RodrigoMF_BR Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 The best drug dealer terminator from all world, very soon will be a greater taliban terminator too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elchacal Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 Great!! :thumbup: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EtherealN Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 Bah. ...is clearly superior. :) 1 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Daniel "EtherealN" Agorander | Даниэль "эфирныйн" Агорандер Intel i7 2600K @ 4.4GHz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600MHz, ASUS GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1GB, Samsung 830series 512GB SSD, Corsair AX850w, two BENQ screens and TM HOTAS Warthog DCS: A-10C Warthog FAQ | DCS: P-51D FAQ | Remember to read the Forum Rules | | | Life of a Game Tester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leafer Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 First pic, which air force is going to use them against the talibans? I'm really curious why anyone will use that thing in a war. ED have been taking my money since 1995. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
71st_Mastiff Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 nice photo shop " any failure you meet, is never a defeat; merely a set up for a greater come back, " W Forbes "Success is not final, failure is not fatal, it is the courage to continue that counts," Winston Churchill " He who never changes his mind, never changes anything," MSI z690 MPG DDR4 || i9-14900k|| ddr4-64gb PC3200 || MSI RTX 4080S|Game1300w|Win11| |turtle beach elite pro 5.1|| ViRpiL,T50cm2||MFG Crosswinds|| VT50CM-plus rotor Throttle || G10 RGB EVGA Keyboard/MouseLogitech || PiMax Crystal VR || 32 Asus|| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Speed Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 (edited) First pic, which air force is going to use them against the talibans? I'm really curious why anyone will use that thing in a war. 1) USAF 2) a) It's cheap b) Taliban still can't shoot it down c) A 500 lb bomb dropped from this will still be just as effective at converting Taliban to Talibits, but it will cost just a fraction of the price to deliver than with a jet fighter. d) Moves slowly so it's easy to support ground forces e) All the other reasons I missed Edited February 28, 2013 by Speed Intelligent discourse can only begin with the honest admission of your own fallibility. Member of the Virtual Tactical Air Group: http://vtacticalairgroup.com/ Lua scripts and mods: MIssion Scripting Tools (Mist): http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=98616 Slmod version 7.0 for DCS: World: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=80979 Now includes remote server administration tools for kicking, banning, loading missions, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodrigoMF_BR Posted February 28, 2013 Author Share Posted February 28, 2013 First pic, which air force is going to use them against the talibans? I'm really curious why anyone will use that thing in a war. I´m not sure if will be USAF or AAF... The reasons, to use this type of aircraft into a modern war are very simple. The Super Tucano are a joint development of EMBRAER and Brazilian Air Force to a light, cheap, simple and easy to maintain but still using advanced avionics and weapons. To use in assimetryc conflicts like the Afhegan, Lybia, Mali, Iraq, Iemen, South America and anothers with low intensity and low technology enemy they are equally effective than a F16 or Rafale, by a fraction of cost. I had seen pictures of Mirages F1 at Mali conflict with two Mk82.. The Super Tucano can fly the same mission expeding much less money. Some questions.. That Super Tucano leased to Blackwater stills in US ? The Imminet Fury program has died ? Super Tucano don´t have classified avionics or specs.. Will be a greate DCS product! :megalol::megalol::megalol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandrake5 Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 Is that an armoured cockpit? I guess it needs to be! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxElite Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 this thing can carry guided bombs so ...why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcos Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 Pah! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[FD]Ripper Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 (edited) Beechcraft's AT-6 Texan II vs Embraer's Super Tucano A-29 The AT-6 has an integrated surveillance/attack mission system derived from the avionics package in the upgraded A-10C Thunderbolt II attack aircraft. The aircraft has flexible, reconfigurable hard points with seven external store stations. It can carry a wide variety of sensors and ordnance and several types of pod-mounted guns. The AT-6 is also outfitted with the CMC Esterline digital Cockpit 4000 avionics and controls suite and L-3 WESCAM’s MX-15Di electro-optical infrared (EO/IR) sensor pod. The aircraft is also equipped with an ALQ-213 EW Management System, ARC-210 radios with secure voice/data and SATCOM (satellite communications). According to former Rep. Todd Tiahart (R-Kan) “the aircraft nearly every U.S. pilot is trained on” is “ideally suited” for light combat operations while retaining about 85 percent commonality in parts and supplies with the ubiquitous trainer version. The Super Tucano carries two .50-caliber machine guns in the wing with a rate of fire of 1,100 rounds per minute, has five hardpoints under the wing and one under the fuselage. The Brazilian military version has features that can be provided with an LAS variant, including a full glass cockpit with twin LCD (liquid crystal display) multifunction displays (MFDs). The Super Tucano is the longer, larger and heavier of the two aircraft. According to Rep. Allen B. West (R-Fla), the Super Tucano “has logged over 100,000 flight hours, 16,000 of which have been in combat without a loss.” Seven countries are using 173 Super Tucanos around the world today. Edited February 28, 2013 by =AN=Ripper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leafer Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 Yeah I knew it'd be cheaper to operate, but will the Super Tacanoes instill the kind of fear a Warthog could. I'm thinking if I were a taliban I'd be more afraid of its gun than the bombs and rockets. ED have been taking my money since 1995. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyroflash Posted February 28, 2013 Share Posted February 28, 2013 That Super Tucano leased to Blackwater stills in US ? Yes, there is one Super Tucano owned by Tac Air of Sierra Nevada Corp. It is currently used to support special forces in CAS training operations. If you aim for the sky, you will never hit the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodrigoMF_BR Posted March 1, 2013 Author Share Posted March 1, 2013 Yeah I knew it'd be cheaper to operate, but will the Super Tacanoes instill the kind of fear a Warthog could. I'm thinking if I were a taliban I'd be more afraid of its gun than the bombs and rockets. A A10, always delivery more fear and ammo at the foe positions.. But a much more expensive price.. With Super Tucano using guided weapons the enemy will be killed without ear the sound of aircraft... This is scary enough for anyone.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EtherealN Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 e) All the other reasons I missed Ties into both economy and mission availability: turboprop drinks a lot less fuel than jets, giving both longer loiter times (meaning you can keep planes "on-station" more easily rather than scrambling planes from bases when troops require support), but also greatly reducing stress on supply lines since less fuel needs to be transported - and such transports are either extremely expensive if done by air, or obvious targets for IED and ambush if done overland. (The latter thread being easiest to defeat through using longer-range jets and aerial refueling, but then your response times suffer and you have the additional stress on the system through needing those tanker flights.) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Daniel "EtherealN" Agorander | Даниэль "эфирныйн" Агорандер Intel i7 2600K @ 4.4GHz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600MHz, ASUS GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1GB, Samsung 830series 512GB SSD, Corsair AX850w, two BENQ screens and TM HOTAS Warthog DCS: A-10C Warthog FAQ | DCS: P-51D FAQ | Remember to read the Forum Rules | | | Life of a Game Tester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcos Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 It wouldn't surprise me if the drug barons had a few L-39s though, or MANPADS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maturin Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Yeah I knew it'd be cheaper to operate, but will the Super Tacanoes instill the kind of fear a Warthog could. I'm thinking if I were a taliban I'd be more afraid of its gun than the bombs and rockets. The Taliban use guerilla tactics, so maximum fear isn't necessarily a good thing. Don't they tend to vanish or reposition themselves once they get the feeling that CAS is on its way? Let a quiet little bird slip up and drop something on them instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jona33 Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 The Taliban use guerilla tactics, so maximum fear isn't necessarily a good thing. Don't they tend to vanish or reposition themselves once they get the feeling that CAS is on its way? Let a quiet little bird slip up and drop something on them instead. Depends on the Taliban and how well hidden they are. Some will drop the weapons at the sound of anything but others will be shooting until they are physically killed. Always remember. I don't have a clue what I'm doing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RodrigoMF_BR Posted March 2, 2013 Author Share Posted March 2, 2013 It wouldn't surprise me if the drug barons had a few L-39s though, or MANPADS. The FARC already uses MANPADS. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBnlqFU-aqU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildBillKelsoe Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 I'll take air tractor over embraer. AWAITING ED NEW DAMAGE MODEL IMPLEMENTATION FOR WW2 BIRDS Fat T is above, thin T is below. Long T is faster, Short T is slower. Open triangle is AWACS, closed triangle is your own sensors. Double dash is friendly, Single dash is enemy. Circle is friendly. Strobe is jammer. Strobe to dash is under 35 km. HDD is 7 times range key. Radar to 160 km, IRST to 10 km. Stay low, but never slow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xilol Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 I'll take air tractor over embraer. The tucano is a combat proven aircraft. I believe that is more than enough for embraer to win the LAS. The Beechcraft as a LAS aircraft it is still a project. "IN ALTIS VIS ET VIRTUS" [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodrigoMF_BR Posted March 8, 2013 Author Share Posted March 8, 2013 The Beechecraft will try blowup LAS again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topol-m Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Just when you think you're in 21st century and it's the jets era, with ramjets starting to make their way, with hypersonic speed tests... and the image of all that is destroyed by a crop duster... [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maior Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Only this crop duster is an astonishing machine. It's all a matter of cost. For most jobs such as counter insurgency, drug war or even, war against a small nation, this plane is perfect. An A-10 costs $3,000 per flight hour, an F-16 costs $7,000, an F/A-18 Shornet $18,000 and a F-15E. $44,000! A super Tucano costs $1,000 per flight hour. How can you match that? and if you have air superiority, there's no increased risk of it being shot down. It lowers the cost of operations considerably. And the bloody plane is just soooo good... And smart too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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