thinkr Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Does the A10C have a function to Auto Arm Airbrakes when you land. Eg. You just touchdown on the runway during a landing and the air brakes deploy automatically. Modded CapLoz HeliosV2.1_1280x1024.zip 2x 1080p 22"Monitors, Saitek X52, Saitek Combat Rudder Pedals, Trackir5, Win7Pro Pro 64Bit, Intel Q9550 @3.8Ghz, EP45-UD3L, 8GB Ram, Nvidia 560Ti 2GB, 2x 500GB Velociraptor Flaming Cliffs 3 DCS:A10C,KA-50, Huey, Mi-8, WWII Euro 40+ Supporter, Mig21 Falcon 4 BMS IL-2 Sturmovik: 1946 Take on Helicopters Arma 2 AO + PMC + BF All Addons Series Arma 3 EECH & EEAH Medivac & Search and Rescue 4 Series Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueRidgeDx Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 There are a lot of airplanes where you can arm the spoilers to automatically deploy on landing, but fighters don't typically have such a system. The A-10 specifically does not either. "They've got us surrounded again - those poor bastards!" - Lt. Col. Creighton Abrams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel Jaw Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 No, AFAIK its mainly civilian aircraft, then mainly commercial, that have an auto arm for brakes and spoilers etc. "You see, IronHand is my thing" My specs: W10 Pro, I5/11600K o/c to 4800 @1.32v, 64 GB 3200 XML RAM, ASUS RTX3060ti/8GB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speckfire Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 What's next?? Reverse thrust? Viggen anyone??? :) Speed is life !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tailgate Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 What's next?? ... :) Photon torpedoes? :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revelation Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 What's next?? ludicrous speed? Win 10 Pro 64Bit | 49" UWHD AOC 5120x1440p | AMD 5900x | 64Gb DDR4 | RX 6900XT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmokeyTheLung Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 ludicrous speed? We've gone...Plaid System specifications: Computer, joystick, DCS world, Beer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamblue Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 If you want to have airbrakes on landing try deploying them on approach and use the throttle to regulate speed. Asus Sabertooth P67 Motherboard 2600k CPU, 16 gig DDR3, 1600. Samsung 830, 256 gig hard drive, GTX780 Video Card, Warthog Hotas, Razer Mamba mouse. Saitek Combat Rudder Pedals. Trackir 5, Verizon FIOS 25Meg Up/Down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty_M Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 All well and good, Hamblue, but they can't be fully deployed unless there's Weight On Wheels. The world is going mad. Me? I'm doing fine! http://www.twitch.tv/rusty_the_robot https://www.youtube.com/user/RustyRobotGaming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamblue Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Air brakes can't be fully deployed unless there's weight on wheels? Mine look full when under about 150kts. Asus Sabertooth P67 Motherboard 2600k CPU, 16 gig DDR3, 1600. Samsung 830, 256 gig hard drive, GTX780 Video Card, Warthog Hotas, Razer Mamba mouse. Saitek Combat Rudder Pedals. Trackir 5, Verizon FIOS 25Meg Up/Down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty_M Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 I'm pretty sure it's the case that they gain some extra movement range once your wheels touch the ground. The world is going mad. Me? I'm doing fine! http://www.twitch.tv/rusty_the_robot https://www.youtube.com/user/RustyRobotGaming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harzach Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 I'm pretty sure it's the case that they gain some extra movement range once your wheels touch the ground. Are you sure it's not a matter of less deflection at lower speed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamblue Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Either way, if you don't want to worry about them after landing deploy them before and use throttle to keep speed up. Asus Sabertooth P67 Motherboard 2600k CPU, 16 gig DDR3, 1600. Samsung 830, 256 gig hard drive, GTX780 Video Card, Warthog Hotas, Razer Mamba mouse. Saitek Combat Rudder Pedals. Trackir 5, Verizon FIOS 25Meg Up/Down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueRidgeDx Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Speedbrakes are limited to 80% extension unless there is weight on wheels. It is not a function of speed. Approaches should be flown with the Speedbrakes at 40%. Upon touchdown, manually extend the speedbrakes fully. "They've