Rotorhead Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 (edited) Hey there! I've updated to 1.2.2 yesterday and did some testing in the last hours. Aside of another few bugs, there's a major problem with my G940 - the FFB axes are swapped. For example, when I trim right, the stick goes aft instead. I tried to fix this by checking the "SWAP AXIS" option, but it cures only pitch axis, roll trim is reversed then - I trim left, stick goes right and vice-versa. Removing "Config" folder in "Saved Games" and then setting the controls from stratch didn't resolved the issue. In 1.2.1, everything worked just fine. Any help appreciated. Thanks. EDIT: Tested with BS2, A-10C and P-51D with same results. Edited November 9, 2012 by Rotorhead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fangav Posted November 9, 2012 Share Posted November 9, 2012 This is now reported in 3 bug threads, can we get an acknowledgment from someone at ED please. Also which file change could be the cause so we can try and resolve problem from the latest backup folder. Cheers. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jotaele Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 g940 brocken ffb in BS Same problem here, cant fly the shark, the force feedback becomes erratic.I think this happened in the past.I hope they release soon a quick fix patch. Fly and let fly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CZ_BPK Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 (edited) Trim Same problem! G940 - A-10C Edited November 10, 2012 by CZ_BPK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrontoloIT Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 Same here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainbowed Posted November 10, 2012 Share Posted November 10, 2012 same problem with G940 =怒火雄鹰= LockBay http://www.lockbay.cn [sIGPIC]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic88944_7.gif[/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimebag Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 Same here. What I find interesting is when I use the key command inputs for trim, like r control + , for left trim, it still does it, almost like the key commands themselves are mapped wrong, but in the controls section they are set up the right way. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Find us at http://virtual-roulettes.forumotion.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dustoff74 Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 Same here. What I find interesting is when I use the key command inputs for trim, like r control + , for left trim, it still does it, almost like the key commands themselves are mapped wrong, but in the controls section they are set up the right way. Same here. I think, the trim axis are mixed up and for the G940 guys it´s just more obvious. Rock 'n' Roll! Henning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotorhead Posted November 11, 2012 Author Share Posted November 11, 2012 Same here. What I find interesting is when I use the key command inputs for trim, like r control + , for left trim, it still does it, almost like the key commands themselves are mapped wrong, but in the controls section they are set up the right way. Nope, nothing seems wrong with the key mapping. When I start an A-10 mission, and activate the control axes indicator (RCtrl+Enter), I can clearly see the trim diamond (the small one) moving exactly where i trim. I even tried to fly with FFB off, and the trim itself performed as it should - trim left and hold the stick centered -> your plane rolls to the left. It's the way the sim handles FFB trim what is broken, and it affects all modules. With all due respect to ED team, I don't get how this could get trough the testing process. It's already second time when DCS "update" effectively keeps me from flying it. First it was 1.2.0 update, that absolutely killed performance on my old system, and I was grounded until I got myself a new one. Now, 1.2.2 took my wigs away from me again. It's not funny anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sci2 Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 its happening with the KA-50 when turning on the trim wit the G940 the trim moves your stick fully to the left [sIGPIC]http://forums.eagle.ru/signaturepics/sigpic90574_1.gif[/sIGPIC] Australasian Gaming Community Specs: Intel Quad 2.4GHz -- Geforce GTX 560 Duo -- SSD HDD -- 8Gb Mem -- 23" led -- 17"touch -- Logitech G940 Flight System --JoyLocs-- TIR 5 -- Cougar MFD'S -- Helios - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suchacz Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 Mustang trimming with G940 trim wheels is messed up too. Per aspera ad astra! Crucial reading about DCS: Black Shark - Black Shark and Coaxial Rotor Aerodynamics, Black Shark and the Trimmer, Black Shark – Autopilot: Part 1, Black Shark – Autopilot: Part 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotorhead Posted November 11, 2012 Author Share Posted November 11, 2012 Mustang trimming with G940 trim wheels is messed up too. But trim wheels in cockpit work as intended, don't they? I mean, when you turn the trim wheel on you G940 for nose down, the virtual trim wheel in the cockpit goes nose down, too. It's only your stick what goes sideways instead of forward, right? If it's the case, and I believe it is, then it only proves my theory that there is bug in the commands that DCS sends towards joystick