TH Warthog Addional Controls?

[IJammer]

Hi

As a DCS/A-10C newbie and using a recently acquired TH Warthog HOTAS (what a beast :joystick:); I was quite impressed with the fact that the A-10C recognises the TH Warthog straight off with regard to controller settings.

 

I have set the throttle (unused/mapped as default) friction slider (to the right of the throttle bars) as a cockpit view zoom... although that does make the viewed display 'wobble' when set between either end of zoom and middle setting. Middle and end settings are stable. Anyone else suffering from this 'wobbling' zoom affect on the throttle zoom? The zoom on the KP (\,*) is stable what ever setting. Maybe I should disable the KP settings if I am using the throttle slider zoom? Just thought of that one...:idea:

 

The other point that help would be appreciated on is what would be a useful mapping for the j/stick unused 'button/bar' situated at the lower/front of the joystick? As far as I am aware this button lever is not actually implemented in a real A-10C... however, it seems like a useful addition. I have it set as a 'snap-shot' pic taker at the moment, but I have no doubt that you long term TH Warthog users will have set it to something more useful, any ideas? Nothing rude please... :)

 

One more newbie question... where can I find more time? This flight sim is taking over my life!:helpsmilie:

 

TIA for any help here...

 

IJammer

Edited February 22, 2013 by IJammer

[snafup]

Hi,

I"ve got mine set as center track ir. I'm using the extra one in my radio selector switch as gear up and down, and the extra one on the slew control as pause track ir.

[davedontmind]

I use the paddle on the joystick as a modifier (a shift-key, if you like), which allows me to map more functions to the available buttons, e.g. I can put pause on a shifted button (paddle + left throttle button). I also use the slew-click button on the throttle as a second modifier, usually for modifying buttons on the stick (I find it's easier if the modifier and button being modified are on different hands).

 

As for the jitter on the friction slider, the best solution I found was to put zoom on slider+modifier, which means holding down an additional button when using the slider to zoom, but at least the game then doesn't see the jitter unless the modifier is down.

Edited February 22, 2013 by davedontmind

[dburne]

The " wobbleness" of the throttle slider when set to zoom, is a bug in the firmware of the Warthog, that shows itself when having the LED's set to on.

 

I have disabled the LED's in Target, so they remain off - and do not get this issue, zoom on that slider works smoothly.

 

While I have not tried it personally, I have read that you can have the LED's on as long as they are set to max brightness, anything other than max brightness or off, and the erratic behaviour happens. Again, I have only read that and have not tried it personally. I am ok with leaving mine off.

 

Lastly, while I myself am not using it yet, I do have that paddle on the stick assigned as a modifier, should I desire to use it as such in the future - I am still going through the learning stages of this sim.

[Dachs]

You should take a look at this thread http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=87543&highlight=ahk+center+trackir

I don't know if you got a Trackir, but there's some good idea's in there regardless.

[Konrad Friedrich]

I've mapped the pinky lever on the stick to the wheel brakes.

Nice for taxiing.

Yep - zoom wobbles a little bit when the throttle LED'S are dimmed.

When they are either on or off it stops wobbling.

[MaceUK]

I get the wobble but I rarely zoom in so doesn't bother me and I use the paddle to recentre TIR.

[mr_mojo97]

Paddle is my Trackir pause, I also use the push button CMS for Trackir centre seen as it's never used. Problem is with Trackir it recognises the throttle and joystick as one item for some bizarre reason. So button 4 on the joystick will also operate button 4 on the throtlle etc. So radio thumbie (up or in - both unused in sim) on the throttle will also operate the paddle or pinkie on the joystick which gets annoying. Never had the wobbles though with my camera zoom (zoom slider as you) so I assume my lights are on full, although some have blown anyways

[snafup]

Hi,

Just set up the center and pause for track ir. So i have a free button for something else.Mojo isn't cms push button for electronic cms on or off?

[Vlerkies]

Zoom - Map the pinkie paddle switch on the joystick as a modifier in controls, then assign it and the hat up and down for zoom, works way better than the slider imho.

[IJammer]

Ok... thanks guy's, most helpful ideas. I don't have ITracker yet, something on the 'todo' list, but that paddle sounds like it could be useful there. Also the modifier... yup, never thought of that and must admit I have not delved that deep into the DCS controller settings yet; still getting to grips with the defaults. I like the idea of the paddle controlling the wheel brakes at the moment... as a couple of times I have shot off the black stuff while fumbling for the 'W' key! I have yet to organise some rudder peddles... so still using 'z' & 'x' for nosewheel/rudder steerage.

