Azrayen Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 Years ago, I used with great pleasure an overlay tool (with FS9/IVAO), so I'm all for it. One concern, though: will it require the simulator to be set in fullscreen? I would rather not, if technically possible... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headspace Posted May 19, 2013 Author Share Posted May 19, 2013 No. It won't interfere with your settings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BlackDog601 Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 Great software, thank you. We discovered a bug or something like that. If a player eject he is able to hear and speak with all 3 radios (for FC3). Then when he switches to another plane he is still able to hear and speak with all 3 radios even without the radios are powered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flap Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 (edited) Great job, thank you Headspace. If someone has problem working of tars 1.0.2.4 after the first installation, because tars not running, close TS, uninstall Tars and delete tars cartel in this folder User/saved games/DCS/TARS and reinstall Tars a second time. The second installation will definitive run tars, this is necessary both server host and PC Player. This happened to my Squadron also with the previous version of software and with last version. Sorry for my bad english. Edited May 19, 2013 by flap [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron886 Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 (edited) Our team spent two hours to get TARS working for all of us tonight. For 5/6 of us, everything worked immediately... Beautiful! One person had problem after problem, but I think we've nailed it down to driver issues causing input recognition problems. In the brief time we spent testing, everything worked perfectly. Definitely a keeper for our group. Using FC3 style radios, signal attenuation for FM frequencies seemed a little underplayed perhaps, having no loss of quality at 35NM with both stations near ground level... What kind of output power is simulated for FC3? Yep. The problem is that it would require modifying aspects of the game that aren't Export-based. Making an overlay (which would have the same UI workflow as the radio menu) is a very similar solution. Are you referring to some flavor of DX hook? For stability reasons, I'm wary of those by default... I was referring to the use of native UI elements Edited May 19, 2013 by aaron886 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaman Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 (edited) This is awesome. I wish to invite everyone on <51>SERVER that hosts dedicated TARS channel on its own TS3 and encourages using at the same time both AI-comms and HUMAN-comms on same regulated traffic frequencies. Use it freely to test out your TARS setups. This way we can tell how many TARS users actually are active. I will maintain this channel for the TARS community and react to your requests. Enter our flight server through lobby or direct IP address: 51st.hopto.org Enter our TS3 via: 51st.hopto.org, and look for Server Lobby / TARS Edited May 19, 2013 by Shaman 51PVO Founding member (DEC2007-) 100KIAP Founding member (DEC2018-) :: Shaman aka [100☭] Shamansky tail# 44 or 444 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 100KIAP Regiment Early Warning & Control officer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAT_101st Posted May 19, 2013 Share Posted May 19, 2013 Thanks Shamandgg Home built PC Win 10 Pro 64bit, MB ASUS Z170 WS, 6700K, EVGA 1080Ti Hybrid, 32GB DDR4 3200, Thermaltake 120x360 RAD, Custom built A-10C sim pit, TM WARTHOG HOTAS, Cougar MFD's, 3D printed UFC and Saitek rudders. HTC VIVE VR. https://digitalcombatmercenaries.enjin.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headspace Posted May 19, 2013 Author Share Posted May 19, 2013 Our team spent two hours to get TARS working for all of us tonight. For 5/6 of us, everything worked immediately... Beautiful! One person had problem after problem, but I think we've nailed it down to driver issues causing input recognition problems. In the brief time we spent testing, everything worked perfectly. Definitely a keeper for our group. Using FC3 style radios, signal attenuation for FM frequencies seemed a little underplayed perhaps, having no loss of quality at 35NM with both stations near ground level... What kind of output power is simulated for FC3? The output power is probably a little too high at this point. I'm focusing on a better radio simulation over the summer, but obviously more time went into the AM side of things than the FM side originally which is probably why you're seeing what you're seeing. Are you referring to some flavor of DX hook? For stability reasons, I'm wary of those by default... I was referring to the use of native UI elements Yes but it's easier to make a DX hook for one game that works than it is to make a DX hook for any and all games that use DX (i.e. Fraps). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaman Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 Hi, As squad we have a kind request regarding TARS functionality. We wish to regain ability to whisper to TS3 channels with no-plugin users (while we are flying with plug-in) and be able to hear whispered response to TARS channel, while using TARS logic with TARS users on the same "TARS" named channel. Please advice if there is a workaround. 51PVO Founding member (DEC2007-) 100KIAP Founding member (DEC2018-) :: Shaman aka [100☭] Shamansky tail# 44 or 444 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 100KIAP Regiment Early Warning & Control officer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chazz Ulric Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 Hey I Just D/L the Latest ver of TARS "Thanks Headspace". Problem I am having is in the control panel under games. Tars is pointing to my config path for DCS under "user saved games then DCS which has my config file. I click install and it turns green saying TARS installed but it also says my game is not installed. it reads like this in the control panel. DCS: World Game not Found (Tars installed) and it is all in green . I checked all the paths in game and everything appears to be in the right spot like export Lua and Tars folder etc etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headspace Posted May 21, 2013 Author Share Posted May 21, 2013 Hey I Just D/L the Latest ver of TARS "Thanks Headspace". Problem I am having is in the control panel under games. Tars is