F-18 grip, WARTHOG compatible

[Shadow_1stVFW]

But I think his future customers can express their opinions without using words like trolling and scam, don't you?

 

Oh, absolutely. I generally try and keep my post substantive. (Haha, though sometimes people seem to be asking for sarcasm, but that's niether here nor there).

 

But, especially in this thread, constructive criticism is necessary. That's why I suggested Hegykc send in something for a third party review. I think it'll give everyone a little of what they are looking for. He gets feedback on his design and construction, everyone else gets a closer look at it. They can drool over it, dream about it, or make suggestions. I don't know. Respect is key in a forum. Too often I think people confuse respect with affirmative feedback. That's just me.

 

I don't not like hegykc or what he's doing, I just disagree with some things. And when and if I can make a logical point or counter point, I try too.

 

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[RAZBAM_ELMO]

I think more than anything we want to SEE the products. I mean we SAW completed panels for the b17 and p51......but we haven't SEEN anything as far as a physical object for the head tracker or a do ready for testing CDU. I think once hegy actually shows pictures and video of working products in a TESTING STAGE the mood and atmosphere will change drastically. But for now most are upset because of the continued "delays" and pretty pictures. Frankly I'm in that group though I give my full support to hegy and his company.......

 

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[Farlander]

I have absolutely nothing against an opinion, free speech. But there is a time and a place. If you had a set deal with some guy about a product and money was exchanged and nothing came. That is a real problem, but to be complaining on some sim enthusiast who is working towards selling sim equipment and who is still just working on it and hasn't made any real promises or taken money is in my opinion, a bit too much.

 

You decide to hold off your purchase of something else by this project, ok. that's your choice. he does not have any responsibility for what you do, and if you did hold off it had to be pretty evident to you how there are risks of it not being released when you hoped for.

 

You can voice your opinion, it's fine, but when i see this thread now i'd personally actually rather want it to just be locked to actual development updates from hegykc. Because most of the discussion seems to be not of the products, and more on discussing how he will fail/not fail.

 

i don't want to discuss the same thing that's been going on for long over a year with little added criticism other than "he's not shown anything yet" or "im dissapointed by his delays" or "it's a scam" or similar. Actual production advice, ideas etc would be nicer. I understand you can be disappointed, but have you read the last 50 pages?

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[Shadow_1stVFW]

I think more than anything we want to SEE the products. I mean we SAW completed panels for the b17 and p51......but we haven't SEEN anything as far as a physical object for the head tracker or a do ready for testing CDU. I think once hegy actually shows pictures and video of working products in a TESTING STAGE the mood and atmosphere will change drastically. But for now most are upset because of the continued "delays" and pretty pictures. Frankly I'm in that group though I give my full support to hegy and his company.......

 

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Agreed, that's what I was saying.

 

I have absolutely nothing against an opinion, free speech. But there is a time and a place. If you had a set deal with some guy about a product and money was exchanged and nothing came. That is a real problem, but to be complaining on some sim enthusiast who is working towards selling sim equipment and who is still just working on it and hasn't made any real promises or taken money is in my opinion, a bit too much.

 

You decide to hold off your purchase of something else by this project, ok. that's your choice. he does not have any responsibility for what you do, and if you did hold off it had to be pretty evident to you how there are risks of it not being released when you hoped for.

 

You can voice your opinion, it's fine, but when i see this thread now i'd personally actually rather want it to just be locked to actual development updates from hegykc. Because most of the discussion seems to be not of the products, and more on discussing how he will fail/not fail.

 

i don't want to discuss the same thing that's been going on for long over a year with little added criticism other than "he's not shown anything yet" or "im dissapointed by his delays" or "it's a scam" or similar. Actual production advice, ideas etc would be nicer. I understand you can be disappointed, but have you read the last 50 pages?

 

And you're right, my choice not to purchase was my own, I acknowledged that. I disagree with your statement "not being released when you hoped for." in a general sense because sure, I hoped it was going to be released when he said it would. Which is kind of besides the point.

 

The part of what I said that you replied to I agree with you on. I've read all 153 pages of this thread, when it is on topic or off topic. And I'd also like to see a thread limited to product updates. But what we have is a thread for discussion. And I see where most everyone is coming from on most sides of all the issues. Either one, one person actually has the power to quickly change the conversation here, as discussed a few times now. Sounds like people would like to see more prototypes being worked on. I don't think that's an outlandish request. It's been voiced. So lets see what happens?

