Research: Which OS do you run?

[Tango]

Which OS do you run DCS on?

 

Please select the OLDEST, e.g. if you run it on both Windows 7 and Windows Vista, please select VISTA.

Edited March 27, 2013 by Tango

[Tango]

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Best regards,

Tango.

[DxZ]

IMHO:

I saw both your threads and found out that you are kind of misleading people. Also, if your whole product is based on 32bit well sir blame bad planning, not ED. if you are Still on Planning phase and need that info, THEN I understand.

 

I'm sorry if a lot of people are being a bit rude (including me) but I gather that we cant seem to understand why you ask those questions nor the WAY that you do.

Hell I still have MSDOS running on a freaking old PC, and a still working COMMODORE 64 (pun intended).

I know what you are asking and really I don't like the idea of ED not throwing you, a developer for their thing, a bone. And in all case, trust them, if they are making that move... somethings behind it.

 

@topic, the way I can help you is:

 

-Check the trend indicated at VALVEs own hardware survey, there is a lot of information there and the most important I think is the 64 bit and OS trend, since there's a lot of non gaming pcs on it and wouldnt give you any clue with all those intel based gpus.

 

- Know your market, Welcome to ED and the simulator world. Not everyone here has the best pc nor the best or latest OS, and yet everyone has fairly good PC that is the minimum required to play this. It's been a while since 64 became the norm for all us simmers since we all know, think or believe that 64 will help improve performance and give us some of our precious FPS.

 

Bottom line: The few that are still holding on the waiting wagon, will make the jump once they are needed to do so. sooner or later, There is no argue in that. I know because I'm one of those that bought a whole new PC to be able to play this.

[Tango]

I saw both your threads and found out that you are kind of misleading people. Also, if your whole product is based on 32bit well sir blame bad planning, not ED. if you are Still on Planning phase and need that info, THEN I understand.

I'll ask again... what is with peoples obsession that I am somehow defending/justifying 32-bit OS?

 

Would you be so kind as to tell me where I ever posted it was 32-bit only?

 

From your comments quoted above I can only surmise that you have ZERO knowledge of both programming and modern compilers.

 

To build 32 and 64 bit libraries is as simple as a compiler option change. Done.

 

As to why I'm asking? I have the option of supporting old OS and older techniques at the expense of newer functions, or I can drop support for older OS up to and including Windows Vista.

 

Please see page 5 of the other poll I started for a more detsiled explanation of SDKs and the choice I have.

 

In the end, my/our decision as 3rd parties affects you, the end user and customer of those products.

 

If you want me/us to make it so you have to get Windows 8 to run our products then we can do that. From the way I keep being challenged about why I'm asking, you make me wonder if you'd be happy with that decision? It's fine by me - only one OS to worry about, not hmmm 8 or even 10 if we supported right back to 32-bit XP.

 

- Know your market, Welcome to ED and the simulator world. Not everyone here has the best pc nor the best or latest OS, and yet everyone has fairly good PC that is the minimum required to play this. It's been a while since 64 became the norm for all us simmers since we all know, think or believe that 64 will help improve performance and give us some of our precious FPS.

I actually know this market fairly well already - I'm an avid flight simmer myself and have just about ever sim going except for XPlane and some of the earlier sims from the mid-90s backwards.

 

As you stated yourself Not everyone here has the best pc nor the best or latest OS so you won't mind if I find out how many that is? One of the Mods here has in his signature many links aimed directly at helping people run DCS on 32-bit OS. It must be a frequently enough asked question for him to do that. There is another guy looking for data on people running 32-bit OS so he can help them run it. Again, the 32-bit demand must be sufficient for him to spend his time doing that.

 

Yes... I think I know my market fairly well actually.

 

Still, it doesn't hurt to ask. It's the animosity towards the questions I've asked that is perplexing me.

 

Thank you for your suggestion of looking at Steam hardware stats - I had forgotten about that (see - asking questions does help - you don't always get answers you were looking for ;) ). Thanks for that. :)

 

Best regards,

Tango.

Edited March 28, 2013 by Tango

[SkateZilla]

where's my 3.11 option?

[cichlidfan]

 

If you want me/us to make it so you have to get Windows 8 to run our products then we can do that.

 

I say go for it. ;)

[NineLine]

I say go for it. ;)

 

I've been looking for an excuse as well :)

[Tango]

where's my 3.11 option?

I'll build one specially for you - how's that? :P Convincing ED to do the same will be a bit harder... :D

 

Best regards,

Tango.

Edited March 28, 2013 by Tango

[KLR Rico]

As to why I'm asking? I have the option of supporting old OS and older techniques at the expense of newer functions, or I can drop support for older OS up to and including Windows Vista.

 

 

Since 95% of users are on W7+, I hope the choice is clear! :music_whistling:

[Tango]

Do the math on your 5%. Let's take DCS A-10 as an example.

 

Retail at $39.99. Let's say we have 1,000 customers. 1,000 x $39.99 = $39,990.

 

5% of that is 50. 50 x $39.99 = $1,999.50.

 

You would prefer to lose $1,999.50?

 

If we have 10,000 customers, that loss just became $19,995.00.

 

100,000 customers...... Yikes. $199,950 lost in potential sales.

 

That has to be balanced against how many people are actually going to be using it on 32-bit OS. It incurs time building 32-bit libraries and installers, we have more operating systems to support as a result, so that has to be factored into whether potential sales justify the added time. Oh - and it needs testing too, to ensure that it works as expected on the different platform.

 

Best regards,

Tango.

Edited March 28, 2013 by Tango

[SkateZilla]

or MS gains in Windows Sales :)

[KLR Rico]

I see you're not supporting android. There goes 500 million possible sales...

 

Anyways, backwards compatibility is nice and all, but should 95% of the people miss out on the best experience possible because grandpa can't play on his commodore?

 

If you need to poke some people to crawl out from the 32-bit XP rock, so be it.

 

Just my $0.02, good luck with the market survey in any case. :)