pointing to my config path for DCS under "user saved games then DCS which has my config file. I click install and it turns green saying TARS installed but it also says my game is not installed. it reads like this in the control panel. DCS: World Game not Found (Tars installed) and it is all in green . I checked all the paths in game and everything appears to be in the right spot like export Lua and Tars folder etc etc Chazz: My guess is that it can't get to the Eagle Dynamics install folder to check the version of DCS--that's what would produce that message. If TARS is working fine then you don't need to do anything. See what it says when you run it as Administrator. The CP has some features that worked well for standalone installs like Black Shark and A-10 Warthog but have become redundant for DCS World. It may be time to prune it down a little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chazz Ulric Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 Ran it in Admin Mode and the messg is the same. Just to be clear this is my path for the Tars install C:\Users\C360\Saved Games\DCS that is how it should look, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headspace Posted May 21, 2013 Author Share Posted May 21, 2013 Ran it in Admin Mode and the messg is the same. Just to be clear this is my path for the Tars install C:\Users\C360\Saved Games\DCS that is how it should look, right? That's correct. You should be good to go. Further questions please bring to the TARS thread in the DCS mods forum. Let me know (in that thread, if you could) if you are running in 32 bit mode. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sokolus Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 Can somebody explain step by step how to use TARS in communication between A-10C and UH-1 ? We are flying in our squad on A-10C, but I have a Huey, and I want to communicate with A-10C. I have my TARS PTT buttons bind with my HOTAS Warthog throttle: Radio 1: Mic switch down (A-10C UHF) Radio 2: Mic switch forward (A-10C VHF AM) Radio 3: Mic switch back (A-10C VHF FM) Should i use this three buttons in UH-1 or use Radio ICS Switch, which is located on the cyclic stick? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sorcer3r Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 Can somebody explain step by step how to use TARS in communication between A-10C and UH-1 ? We are flying in our squad on A-10C, but I have a Huey, and I want to communicate with A-10C. I have my TARS PTT buttons bind with my HOTAS Warthog throttle: Radio 1: Mic switch down (A-10C UHF) Radio 2: Mic switch forward (A-10C VHF AM) Radio 3: Mic switch back (A-10C VHF FM) Should i use this three buttons in UH-1 or use Radio ICS Switch, which is located on the cyclic stick? You have to select your radio there (and then use PTT or voice activation): [sIGPIC]http://i1293.photobucket.com/albums/b582/sorcerer17/sorcf16-b_zpsycmnwuay.gif[/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headspace Posted May 21, 2013 Author Share Posted May 21, 2013 Here's the thing, guys. Different aircraft have different intercom systems. We can't just say that multi-PTT will be universal, or that using an intercom switch will be. So there have to be different ways of doing it and that's why the different intercoms are modeled the way they are. I also realize the TARS documentation is quite old at this point and we will be putting together some new documentation along with the new iteration of TARS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
92nd-MajorBug Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 Awesome news, thanks a lot :) 92nd Kodiak Air Force - May the Greuh be with you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sokolus Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 Ok, works fine between A-10C and UH-1, but what to do, to communicate with human JTAC or Ground Force Commander ? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headspace Posted May 21, 2013 Author Share Posted May 21, 2013 We're working on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron886 Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 The output power is probably a little too high at this point. I'm focusing on a better radio simulation over the summer, but obviously more time went into the AM side of things than the FM side originally which is probably why you're seeing what you're seeing. Yes but it's easier to make a DX hook for one game that works than it is to make a DX hook for any and all games that use DX (i.e. Fraps). Fair enough! Thanks again for your hard work, I actually look forward to checking in on the radios now thanks to TARS. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headspace Posted May 22, 2013 Author Share Posted May 22, 2013 Much appreciated. Any and all input/suggestions/etc as well--feel free to contact me with any of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfK33 Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 I installed Tars yesterday and flew a bit with a buddy in the Huey. This is so awesome ! Didn't even know before that audio from different radios comes from different "directions", we were amazed ! Just a pity that in the Huey (don't know about the other birds) they didn't build in a warning light or anything when your radios are shot up, you just wonder why nobody talks to you anymore ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaiza Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 Flew a training mission last night with A-10s/Hokums/Hueys and the odd su27 using TARS with a tower and ground controller. Had an absolute blast. Keep up the great work Headspace, TARS is very much appreciated. [url=http://www.aef-hq.com.au/aef4/forumdisplay.php?262-Digital-Combat-Simulator][SIGPIC]http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/2500/a10161sqnsignitureedite.png[/SIGPIC][/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaman Posted June 1, 2013 Share Posted June 1, 2013 It seems TARS no longer works only on our <51>SERVER. Although my touch-panel with dials and switches (HELIOS) works fine, and it uses exports too. Can you quickly point me what is going on so I make sure our admin adjust file configs? Once this is fixed lets plan some TARS fly-in event, wanna? 51PVO Founding member (DEC2007-) 100KIAP Founding member (DEC2018-) :: Shaman aka [100☭] Shamansky tail# 44 or 444 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 100KIAP Regiment Early Warning & Control officer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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