[Farlander]

Reasonable. I think stuff is actually happening now, we've seen some prototypes of CDU etc. seems promising.

 

I think we'll be seeing more prototypes in the future (i hope)

[mr_mojo97]

What a load of old crap that has been spoken over the last 4 pages. So what if he's not produced anything for the community yet. Why do you give such a toss? He'll release when he and it is ready. Meanwhile why not post about your progress? Why get so terribly excited about something then practically topping yourself when it's late? Christ, my 8 year old behaves better than that!! Call yourselves adults?

I agree, lock the forum to only Hegykc and admin. Posts like these previous ones are not constructive criticism, but slagging someone off because he didn't produce. Clearly you complainers have never been a sole manufacturer involved in everything including r&d. If his products are excellent, then he'll know when he gets feedback, likewise if they're not so good.

[hegykc]

If you don't like this, just don't follow it. No hard feelings. It couldn't be simpler. No one needs rescuing here, no one is getting scammed. And if there's no one rushing me maybe I'll make less mistakes of trying to get something out too soon. Come back when there's something to buy, and you can discuss/criticize/suggest products then, no grudges will be held against you or your money :)

 

In the mean time, I'll keep posting updates on the prototyping progress, for people who want to know the state of the project.

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[cichlidfan]

In the mean time, I'll keep posting updates on the prototyping progress, for people who want to know the state of the project.

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Indications of forward progress is all that most of us, including myself, are looking for.

[mrwell]

You all know what?, even if all will end in renders only (what I don't think so), even when the first product is release with three years from now (whi knows)... I don't care! Because I love to see Hegy's ideas, his renders make me dream and inspire me. And to dream is very important too. It keeps the illusion alive.

Cheers and don't let anyone take your hope and dreams, ANYONE!

[kolga]

...In the mean time, I'll keep posting updates on the prototyping progress, for people who want to know the state of the project.

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[Nash]

Both IRled/IRcamera and gyro/accelerometer/compass versions.

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Heg,

Could you please elaborate a bit on these different versions... What are the benefits of one over the other...And how much cost increase will it lead to ...:music_whistling:

 

Also some pictures please ... You haven't posted any pictures on the progress of the HeadTracker and I have been requesting them before...:noexpression:

[hansangb]

I guess one could take it as a compliment that people are so upset over the delays. It means people are emotionally attached to the project. That's a good thing. I am doubtful that you can meet the original goal of producing various grips at the price you wanted to sell it at. But that's just my opinion. This isn't a kickstarter, you never asked for anything up front, and you clearly have the passion.

 

I will continue to follow this thread, and for the time being will consider it no different than cockpit build thread. It's fun watching you prototype things.

 

I wish you the best of luck, and if and when it ships, people will either buy it or they won't.

 

I'm honestly baffled by all the negative posts bordering on vitriol. It's as if you took people's money.

 

I mean I waited 2 years for a wifi speaker on KickStarter. I saw WW II DCS module go down in flames - although ED picked it up. That delay can be measured in years. And in the above two cases, I *PAID* money.

[Postal2]

HI ? WHEN we can see the GRIP and Hotas F&_ compatible ?

 

 

merci .

[Adri]

hegkyc any update for the F18 grip for X55 Rhino?.

 

Regar.

[Nash]

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Originally Posted by hegykc

Both IRled/IRcamera and gyro/accelerometer/compass versions.

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Heg,

Could you please elaborate a bit on these different versions... What are the benefits of one over the other...And how much cost increase will it lead to ...

 

Also some pictures please ... You haven't posted any pictures on the progress of the HeadTracker and I have been requesting them before...:noexpression:

 

Hey Heg ,,, Any update yet??? :huh:

:noexpression::noexpression:

[NeilWillis]

Likewise Cichlidfan. Well said!

[Schmidtfire]

In my opinion, while there may be a lot of critics here... there is usually no smoke without a fire. When going public with projects like this, carefully packaged designs and plans and what not, people start to invest their time and energy, looking forward to get their hands on a finished result. I am not saying that it justifies any nasty comments, but I do understand that people get upset. Time and energy are also types of investment. With that said, I will consider buying some of the products if they go into production.

[The Black Swan]

Any updates? What be happenin'

[Nash]

Heg,

Could you please elaborate a bit on these different versions... What are the benefits of one over the other...And how much cost increase will it lead to ...:music_whistling:

 

Also some pictures please ... You haven't posted any pictures on the progress of the HeadTracker and I have been requesting them before...:noexpression:

 

Hey Heg ,,, Any update yet??? :huh:

:noexpression::noexpression:

 

Hegykc...

