mention that HH-1K was a test platform for AGM-122 Sidearm, short range anti-radiation missile. There was also UH-1D called "Big Daddy" that had Pontiac M39 20mm (1500rpm!) cannon strapped to its belly ;) Other systems, like XM26 TOW, XM30 30mm, and XM31 20mm were not add-ons like previously listed, but were a single weapon system together with the helicopter (UH-1B in those cases). Plus, it is a standardized bomb rack, and other worldwide users can hang anything they want on it - one example is the French 68mm SNEB launcher that many of you saw in "Apocalypse Now" movie. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] "If a place needs helicopters, it's probably not worth visiting." - Nick Lappos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver_Dragon Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 Other systems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derk Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Never saw that graph, thanks! I recon the M3 subsystem is the flare dispenser? Now in the dash-10 mission equipment section they go on about the M56/M132 mine dispenser subsystems. I don't see them listed here, but they would be nice to have and i'm sure many a CA commander agrees. I hope that in due time we will see the same diversity in weapon systems from Belsimtek. Though i rather fly slicks myself. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundowner.pl Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 M3 is the ARA (Aerial Rocket Artilery) system - first system mounted on Hueys and earlier on CH-34 firing 2,75" FFAR rockets (Mk.4 and Mk.40 ). Those had 2 launcher blocks each holding 4x6 rockets: Those were also, on some occasions, mounted together with the M22 subsystem, giving up to 48 rockets and two guided missiles: But in South East Asia, it was too much weight for dash-5 and dash-9 powered Bravos, so rocket launchers either were not fully loaded, or, like on the photo above, stripped down. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] "If a place needs helicopters, it's probably not worth visiting." - Nick Lappos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edward007 Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Who is on your last photo? Looks like R. Mason, writer of ChickenHawk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundowner.pl Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Edwin W. Fuller Photo was taken by Russ Warrier in 1968 at LZ Evans. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] "If a place needs helicopters, it's probably not worth visiting." - Nick Lappos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suchacz Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 (edited) Why were the latest posts deleted? :( Did they broke some forum rules? EDIT> I'm really sorry, nothing was deleted, I mixed up two totally different topics together :doh: Edited November 28, 2012 by Suchacz Per aspera ad astra! Crucial reading about DCS: Black Shark - Black Shark and Coaxial Rotor Aerodynamics, Black Shark and the Trimmer, Black Shark – Autopilot: Part 1, Black Shark – Autopilot: Part 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleEye Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 (edited) Those were also, on some occasions, mounted together with the M22 subsystem, giving up to 48 rockets and two guided missiles: Didn`t know that they had guided missiles back then. Or was it just few test examples? Found this: Three UH-1Bs were in Vietnam in 1972, to test the new TOW anti-tank guided missile. When the North Vietnamese launched their Easter Offensive, the three were sent into combat. Their rockets devastated the NVA tank columns, and they played a major role in several key battles Why were the latest post deleted? Did they broke some forum rules? Hmm, haven´t seen more then the posts we have currently? What posts do you mean? Edited November 28, 2012 by EagleEye Deutsche DCS-Flughandbücher SYSSpecs: i7-4790K @4GHz|GA-Z97X-SLI|16GB RAM|ASUS GTX1070|Win10 64bit|TrackIR5|TM Warthog/Saitek Pro Pedals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundowner.pl Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 Basically every helicopter weapon system was experimental at that time. the XM22 was pretty much first guided anti tank missile used on those helicopters, but wasn't very reliable, therefore work continued into development of the TOW missile and the XM26 subsystem that saw combat in Vietnam and proved to be very effective, even though its first combat use wasn't very glamorous, as the first two targets were US M41 tank and a howitzer that fell into NVA hands. The AGM-22 missiles didn't saw much use though, as they proved to have rather poor accuracy. Missile was directly controlled with a joystick - similarly to the AGM-12 Bullpup missile, but controlled via wire, not radio. The range was short, and controls unprecise - at best. Later XM26 TOW was controlled by a computer that tracked fired missile, and operator only had to keep the crosshair on target to hit it. There were still some problems with firing from a moving platform - like loosing lock on the missile, or snagging control wire on tree branches, but it was improvement overall. later that system was used on Cobra attack helicopters and exported Hughes 369s, never again to be used by Hueys. As for your quote, there were only two XM26 equipped Huey send to Vietnam, the third stayed in the States at Fort Rucker for more testing and personnel training. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] "If a place needs helicopters, it's probably not worth visiting." - Nick Lappos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy10uk Posted November 28, 2012 Share Posted November 28, 2012 I hope the lack of an update is because, they are getting ready for a Beta, Would love to be test flying this over the Christmas Period. :) Although really intresting reading about the different weapon systems, didnt realise just how much experience and info this community has, it leaves me speechless. Keep up the great work on the Huey, and to the community, keep these stunning info topics going, i love reading them. :) Cowboy10uk [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Fighter pilots make movies, Attack pilots make history, Helicopter pilots make heros. :pilotfly: Corsair 570x Crystal Case, Intel 8700K O/clocked to 4.8ghz, 32GB Vengeance RGB Pro DDR4 3200 MHZ Ram, 2 x 1TB M2 drives, 2 x 4TB Hard Drives, Nvidia EVGA GTX 1080ti FTW, Maximus x Hero MB, H150i Cooler, 6 x Corsair LL120 RGB Fans And a bloody awful Pilot :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EagleEye Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 I hope the lack of an update is because, they are getting ready for a Beta, Would love to be test flying this over the Christmas Period. :) I even would accept it without documentation. Wouldn`t it be funny and interesting to do a startup just by trying?:) It`s not that different from Ka-50, I guess?:laugh: Deutsche DCS-Flughandbücher SYSSpecs: i7-4790K @4GHz|GA-Z97X-SLI|16GB RAM|ASUS GTX1070|Win10 64bit|TrackIR5|TM Warthog/Saitek Pro Pedals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy10uk Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 I even would accept it without documentation. Wouldn`t it be funny and interesting to do a startup just by trying?:) It`s not that different from Ka-50, I guess?:laugh: Sorry you mean you READ the Manual, mmmmmm maybe that's where I'm going wrong. ;) I just keep hitting buttons until something happens. :megalol: cowboy10uk [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Fighter pilots make movies, Attack pilots make history, Helicopter pilots make heros. :pilotfly: Corsair 570x Crystal Case, Intel 8700K O/clocked to 4.8ghz, 32GB Vengeance RGB Pro DDR4 3200 MHZ Ram, 2 x 1TB M2 drives, 2 x 4TB Hard Drives, Nvidia EVGA GTX 1080ti FTW, Maximus x Hero MB, H150i Cooler, 6 x Corsair LL120 RGB Fans And a bloody awful Pilot :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris CDN Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 Battery, inverter, get on the starter, throttle, off the starter, governor. That's about it for the 205. It's phase 2, or as it's more commonly known "flying without dying" that's the tough part. NSDQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundowner.pl Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 Just remember to have the circuit breaker for armament pulled out, you don't want to be the guy who shoot 2.75" rocket across own airfield :thumbup: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] "If a place needs helicopters, it's probably not worth visiting." - Nick Lappos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave317 Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 Don't think i'll get an answer but are we likely to see this before the year is out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evilducky Posted December 1, 2012 Author Share Posted December 1, 2012 According to evils post there "DCS: UH-1H Huey will be available for pre-purchase later this year" It will be. But time will tell. I'm hoping that it is, but if its not, that's ok as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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