got us surrounded again - those poor bastards!" - Lt. Col. Creighton Abrams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookie Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 (edited) It should also be noted that speedbrakes (military aircraft) and spoilers (civilian aircraft) do not work in the same way, which is why an autoarming system simply doesn´t make much sense in a military environment, while it makes very much sense in the civilian world. When you use the A-10´s speedbrakes, they create drag by forcing themselves into the slipstream. That´s all they do, and they are quite good at it. You will note that the airbrakes on fighters are usually located at the wingtips (A-6, A-10), somewhere along the rear of the fuselage (F-16, MiG-23, Tornado, F-14, F-18) or on top of the fuselage (F-15, SU-27, Typhoon), while in the civilian world they are always (yeah, I know of the BAe-146, Fokker70/100 and co, but let´s keep it simple here) on top of the wing, spanning at least half of the wingspan in most cases. They are there because their purpose is not to create drag (they are far too small for that. Just look at an airliner from head on with its spoilers extended. It makes barely a difference in its crosssection and therefore doesn´t really create much drag), but to dump the lift created by the wing by disrupting the airflow over it. Hence their official name "spoiler" instead of airbrake. When used in flight, only some panels of the spoiler system open up. They destroy enough lift to force the entire airplane to fly at a higher AOA in order to maintain the needed lift, and a higher AOA at the same powersetting (in this case idle) means less speed. When used on the ground, their job is to make sure the wing loses pretty much most of its lift immediately. If the spoilers are armed, all panels of the system are extended all the way once weight on wheels is registered. This causes the wing to stop working, putting all available weight onto the landing gear, pressing it firmly onto the ground so it can use its tremendous braking power. If you watch videos of landing airliners on YouTube and pay close attention, you can often nicely see how the wings droop once the spoilers are deployed. Thats happens because they don´t produce lift anymore once the spoilers are out, so their own weight forces them down. So yeah, that´s why it makes a lot of sense to put an autoarm system for the spoilers into airliners, while doing the same for airbrakes of fighters wouldn´t really have any benefit at all. EDIT: Yes, of course spoilers also create drag, but what I´m saying is that the little drag they do create is negligible in the grand scheme of things. Creating drag just comes with the job, it is not what they are designed to do. They are designed to dump lift. Edited October 23, 2012 by Cookie - Two miles of road lead nowhere, two miles of runway lead everywhere - Click here for system specs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loki_ Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 I predict 10 pages. Thread could have been answered with "no". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueRidgeDx Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Yeah, I don't think the OP was looking for a discussion about the differences between speedbrakes, decelerons, spoilers, roll spoilers, flight spoilers, ground spoilers, multi-function spoilers, Ground Lift Dump, Dynamic Lift Control, Load Alleviataion Function, spoiler intermix, etc... Just use the big switch under your thumb to push 'em out manually after you land. Per the real A-10. "They've got us surrounded again - those poor bastards!" - Lt. Col. Creighton Abrams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookie Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Dynamic Lift Control Now that thing was a brilliant piece of genius, I´d love to discuss it all day long! :D - Two miles of road lead nowhere, two miles of runway lead everywhere - Click here for system specs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty_M Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Yeah, I don't think the OP was looking for a discussion about the differences between speedbrakes, decelerons, spoilers, roll spoilers, flight spoilers, ground spoilers, multi-function spoilers, Ground Lift Dump, Dynamic Lift Control, Load Alleviataion Function, spoiler intermix, etc... Just use the big switch under your thumb to push 'em out manually after you land. Per the real A-10. You forgot plot spoilers :p The world is going mad. Me? I'm doing fine! http://www.twitch.tv/rusty_the_robot https://www.youtube.com/user/RustyRobotGaming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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