 

Its November already ... any updates on the above queries I had ???

:(:huh::noexpression:

[og_wolf]

Guys... chill out, assume it won't be available for purchase for at least 6-12 months. Maybe double or triple that time and then and only then consider wait for those grips. I recommend buying what you need for now elsewhere and when (I don't say if because I'm sure that Hegy will deliver) buy more stuff because it will be awesome.

But it doesn't make any sense to wait if you need a stick right now. Go for Warthog or Mamba or anything that is on the shelves. Nobody, including Hegy knows when this stuff will be available for purchase as it's in early design and pre-production stage.

[hegykc]

You will not have to wait a year. Because I cannot afford to delay the sales any longer. My savings I had allocated for this, is running out. The time to start selling is as soon as possible.

 

But I needed electronics in my mechanical designs, and I needed to program them. And that's what the last month or two were spent on. I'm going to show you a"render" but please keep in mind it's a completely developed solution. Schematics, board layout, components and physical dimension checking in my 3d cad software. But you will not have to wait for me to finish these electrial products, because I'll just use off the shelf arduinos for the very first batch of my sales.

 

All my electronic sim products will use interrupt based, event driven programming, unlike the Arduinos, dumb-busy-loops and spaghetti code in use in every hardware built on these forums at the moment. It is free and copy-paste code so I'm not trying to talk down again. I'm just trying to do better.

 

Here is a 40-bit I2C switch/LED driver with interrupt capability. 64 of these bad boys can be connected to 2 - 4 I2C channels on the 120/180 Mhz development board I'll be using, or my own MCU board I'll develop to drive my full simpits. That's a maximum of 10.240 switches or LEDs or any mix of the two. I have the same kind of driver fo analog axis, to drive up to 216 axis. Everything is interrupt driven, meaning none of the 10.000+ switches, or 200+ analog axis are talking to the microcontroller until you put your hand on them and change something. Also all of the 'drivers' are taking on the computing tasks and only sending ready-to-read results to the microcontroller. So not only will my MCU be dozens of times more powerfull then your average arduino, it will have to do dozens of times less work.

 

All of the electronics are also on the same protocol. Meaning you can plug your P-51 throttle into an F-14 engine panel. Or plug up to 4 full simpits on a single microcontroller. Future proof and compatible.

 

*again, you do not have to wait for me to finish these custom eletronics. I'll focus on getting the P-51 and Fw-190/Bf-109 throttles out with arduino electronics. The warthog spring mod and head tracking unit out. That is my No.1 priority as of today. I just had the oportunity to develop these now instead of in 2 years, and I took it. You'll be thanking me later.

 

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[myHelljumper]

Nice to hear from you, take your time, do it right :thumbup:

[HaArLiNsH]

Here is a 40-bit I2C switch/LED driver with interrupt capability. 64 of these bad boys can be connected to 2 - 4 I2C channels on the 120/180 Mhz development board I'll be using, or my own MCU board I'll develop to drive my full simpits. That's a maximum of 10.240 switches or LEDs or any mix of the two. I have the same kind of driver fo analog axis, to drive up to 216 axis. Everything is interrupt driven, meaning none of the 10.000+ switches, or 200+ analog axis are talking to the microcontroller until you put your hand on them and change something. Also all of the 'drivers' are taking on the computing tasks and only sending ready-to-read results to the microcontroller. So not only will my MCU be dozens of times more powerfull then your average arduino, it will have to do dozens of times less work.

 

All of the electronics are also on the same protocol. Meaning you can plug your P-51 throttle into an F-14 engine panel. Or plug up to 4 full simpits on a single microcontroller. Future proof and compatible.Save

 

 

This sounds WONDERFUL.

 

I have some questions based on this :

 

- Will you system and protocol be in open or close development? I mean, will it be possible to other people to make other stuff (engine panel, throttle, joystick, etc) and connect them to your system?

 

- As old planes are cool , new ones are (for me) even better, do you consider making F-35 grip and throttle one day?

 

 

Anyway, take your time to make things in the good way. I hope you the best :)

[Weasel]

Nice to hear from you, hegykc. I am very interested in your F-18 grips and also your other products for the F-18 as well as the CDU for the A-10C. Can't wait till you start selling :D

[aaron886]

Keep it coming!