Dave317 Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 (edited) Sometimes i'm finding the sim bogging down a bit to around 20fps when thre is a lot going on. I have an amd 955 quad core cpu overclocked to 3.82 ghz and an nvidia gtx 560ti. I can upgrade one or the other and would like to know which one to do first. Is it worth getting an octo core 4.2 ghz cpu or something like a gtx 660ti? Edited May 4, 2013 by Dave317 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cichlidfan Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 Your CPU is the problem. Unfortunately, the 955 is not going to be worth the upgrade and anything much better, as I am sure you realize, will require new memory and mobo. ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave317 Posted May 4, 2013 Author Share Posted May 4, 2013 Thank you. Is it worth going for an 8 core? Bigger the better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cichlidfan Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 Thank you. Is it worth going for an 8 core? Bigger the better? That depends on what you intend on doing with it. For DCS only, I would have to say no. However, if you plan to use the machine for other things then it may well be worth it. For DCS only, the best bang-for-buck, IMHO, would be an i5-3570k. It will overclock really well and won't break the bank. ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave317 Posted May 4, 2013 Author Share Posted May 4, 2013 It's not just for DCS, I use Arma 3 and CLOD a fair bit too. I've always stuck with AMD and haven't got a clue about intel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cichlidfan Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 It's not just for DCS, I use Arma 3 and CLOD a fair bit too. I've always stuck with AMD and haven't got a clue about intel. I am the opposite. I know next to nothing about AMD as I have never used (excepting before I got smart and switched to Nvidia). ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emenance Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 8 core bulldozer didn't get us anywhere did it? These games thrive on and just need 4 cores. An AMD 6 for example would do nothing to help. Look up some info about it. Generally gamers have stuck with 4 cores, the software is written for it. 6 and 8 cores cause other benefits. None for DCS. Asus P8Z68-V GEN3/ 2500k 4.4ghz / Corsair 64gb SSD Cache / Corsair 8g 1600 ddr3 / 2 x 320gb RE3 Raid 0 /Corsair 950w/ Zotac 560TI AMP 1gb / Zalman GS1200 case /G940/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emenance Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 It's not just for DCS, I use Arma 3 and CLOD a fair bit too. I've always stuck with AMD and haven't got a clue about intel. I hope AMD can continue Strong. For DCS you should go with an Intel build. I know it sucks, more money but its worth it. Im getting along just fine for my needs and my computer is 15 months old. i2500k and use a ssd cache drive and a p8z68 at least. FLYS! Asus P8Z68-V GEN3/ 2500k 4.4ghz / Corsair 64gb SSD Cache / Corsair 8g 1600 ddr3 / 2 x 320gb RE3 Raid 0 /Corsair 950w/ Zotac 560TI AMP 1gb / Zalman GS1200 case /G940/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave317 Posted May 4, 2013 Author Share Posted May 4, 2013 Ok what about putting in the best quad core I can use with my motherboard? It looks like it would be an AMD phenom 2 x 4 980 3.7 ghz. If I got the black edition I could overclock it to what 4.2 ish ghz. I'd rather not change the board, ram and cpu again. Would that be a good option? It would be alot cheaper too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkateZilla Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 Putting my affiliation w/ AMD aside; Intel i5 or above would be the best CPU for DCS Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave317 Posted May 5, 2013 Author Share Posted May 5, 2013 Is there any reason why I couldn't put my ddr3 ram in an intel motherboard? Looks like an i5 3570k is tyre way to go. Do motherboards make much difference? Is there certain ones I should go for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trooph Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Question is what ram u have. RAm shouldnt be an issue here. Faster is better for sure :) Ram in general is compatibile with all DDR3 mobos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave317 Posted May 6, 2013 Author Share Posted May 6, 2013 I have 2 sticks of Kingston KVR1333D3N9/4G 4GB 1333MHz DDR3 Non-ECC CL9 DIMM Any good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KennethBF Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 (edited) What type of motherboard do you have? Does it support you're DDR3 RAM at all? And You're RAM is not fast. Does you're mobo bus support higher MHz for RAM? As we speak I'm goeing from AMD socket to Intel Socket. My computer parts will arrive in a few days, no more AMD :P Edited May 7, 2013 by KennethBF Hardware: Mainboard: MSI Z77!-GD65 Gaming, Socket-1155 CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K, Quad Core, 3,5 GHz, 8MB RAM: Corsair Dominator DDR3 2133 MHz 2x4 GB GPU: MSI GeForce GTX 650Ti Boost 2GB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cedaway Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 (edited) Thank you. Is it worth going for an 8 core? Bigger the better? The Sim doesn't take in account more than 2 core. One for the Sim itself and one for the Sound Engine. So, a quad core is largely sufficient. (Because dual core isn't more sold, is it?) I have 2 sticks of Kingston KVR1333D3N9/4G 4GB 1333MHz DDR3 Non-ECC CL9 DIMM Any good? No problem with that. 8Gb is sufficient too. 1333MHz is in the norm. You don't need more. And i5 3570k is a good choice:thumbup: You'll not regret it. Now, if you want more, look for GPU replacement. 560 is a good card but I think it has 'made its time'. Edited May 7, 2013 by Cedaway DCS Wish: Turbulences affecting surrounding aircraft... [sIGPIC] [/sIGPIC] Gigabyte GA-Z170-HD3P - Intel Core i5 6600K - 16Gb RAM DDR4-2133 - Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1080 G1 Gaming - 8 Go - 2 x SSD Crucial MX300 - 750 Go RAID0 - Screens: HP OMEN 32'' 2560x1440 + Oculus Rift CV1 - Win 10 - 64bits - TM WARTHOG #889 - Saitek Pro Rudder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave317 Posted May 7, 2013 Author Share Posted May 7, 2013 I think i've decided on the i5 3570K but what motherboard to go for. The local shop tried to sell me a gigabyte one but i've had them before and wasn't that impressed they don't seem to be the easiest for overclocking either. I'm looking at Asus now but can't really tell if one is better than the other. Would something like this do the job? http://www.maplin.co.uk/asus-intel-p8h77-v-le-628888 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillaALF Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 If you want to overclock that 3570K (and that is pretty much the main reason to get the K-model), the motherboard should be based on the Z77 chipset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cichlidfan Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 If you want to overclock that 3570K (and that is pretty much the main reason to get the K-model), the motherboard should be based on the Z77 chipset. ASUS would be a good vendor to choose. Something like this should do nicely. http://www.amazon.com/ASUS-P8Z77-V-1155-Intel-Motherboard/dp/B007G51UWY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1367952893&sr=8-1&keywords=asus+motherboard+z77 ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave317 Posted May 7, 2013 Author Share Posted May 7, 2013 I'm glad you guys are helping, it's a partnumber minefield! Thanks for all your help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave317 Posted May 17, 2013 Author Share Posted May 17, 2013 Just though i'd check back in and say thanks for all your advise. I've got the I5 3570k and p8z77-v lx installed now with a decent heatsink and fan. It's so much better than the old amd 955 and even though they are both 4 core cpu's the stock (3.4 ghz) i5 is about double the speed of my 3.8 overclocked 955. I've overclocked it to 4.1 ghz but it doesn't seem to want to go any higher despite the multiplier being at 43. More research needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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