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Toying with the idea of adding a physical spring to my G940. Has anyone tried this? I have to admit that as much as I like the look and feel of the stick I can't get over the center "slop" or the motors grinding in the corner areas of the stick. Everything about it just feels unnatural. The system over all is very nice, especially for the price, but I'm just not liking the stick all that much after using it for a little while. Can't get use to the motors acting as a spring instead of an actual one (also considering the fact that it works half-assed anyways).

 

In fact, I'd rather not use force feedback at all.

 

Looking at springs like this:

 

spring_zpsb4672961.jpg

 

Has anyone tried this before? Are there simply fixes for the slop and inaccurate movement in the corners?

 

Just a thought at this point but something I'm SERIOUSLY considering. If I could get rid of FFB all together and just have an old school style spring stick then the G940 would be PERFECT!

 

EDIT: Oh! Welcome me to the forums! :pilotfly:

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I have followed the system close since launch. No one ANYWHERE has ever went through adding a spring. We all just complain about it and nothing got done besides the new firmware1.42 that tightened it up alot.

 

http://forums.logitech.com/t5/PC-Gaming/G940-firmware-1-42-is-now-available/td-p/542496

 

There are adjustment in the the thing to help with the slop now and before the last firmware update.

 

TRY THIS

No more slop for me g940 hotas

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=55833&highlight=g940

 

G940 A guide

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=45695

 

 

The following was posted here before the Dec 2010 Firmware update

G940 firmware 1.42 is now available

Options 12-21-2010 04:04 PM

 

ok, 6 hours of experiments, the result:

 

a very strange looking setup, but working extremely well. check the ingame cockpit stick responding 1:1 to your input.

 

Logitech Profiler settings

 

Stick:

 

X and Y Axis Properties

Sensitivity 0%

Dead Zone 0%

Range 30% !!!

 

Specific Game Settings

Overall Effects Strength 100%

Spring Effects Strength 50%

Damper Effects Strength 50%

Centering Spring 0% unchecked

 

don't forget to unplug and replug the usb connection of the G940, to make shure the new settings are applied.

 

DCS Black Shark

 

Axis Tune Panel

Deadzone 0

Saturation y and X 100

Curvature -100 !!!

 

Force Feedback Tune Panel

Trimmer Force 100

Shake 0

 

before starting to fly, quickly unpause and pause the game, then move all inputs (throttle, pedals, stick) to the maximum and minimum to make shure BS gets the calibration of all the inputs.

Alec Delorean is offline Add to Alec Delorean's

 

Hey thats a really nice setting. I like that one even better. I had to turn down the overall effects strength to 75 because it was a little too stiff for me at 100 but every thing else is real nice. Good job on that find.

Rep up +1.

Edited by emenance

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Ehhh...thanks for the feedback, but I'm seriously wanting to just add a spring at this point. If I could get rid of the motors all together that would be perfect! :D

 

It's all good though...I'm definitely doing my own research over here...seems like my general idea is easily accomplished IF I could just find the right sized spring.

 

I've found a couple but they are either too long or the wire is too thick which would make the spring way too stiff.

 

Oh well, I'll get there eventually!

 

EDIT: Does anyone here know if the motors themselves can actually be removed? If I can find a proper spring I will use the system unpowered (as in no power cord) to keep the motors from interfering AT ALL and would like to reduce wear on the plastic gears and motors since I won't be using them. Looking at pics of the inside of the stick I can't see any potentiometers or anything...is the sticks position relayed through the motors? Potentiometers? Magnetic sensors?

Edited by AndroidVageta
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