 

Ok, on the jitter/wobble with the throttle slider control... aghhh, its associated with the LED strip eh! Well, I never installed Target. Someone advised it was not required if only using the A-10C (at the moment). My LED's do not light up... as I understand it then, its the Target software that controls the LED's. Do they have any function apart from a pretty display?

 

Perhaps I should install the Target stuff then... unless there is a down side to that?

 

Again, thanks for all the help guy's; a great community on here and I shall look forward to knocking some of you out of the sky LOL

 

IJammer

[dburne]

No real downside to installing Target, and it will give you the flexiblity to control your LED's. Just because it is installed doesn't mean you have to have a profile running.

[shagrat]

I would advise to use the paddle switch as a modifier as advised. Much more flexibility there.

e.g. paddle+Horn button on the throttle - wheels up /down

or paddle +CMS up NVG on /off, paddle+CMS right /left NVG gain

paddle+coolie hat on the stick to pan the view when using F2 or F6 views (unmodified should be trim)

paddle+radio hat fore /aft to increase /decrease VHF am radio volume (AI chatter sometimes is too loud)

paddle+DMS left /right set to UFC Select up down (quickly switch through weapons profiles without changing SOI to HUD!) ...though I no longer need it since I build my UFC:D

[Sarge55]

+1 for "Paddle as a modifier".

 

I have mine set up for a number of things but for zooming in and out I use the paddle + Mic fwd to zoom in and Paddle + Mic Aft to zoom out. Paddle + Mic dwn sets to default.

[Konrad Friedrich]

Do they have any function apart from a pretty display?

IJammer

 

No - just eye candy ;)

[shagrat]

No - just eye candy ;)

 

no - you can program these with TARGET script ... :smartass:

Edited February 22, 2013 by shagrat

[dburne]

Hey shagrat,

Are you using the paddle as modifier combined with the coolie hat to pan your view in exterior view?

 

I tried that, but it would not work for me - it would pan the view, however it also still operated as trim at the same time. Maybe I did something wrong and could give it another try... but when I did set it that way, it would always still trim the aircraft as well.

[shagrat]

yes, exactly. Paddle button plus trim hat up is view down etc.

you need to check that the trim function uses only four directions, view should contain all eight.

also check if anything is configured only once. you need to assign every single direction with modifier and button press=paddle+trimhat up for "view down slow". paddle+trimhat down for "view up slow" and so on... :joystick:

[FreeFall]

The " wobbleness" of the throttle slider when set to zoom, is a bug in the firmware of the Warthog, that shows itself when having the LED's set to on

 

I think that there is no "wobbleness" if the LED brightness is set to max. And if Target software is not installed, max. is the default? Am I correct?

 

+1 for "Paddle as a modifier".

 

I have mine set up for a number of things but for zooming in and out I use the paddle + Mic fwd to zoom in and Paddle + Mic Aft to zoom out. Paddle + Mic dwn sets to default.

 

+1 for Paddle as a modifier as well. You are not very clever imho if you don't use it as a modifier because it's kinda waste of capabilities :).

 

I have named my pinkie modifier as "Pinky (Paddle)" in the options. Like Sarge55, I also Zoom with Mic button. My settings are:

 

Zoom in slow: Pinky (Paddle) + JOY_BTN4

Zoom normal: Pinky (Paddle) + JOY_BTN2

Zoom out slow: Pinky (Paddle) + JOY_BTN6

 

Those "JOY_-buttons" of course mean throttle mic hat actions.

[dburne]

Ok thanks shagrat, I will give it another go and see if I can get it to work properly this time. Thanks for the info.

[FreeFall]

you need to check that the trim function uses only four directions, view should contain all eight.

 

That's very true. If you have TrackIR and use trim hat as a trimmer, you should disable "middle positions" like View Up Left slow (JOY_BTN_POV1_UL), View Down Right slow etc. etc. from A-10C Sim View Controls.

[dburne]

That's very true. If you have TrackIR and use trim hat as a trimmer, you should disable "middle positions" like View Up Left slow (JOY_BTN_POV1_UL), View Down Right slow etc. etc. from A-10C Sim View Controls.

 

Ah, I do have Track IR and did not realize that- thanks.

[Harzach]

The " wobbleness" of the throttle slider when set to zoom, is a bug in the firmware of the Warthog, that shows itself when having the LED's set to on.

 

I have disabled the LED's in Target, so they remain off - and do not get this issue, zoom on that slider works smoothly.

 

WHOA. First I've read of this. Can't wait to get my bricked throttle back!

[Milli]

When people talk of disabling the LED's in TARGET, do they mean disabling just LED's 1 to 5? Is it ok to keep the Backlight LED on?

 

Regards,

Milli

[dburne]

it is my understanding it is the backlight LED's. At least in my case, it is.