CptSmiley Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 (edited) Removed Edited April 6 by CptSmiley 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badger66 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Excellant ..... Best of luck with this . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boomer Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 This actually looks pretty good. Good luck to you. Wishlist: DCS: MiG29M/CMT | DCS: MiG25/31 | DCS: MiG-23MLD | DCS: F16CJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkateZilla Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 is VTAI still working on their F-16 Model? Could propose a Co-Project with them. Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krebs20 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Or your team could consider selling FMs to other 3rd parties. Building a FM is a work of art. Looking forward to seeing your future projects. Whatever they may be. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyroflash Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Good show, looking forward to your future projects, and I fully support what your team is trying to do. If you aim for the sky, you will never hit the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Druid_ Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Nice work & very good of you to open source and share. i7-7700K : 16Gb DDR4 2800 Mhz : Asus Mobo : 2TB HDD : Intel 520 SSD 240gb : RTX 2080ti: Win10 64pro : Dx10 : TrackiR4 : TM Warthog : ASUS ROG SWIFT PG348Q Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jib Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Very nice looking flight model :) Mods I use: KA-50 JTAC - Better Fire and Smoke - Unchain Rudder from trim KA50 - Sim FFB for G940 - Beczl Rocket Pods Updated! Processor: Intel Q6600 @ 3.00GHz GPU: GeForce MSI RTX 2060 6GB RAM: Crucial 8GB DDR2 HDD: 1TBGB Crucial SSD OS: Windows 10, 64-bit Peripherals: Logitech G940 Hotas, TrackiR 5, Voice Activated commands , Sharkoon 5.1 headset. ,Touch Control for iPad, JoyToKey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BR55Sevas Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Looks pretty nice! All I miss is compare diagram for real and in-game parameters, and correlation coefficient between them :D Like here, Yo-Yo show real and ingame Mustang compare http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=87966 Keep info coming! МиГ-29 Fly by wire СДУ Su-27SM second display panel https://www.youtube.com/embed/videoseries?list=PL_2GGwNpWNp_fKXfRtDhIk8s5Jf4a9XHS http://berkuts.ru Пилотажный сервер с роботом | Aerobatic server with PhantomControl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mt5_Roie Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Very nice looking! Coder - Oculus Rift Guy - Court Jester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron886 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Great stuff, quite impressed at your pace. (I think I saw you just getting set up with this only weeks ago?) I'll be interested to see your code, definitely excited to get started with EFMs as soon as I have time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tango Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 (edited) Nice video, but please stop panning - it destroys any sense of motion. Keep the camera in a fixed spot. It is easier it judge its motion then. :) Good luck with your efforts! What are you using for the physics engine? Best regards, Tango. Edited October 22, 2012 by Tango Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkateZilla Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Nice video, but please stop panning - it destroys any sense of motion. Keep the camera in a fixed spot. It is easier it judge its motion then. :) Best regards, Tango. Maybe you want a cockpit view of a low level flight :p Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tango Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Hell yeah! :D Best regards, Tango. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey45 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Same here..... The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speckfire Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Yes please cockpit view low level. Speed is life !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron886 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Yeah just started a couple weeks ago with this after I realized it was possible, I was pumped. I still have a ways to go but I fully intend on providing the code that backs this up :) I may have to get in touch with you about your methods, then, because that's quite efficient! :) With progress like that, you make me think I do have time to build an EFM after all! Like I said, very impressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sobek Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 I may have to get in touch with you about your methods, then, because that's quite efficient! :) With progress like that, you make me think I do have time to build an EFM after all! Like I said, very impressed. Not to knock the OPs efforts, but AFAIK you will have a hard time building a LUT based FM of the same quality for anything else but the Viper, simply because there is nothing of sorts like the NASA report in the public domain for other fighters. It requires a real motherload of data. :) Very nice project though, anything that expands the documentation so people can get into the API more easily is direly needed at this point. Good, fast, cheap. Choose any two. Come let's eat grandpa! Use punctuation, save lives! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
159th_Viper Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Please note that this is NOT one of the intended products to be released by TeamVRC, just a stepping stone in that process That's a great pity. Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moa Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Excellent work. Just yesterday I started working on an F-16 flight model for my sim using the same sources you mentioned. I'm not sure whether you are aware but there is an open source implementation of that NASA paper at Caltech: http://www.cds.caltech.edu/~murray/projects/afosr95-vehicles/models/f16/ I used the Java implementation, since I want to use multi-threading to allow full flight models to be used for each aircraft. The NASA model is ok in flight but the implementation has quite severe deficiencies such as: * Not-a-Number produced at zero airspeed. * no support for negative airspeed (tailslide!) * no model for fuel consumption or transfer between tanks. * no model of mass distribution (important once you add weapons, or stall). * missing the relationship between pilot command and control surface deflection, as in the flight control system (fortunately there is other material out there for this) * no model of ground handling * etc. I don't mean to denigrate your work in any way - it is an awesome achievement to get it into DCS, and so quickly too. All I mean is that the NASA model should be seen as a starting point, but you probably already know this :) Keep up the great work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mt5_Roie Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 I wonder how much money we need to give NASA to run some other aircraft through their wind tunnel. Maybe we should start a kickstarter project for that. Coder - Oculus Rift Guy - Court Jester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron886 Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Not to knock the OPs efforts, but AFAIK you will have a hard time building a LUT based FM of the same quality for anything else but the Viper, simply because there is nothing of sorts like the NASA report in the public domain for other fighters. It requires a real motherload of data. :) Very nice project though, anything that expands the documentation so people can get into the API more easily is direly needed at this point. Hornet. And I have the data. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beagle One Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Yeah just started a couple weeks ago with this after I realized it was possible, I was pumped. I still have a ways to go but I fully intend on providing the code that backs this up :)No that's not possible it was stated a hundred times in the AFM/SFM discussions that such work takes a year.;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moa Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 (edited) For the ground reactions a library like Bullet/JBullet might be a starting point: http://bulletphysics.org/wordpress/ http://jbullet.advel.cz/ Also, there's JSBSim if you want an existing general flight model (not as good as the F-16 model, but will work with other aircraft): http://jsbsim.sourceforge.net/ There is a proposed standard for describing flight models using XML: http://daveml.org/ Of course, you then need to evaluate the model but at least you can exchange the data (there is an example XML file for the F-16 using the well-known NASA data). This is all great stuff. @aaron886: I'd be very interested to find more flight data for the Hornet. I have the NATOPS manuals with performance charts but would be very interested if you have any other data (eg. inertia matrix coefficients). I did have some FORTRAN code around somewhere but I'm not sure if it was as good as the Viper model. Edited October 22, 2012 by Moa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaze Posted October 23, 2012 Share Posted October 23, 2012 Hornet. And I have the data. :D And I can back that up. The amount of data this man has on the Hornet is mind-boggling. i7 7700K | 32GB RAM | GTX 1080Ti | Rift CV1 | TM Warthog | Win 10 "There will always be people with a false sense of entitlement. You can want it, you can ask for it, but you don't automatically deserve it. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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