AK rounds take out hydrolics?

[Daniel M]

I can attach a tacview file if anyone wants to see but was wondering:

 

I've been trying to work on my hms/close range game and got hit a few times by ak rounds. They ended up taking out my main and common hydro. Is this "realistic". I know we're "armored", and its "lightly armored". I thought it was the equivalent of like an IFV? Am I under the incorrect assumption that we are "impervious" to small arms fire?

 

BTW this was me the whole way back for 20km to the farp :joystick: , but I made it :D

[winz]

I know we're "armored", and its "lightly armored". I thought it was the equivalent of like an IFV?

Ka-50 weights around 8tons, BTR-80 14tons, tracked IFV 25+tons ;)

Afaik the only things protected in Ka-50 (and other helis) are pilot and gearbox.

Edited January 22, 2013 by winz

[Daniel M]

1.5km+ engagements it is!

 

Thanks

[Yurgon]

The Ka-50 surely is no flying tank (neither is the Apache or any other attack helicopter).

 

Unlike civilian choppers, it has a high survivability, meaning it's supposed to withstand a maximum amount of damage and still be operational. But with a bit of bad luck, a single bullet may be able to shoot it out of the sky.

 

Assault rifles are nowhere near as deadly as AAA, but you should really avoid them just as well. :)

[seikdel]

Ed Macy talks in his book Apache about how the AH-64 is designed to be shot. He says that armoring it to protect it from ground fire would make it too heavy to fly, so the redundant systems and the shielding of more critical systems with less critical ones make it so that it can get pretty dinged up and stay in the air.

 

Given the Ka-50's redundant systems, I assume the same principle is in effect.

[Yurgon]

Given the Ka-50's redundant systems, I assume the same principle is in effect.

 

That's right, and the Ka-50 has even got redundant rotor blades, that gives it a huge advantage over the Apache.

 

SCNR :megalol:

[maturin]

Except that the Apache has armor plates (any enthusiasts remember where?) that protect from 23mm AP.

[wess24m]

If I see tracers, I stop the attack (or anything I'm doing) and dive, turn tail, run. I've been flying the shark since the first week the beta came out, and as survivable as the KA may be, it's still like flying a house of glass.

[Shein]

I remember learning this the hard way...

Took on a group of soldiers with 5.56 rifles thinking I'd be a god among men, laughing as their puny small arms rounds bounce harmlessly off my mighty KA-50

 

30 seconds later I had one engine shut down, the other spooling down to 25%, and I just barely managed to crash land collapsing the gear...

...right in the middle of the guys I was shooting at. Talk about awkward...

 

Though as an aside, I do remember reading a LONG time ago, about how Kamov was bragging that you could shoot the KA-50 ANYWHERE with a 7.62 round and not harm it, long as it was at least 100 yards away.

Could be soviet propaganda, though

[seikdel]

Except that the Apache has armor plates (any enthusiasts remember where?) that protect from 23mm AP.

 

I don't recall the actual quote (loaned my copy to a friend), but the gist was "armored enough to completely protect it from ground fire". The point was, while there is some armor, it's also designed to absorb damage, at least in part by redundant systems.

[almonds]

golden bb

[Bushmanni]

During OIF there were several Apaches shot up so badly that they couldn't be repaired anymore (or it would have cost more than buying a new one) but they could still fly some ~20min trip back to base with the damage. Only armor Apache has is some composite armor around cockpit (inside the fuselage) to protect pilots and bulletproof windshield (the 2 lower sections). Ka-50 has bullet proof windows all around and titanium cockpit but no armor elsewhere.

[DieHard]

The Ka-50 surely is no flying tank (neither is the Apache or any other attack helicopter).

 

Unlike civilian choppers, it has a high survivability, meaning it's supposed to withstand a maximum amount of damage and still be operational. But with a bit of bad luck, a single bullet may be able to shoot it out of the sky.

 

Assault rifles are nowhere near as deadly as AAA, but you should really avoid them just as well. :)

 

A pilot in Viet Nam, flying low level, was hit by a flint lock type rifle ball from a local farmer type. Imagine getting hit by a .50 calibre or bigger ball. Man that guy must have been good at bird shooting.

[Suchacz]

Man that guy must have been good at bird shooting.

Maybe he was trained in playing "Moorhuhn" :lol:

[alphacharlieecho]

No, typically they do not come down with small arms fire. Impervious, NO. It can happen but these birds dominate. Large vehicle mounted weapons can and do penetrate when low flying in an IRL scenario.

[EagleEye]

That's right, and the Ka-50 has even got redundant rotor blades, that gives it a huge advantage over the Apache.

SCNR :megalol:

:lol::D

[Jona33]

Going by what Ed Macy says Small arms down 90% of military choppers. I guess that would include weapons like the Dshk but plenty will have been shot down or their pilots killed by a bunch of AK's.