emenance Posted March 29, 2013 Share Posted March 29, 2013 I voted No because Vietnam would be too one sided and unbelievable. The World War 2 era would be more fun and richer experience. Other than that Id say stick to modern jets. Asus P8Z68-V GEN3/ 2500k 4.4ghz / Corsair 64gb SSD Cache / Corsair 8g 1600 ddr3 / 2 x 320gb RE3 Raid 0 /Corsair 950w/ Zotac 560TI AMP 1gb / Zalman GS1200 case /G940/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Pharoah Posted March 31, 2013 Author Share Posted March 31, 2013 how would it be one-sided? don't you think the Mig 19s and 21s were up to dogfighting the F4s? Yeah I missed a bit in my original post because I'm trying to keep it real. Theoretically knowing the amount of work that goes into developing a jet in DCS, I wouldn't expect more than a handful of a/c (similar to say FC3) to start it off. Sure I know its too far into the future, however my point is...they've recognised it and decided to build it including Korea. Its different if they decided to just keep to the modern era. AMD AM4 Ryzen7 3700X 3.6ghz/MSI AM4 ATX MAG X570 Tomahawk DDR4/32GB DDR4 G.Skill 3600mhz/1TB 970 Evo SSD/ASUS RTX2070 8gb Super Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cake Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 DCS: Operation Crimp - the first attempt to combine strategic bombing with a Doom like first person shooter in the tunnels under Vietnam. Seriously though, I think there is some great potential here. It's going to be really tough if my F4 doesn't have a cannon and ROE demand visual confirmation before engagement. 6700K@4.6 48Gb - 1080Ti Hybrid - Warthog - RIFT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PLAAF Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Need MiG-23 to counter the F-4. If they model MiG-23, that would be intereting My Adorable Communist Errand Girls Led by me, the Communist Errand Panda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cake Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Need MiG-23 to counter the F-4. If they model MiG-23, that would be intereting We're MiG23s involved in Vietnam? I thought it was mainly 17/19/21??? 6700K@4.6 48Gb - 1080Ti Hybrid - Warthog - RIFT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PLAAF Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 We're MiG23s involved in Vietnam? I thought it was mainly 17/19/21??? I would say mainly 19/21. But you are right, MiG-23 isn't involved. Still, it would be really fun to have. My Adorable Communist Errand Girls Led by me, the Communist Errand Panda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cake Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 I would say mainly 19/21. But you are right, MiG-23 isn't involved. Still, it would be really fun to have. No doubt about that. I think the F4s were pretty challenged, not really the right tool for the job. It'll be tough making them work well against the MiGs. 6700K@4.6 48Gb - 1080Ti Hybrid - Warthog - RIFT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nealius Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Good idea, except Wild Weaseling in Vietnam was playing Russian Roulette. The RWR and anti-radiation missile were very primitive and unreliable back then, unless I have misinformation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Rider Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 how would it be one-sided? don't you think the Mig 19s and 21s were up to dogfighting the F4s? It was, apparently, a one-sided affair... US pretty much had air superiority in hand. Vietnam was a guerrilla war. The air component was mainly US bombing, napalm, defoliant runs, with lots and lots of helicopters flitting about. City Hall is easier to fight, than a boys' club - an observation :P "Resort is had to ridicule only when reason is against us." - Jefferson "Give a group of potheads a bunch of weed and nothing to smoke out of, and they'll quickly turn into engineers... its simply amazing." EVGA X99 FTW, EVGA GTX980Ti FTW, i7 5930K, 16Gb Corsair Dominator 2666Hz, Windows 7 Ultimate 64Bit, Intel 520 SSD x 2, Samsung PX2370 monitor and all the other toys - "I am a leaf on the wind, watch how I soar" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Pharoah Posted April 1, 2013 Author Share Posted April 1, 2013 It was, apparently, a one-sided affair... US pretty much had air superiority in hand. Vietnam was a guerrilla war. The air component was mainly US bombing, napalm, defoliant runs, with lots and lots of helicopters flitting about. Not exactly...the US didn't have it all their own way - there were russian pilots flying the '21s plus the NVAF actually had aces as well. Either way, that was real life..I'm talking about DCS Vietnam...the game or game mode. Just the ability for us players to create our own missions. AMD AM4 Ryzen7 3700X 3.6ghz/MSI AM4 ATX MAG X570 Tomahawk DDR4/32GB DDR4 G.Skill 3600mhz/1TB 970 Evo SSD/ASUS RTX2070 8gb Super Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trietnguyen Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 The battle of the sky happens in the sky of the north Viet Nam (USAF vs VPAF) In South Vietnam only ground attack with B-52,AC-130.. (USAF),F-1O5, A-1,A-37(VAF).Huey(USAF+VAF),AH-1(USAF).etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaanalma Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Here is a list of all aircraft of Vietnam War http://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/vietnam-war-aircraft.asp [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] www.36stormovirtuale.net Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazz_44 Posted April 1, 2013 Share Posted April 1, 2013 Main challenge in the early years of the conflict for the USAF and Navy F4's was the lack of a gun. The Sparrow (AIM-7) was almost useless because of strict ROE not to fire on unidentified targets. The Sidewinder (AIM-9) was preferring the heat of the sun instead of the Mig's tailpipe.. Same challenges could be recreated in DCS world.The current FC3 missile