motors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suchacz Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 But trim wheels in cockpit work as intended, don't they? I mean, when you turn the trim wheel on you G940 for nose down, the virtual trim wheel in the cockpit goes nose down, too. It's only your stick what goes sideways instead of forward, right? If it's the case, and I believe it is, then it only proves my theory that there is bug in the commands that DCS sends towards joystick motors. Exactly :thumbup: Per aspera ad astra! Crucial reading about DCS: Black Shark - Black Shark and Coaxial Rotor Aerodynamics, Black Shark and the Trimmer, Black Shark – Autopilot: Part 1, Black Shark – Autopilot: Part 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovenmit Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 I can confirm this bug too on G940. Trimimg nose up or down moves the stick left and right. Also... turning on PAC rolls the plane left. Win 10pro x64 | i5 2500 | 16GB RAM | GTX1060 6GB | Logitech G940 | Tir5 + TC [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Mop- Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 i´ve got the mentioned problem as well with my g940 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Arrow Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 its happening with the KA-50 when turning on the trim wit the G940 the trim moves your stick fully to the left it is happening with Su-25A and Su-25T too - so it probably affects all craft in DCSW (G940 owner). FFB axis don't correspond to real trim axis, basically preventing to fly with FFB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotorhead Posted November 11, 2012 Author Share Posted November 11, 2012 it is happening with Su-25A and Su-25T too - so it probably affects all craft in DCSW (G940 owner). FFB axis don't correspond to real trim axis, basically preventing to fly with FFB. Spot on. This seems like general issue that affects everybody with FFB joystick (at least I haven't seen single person posting that their FFB works). I've said it before and I'll say it again: How can such a critical bug slip trough testing?! Maybe because all testers use TM Warthogs and nobody cares about FFB users? If so, it's not very good testing process, is it? Sorry, I don't mean to be rude, but I'm just sick of all those "updates". I'd better spend my time flying in DCS than ranting on this forum, but... :thumbdown: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sumerion Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 (edited) Yep I also confirm this bug.. I have the G940 Until fix.. I remapped my trim controls. In cockpit the trim hat on the stick (A-10) is moving wrong but my joystick is behaving correctly Edited November 11, 2012 by sumerion ASUS P7P55D - i5@3.8 - 8GB RAM - ATI6950 2GB - Logitech G940 - TIR 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P1KW Posted November 11, 2012 Share Posted November 11, 2012 Confirm, same problem with FFB in G940. Test, Ka-50. Greetings! "If adventure is dangerous, try the routine. It is deadly." Paulo Coelho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hacker558 Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 (edited) Same problem here with G940. This bug needs to be fixed as soon as possible. Lots of simmers are grounded. Need help ASAP from ED and DCS. ___________________________________ Edited November 13, 2012 by Hacker558 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joki Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Did the autoupdate today, didn't fix it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jotaele Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Yep, i was hoping it were solved, but no joy.And not even afficial response to this thread.Did someone opened a ticket? Fly and let fly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokin Hole Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 This is one I think they all know about. I doubt the ticket is necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojeaux Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 I hope I'm going to be proved wrong here, However; I'll wadger that the ED team will fail to address the problem pubicaly. It is a "Vendor thing!" now...good luck guys..I'm with the Wart Hog HOTAS. I had to switch from the X-52 Pro to the WH HOTAS do to issues that kept me from using the X-52 and the "Speed Keys" device after the 106 patch. The Dev team never could conferm or deny that the sun ever came up on this subject. Seriously I hope you'all have some resolve here, "Good Luck!" [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sobek Posted November 17, 2012 Share Posted November 17, 2012 (edited) This seems like general issue that affects everybody with FFB joystick (at least I haven't seen single person posting that their FFB works). The thing is, AFAIK it works correctly for the MS Sidewinder 2. The G940 has been dodgy in quite a few regards (i should know, i owned one myself until it died after 2 months of hardly using it). Sorry, I don't mean to be rude, but I'm just sick of all those "updates". I'd better spend my time flying in DCS than ranting on this forum, but... :thumbdown: By all means, stay on one version then, nobody is forcing you to update, no? Edited November 17, 2012 by sobek Good, fast, cheap. Choose any two. Come let's eat grandpa! Use punctuation, save lives! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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