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:confused: http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/russia/aa-12.htm

 

scroll down to the section that says R-77

 

http://www.electronicaviation.com/sections/articles/Military/96

 

again scroll down and you have to do some reading but at the bottom is where you will find the range for the R-77

 

http://www.sinodefence.com/missile/airlaunched/r77.asp

 

http://www.softwar.net/rfed.html *Note: 50 miles translates to how many km? It couldnt be 30km

 

All 4 of these sources report that the R-77 is capable of ranges beyond 50km at the very least and I know for certain you dont get LA until your well within 30km so what did i miss?

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At what altitude?

 

There are a few limitations:

 

1. Launch Altitude

2. Launch speed (speeds not yet, actually, but in 1.2 they will matter)

3. Target Altitude

4. Target speed (this one matters - or more specifically, closure matters)

5. Ability of carrier's radar to track the target

6. Target's maneuvering

 

The maximum range for the R77 will probably be attained doing mach 1.5-2.0 (both target and launcher) at about 15000-17000 meters for both targets, using a lofted trajectory and with the target NOT maneuvering at all. This is likely longer than a Mig's ability to lock up a target, and I think the LA limitation at this point is the fighter's radar.

 

The Su-27 can only fire 66km away, due to radar limitations (the R-27ER can travel farther)

 

At lower altitudes, range gets cut down significantly due to thicker air. And if the target maneuvers, forget about hitting anything at 30km range while flying no higher than 3000m ;)

 

That's what you missed ;)

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Im confused

 

That’s good. …it’s part of learning, being confused

 

Now to share my opinion without even looking at presented links. Manufactures present their maximum launch by exaggerating real world tactics. Meaning, they get that number from placing platform launching missile at maximum height, while target approaches at low altitude and high speed. Once again, meaning that missile has a lot of trading of altitude for speed which as a result gives such high range numbers.

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TY I will test your answer and I appreciate you being friendly about your answer. You wouldnt believe how rude people can be when trying to demonstrate how smart and superior in knowledge they are ..... thanx again. :D

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TY I will test your answer and I appreciate you being friendly about your answer. You wouldnt believe how rude people can be when trying to demonstrate how smart and superior in knowledge they are ..... thanx again. :D

It all depends on how question is written to vicious pack of bored, yet full of knowledge readers.

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At what altitude?

 

There are a few limitations:

 

1. Launch Altitude

2. Launch speed (speeds not yet, actually, but in 1.2 they will matter)

3. Target Altitude

4. Target speed (this one matters - or more specifically, closure matters)

5. Ability of carrier's radar to track the target

6. Target's maneuvering

 

And that is all for a clean - non jamming target / no jamming at all around. You can add some more factors like wind, temperature, humidity/rain/snow, radar cross-section, aspect, electromagnetic waves propagation, operator skills, radar search modi.....

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