behavior is almost the same as the A-A missiles of Vietnam, about 30% hit probability on non-maneuvering targets ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Rider Posted April 2, 2013 Share Posted April 2, 2013 Yes, the lack of cannon plus the RoE of identify target before firing, which meant no BVR engagement. Operation Bolo sorted out the NVAF, which then made SAMs and rocket launchers, which were supplied (donated to the cause) in abundance, the greater threat. City Hall is easier to fight, than a boys' club - an observation :P "Resort is had to ridicule only when reason is against us." - Jefferson "Give a group of potheads a bunch of weed and nothing to smoke out of, and they'll quickly turn into engineers... its simply amazing." EVGA X99 FTW, EVGA GTX980Ti FTW, i7 5930K, 16Gb Corsair Dominator 2666Hz, Windows 7 Ultimate 64Bit, Intel 520 SSD x 2, Samsung PX2370 monitor and all the other toys - "I am a leaf on the wind, watch how I soar" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfrank14 Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 (edited) It was, apparently, a one-sided affair... US pretty much had air superiority in hand. Vietnam was a guerrilla war. The air component was mainly US bombing, napalm, defoliant runs, with lots and lots of helicopters flitting about. Before Top Gun, the US had a kill ratio of 2 to 1 in the early years of Vietnam. I would love to see DCS: Vietnam. And I'd love to see a DCS level A-6. And an A-4, and an F-4, and the A-1. :) While I'm dreaming, might as well add that it would be really cool to start a campaign pre-Top Gun, and as the years roll on, send the pilot to Top Gun for training before going back in theater. At this point, the AI would be upgraded to bring the AI kill ratio up to 12 to 1. Edited April 5, 2013 by mfrank14 Clearifying kill ratio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkateZilla Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 They were way better than 2-1 before Vietnam. Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkateZilla Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 I posted this in the wishlist but wanted to know others feedback. Basically we have the following in development: - F100 (I think) https://www.facebook.com/VRCF100 Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arteedecco Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 North American RA-5C Vigilante Great read here I've always been in love with this unique plane. You could do the various iterations of it, not just Recce. Has that weird bomb bay out the talicone of the plane. "The Cadillac of carrier airplanes" Same engines as F-4, but clean, no externals, lots of gas.... zoom! The trick would be in simulating / modeling the RAN position (backseater). Also... those GE J-79-lOs would need to properly put out a nice long plume of soot when not in A/B to be realistic. Don't even see that w/ the Russian fighters in DCS World / FC... which we probably should. Anyhow... love the idea! "Snipe" -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- OS => Win7 64-bit Ultimate | MOBO => ASUS M2N-SLI Deluxe | RAM => 8GB | VIDEO CARD => XFX ATI 4850 | CONTROLLER => Saitek X52 | DISPLAY => ASUS 25.5" 1600x1280 | HDD => 150GB WD Raptor (10K RPM) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfrank14 Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 They were way better than 2-1 before Vietnam. Yes, but not during the first part of Vietnam. I edited my previous post to be more clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Pharoah Posted April 6, 2013 Author Share Posted April 6, 2013 https://www.facebook.com/VRCF100 Now THATS what I'm talking about! :) AMD AM4 Ryzen7 3700X 3.6ghz/MSI AM4 ATX MAG X570 Tomahawk DDR4/32GB DDR4 G.Skill 3600mhz/1TB 970 Evo SSD/ASUS RTX2070 8gb Super Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upyr1 Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Vietnam era As I don't know when ED will have the time to start on the Vietnam era I would like to know what would it take to get my hands on the DCS software development kit and to get started on the Add ons and if any one would care to join me on this project? :pilotfly: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKenny04 Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 Sorry to resurrect a dead thread, but I noticed all the Vietnam-era aircraft in development, and got REALLY excited. Figured I'd list them here and get a discussion going on future aircraft. F-100D Thud http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=109596 UH-1H Huey http://forums.eagle.ru/forumdisplay.php?f=263 F-104G Starfighter http://forums.eagle.ru/forumdisplay.php?f=254 A-7 Corsair II http://forums.eagle.ru/forumdisplay.php?f=252 MiG-21bis http://forums.eagle.ru/forumdisplay.php?f=201 Mi-8 Hip http://forums.eagle.ru/forumdisplay.php?f=279 I also vaguely recall some folks working on an A-4 Skyhawk and an F-4 Phantom. Any rumors? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin_Hood Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 (edited) F-100D Thud http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=109596 You mean "Super sabre", or "Hun". The "Thud" is the F-105 Thunderchief ;) F-104G Starfighter http://forums.eagle.ru/forumdisplay.php?f=254 Unfortunately, I heard the project is dead at the moment. Edited November 21, 2013 by Robin_Hood 2nd French Fighter Squadron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theGozr Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 DCS Vietnam DCS Korea DCS Middle East MiGs and Mirage III's That would be something.. :) Fly it like you stole it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blech Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 MiG-21bis http://forums.eagle.ru/forumdisplay.php?f=201 Hi, The MIG-21bis was delivered to Vietnam from 1979 on. http://www.mig-21.de/english/inservice.htm#vietnam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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